Line Spkr StTime Content EnTime 1 VLD_int_01 1.3433 What's your birthday? 2.0334 2 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2.5137 Ten, ten 3.4976 3 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 3.4976 (pause 0.33) 3.8286 4 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 3.8286 sixty-one. 4.5794 5 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 4.5794 (pause 2.74) 7.3153 6 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 7.3153 How many people you done did this? 8.5324 7 VLD_int_01 9.0686 9.2738 8 VLD_int_01 9.2738 (pause 0.37) 9.6468 9 VLD_int_01 9.6468 Um. From Valdosta? 11.0503 10 VLD_int_01 11.0503 (pause 0.82) 11.8710 11 VLD_int_01 11.8710 Uh. 13.4552 12 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 13.7630 Take too long? 14.5087 13 VLD_int_01 14.4773 About ten. 15.1289 14 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 15.2967 Okay. 15.7670 15 VLD_int_01 15.8983 Yeah, so I've done a lot. Mm-hm. 17.3298 16 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 17.3438 Alright. 17.8940 17 VLD_int_01 17.8940 So, I'm doing it in Valdosta and in DC. 19.6834 18 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 20.3688 Wow. 20.7465 19 VLD_int_01 20.7465 Mm-hm. 21.1093 20 VLD_int_01 21.1093 (pause 0.13) 21.2361 21 VLD_int_01 21.2361 And how old are you Mr. /RD-NAME-1/? 22.7469 22 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 22.8215 Fifty-seven. 23.7313 23 VLD_int_01 29.4487 What are you doing here- Okay. Okay. 31.3207 24 VLD_int_01 31.3207 (pause 0.35) 31.6704 25 VLD_int_01 31.6704 And where were you born? 32.5097 26 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 33.8167 L- uh, Valdosta. 35.0043 27 VLD_int_01 35.0232 You were born in [Valdosta?] 35.8518 28 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 35.7366 [Lowndes.] 36.3241 29 VLD_int_01 37.6950 In South Georgia. 38.3385 30 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 39.0039 Nope. 39.3117 31 VLD_int_01 39.8339 Where? 40.0811 32 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 40.9752 Hudson Docket. 41.6327 33 VLD_int_01 42.2248 Oh, you were born at home. 43.4559 34 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 43.6330 Mm-hm. 43.9589 35 VLD_int_01 43.9455 Mm-hm. 44.4211 36 VLD_int_01 45.0552 Um, what neighborhood do you claim? 46.6080 37 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 48.0051 South side. 48.7045 38 VLD_int_01 48.7045 You s- south side? 49.7677 39 VLD_int_01 49.7677 (pause 3.62) 53.3907 40 VLD_int_01 53.3907 How long have you lived in Valdosta? 54.6066 41 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 56.0428 Off and on? 56.7422 42 VLD_int_01 57.6655 Mm-hm. 58.0105 43 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 59.0084 Mm. 59.3581 44 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 59.3581 (pause 4.53) 63.8840 45 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 63.8840 It's hard to say, cause I've been 66.0014 46 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 66.0014 (pause 0.27) 66.2718 47 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 66.2718 traveling a lot. 66.9759 48 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 66.9759 (pause 1.20) 68.1790 49 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 68.1790 And shoot, I stay maybe sometime maybe five year, ten year 72.0946 50 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 72.0946 (pause 0.86) 72.9573 51 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 72.9573 leave, come back. 74.1183 52 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 74.1183 (pause 0.44) 74.5613 53 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 74.5613 Uh. 74.8822 54 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 74.8822 (pause 0.94) 75.8260 55 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 75.8260 So, I [wen-] 76.3286 56 VLD_int_01 75.9322 [But], most of your life have you been? 77.3115 57 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 78.1217 Uh. Yeah. 78.6626 58 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 78.6626 (pause 0.15) 78.8119 59 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 78.8119 Most of my life. 79.4880 60 VLD_int_01 79.7258 So, where are some other places that you've lived? 81.5848 61 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 81.9500 I lived in 82.8546 62 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 82.8546 (pause 0.98) 83.8338 63 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 83.8338 Maryl- Laurel, Maryland. 85.3761 64 VLD_int_01 85.6605 Oh, that's where I live right now. 87.1946 65 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 87.4371 Mm-hm. 88.2904 66 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 88.2904 (pause 0.91) 89.2043 67 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 89.2043 I've lived in Orlando. 90.6300 68 VLD_int_01 93.3028 Mm-hm. 93.6572 69 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 94.5151 I lived in Tampa. 95.7182 70 VLD_int_01 98.2805 Mm-hm. 98.6256 71 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 98.9053 St. Petersburg. 100.0990 72 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 100.0990 (pause 1.52) 101.6145 73 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 101.6145 Hm. 101.8942 74 VLD_int_01 102.2160 Virginia or Florida? 103.2733 75 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 104.8913 Florida. 105.3250 76 VLD_int_01 106.0990 Mm-hm. 106.4674 77 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 107.2787 Virginia Beach, /Virgingia/. 108.6217 78 VLD_int_01 108.7336 Oh. 109.1113 79 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 109.4179 [] 110.5047 80 VLD_int_01 110.3038 [You] have moved around. Were you in the military? 112.2063 81 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 112.4767 No. 112.8078 82 VLD_int_01 112.9850 No. You just moved around a lot? 114.3372 83 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 114.6263 Yeah. 115.1159 84 VLD_int_01 116.3458 Virginia Beach. Uh-huh. 117.3385 85 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 118.1876 W- And New York. 119.2368 86 VLD_int_01 119.5667 And New York. New York City? 120.6538 87 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 121.5957 Uh-huh. 122.0200 88 VLD_int_01 122.9001 Look at [you.] 123.7395 89 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 123.5809 [I was] in Brooklyn. It's somewhere- [uh-huh, yeah.] 126.1315 90 VLD_int_01 125.2275 [Uh, Brooklyn?] 125.7865 91 VLD_int_01 126.9289 Alright. Where'd you go to high school? 128.3313 92 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 128.9048 /RD-SCHOOL-4/. 129.9885 93 VLD_int_01 130.9332 [Wildcat.] 131.8704 94 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 131.0078 [Um.] 131.3855 95 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 131.9450 Marching cat. 132.7097 96 VLD_int_01 133.5957 Oh, what'd you play? 134.5490 97 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 134.6936 Trumpet 135.1506 98 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 135.1506 (pause 0.39) 135.5422 99 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 135.5422 and tuba. 136.1204 100 VLD_int_01 137.0577 [Oh.] 138.3837 101 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 137.6965 [A- and-] and a- in the concert season, I played the French horn. 140.7818 102 VLD_int_01 141.6305 Okay. I'm'a ask you about that. 143.4583 103 VLD_int_01 143.4583 (pause 0.15) 143.6122 104 VLD_int_01 143.6122 Cause I was in the band. [What do you] do? 145.3503 105 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 144.6322 [Okay.] 145.0799 106 VLD_int_01 145.9985 What's your occupation? 146.9077 107 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 148.1807 Um. 148.9827 108 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 148.9827 (pause 1.50) 150.4877 109 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 150.4877 I'm disabled. 151.1918 110 VLD_int_01 152.3622 But you're also the little. You like to do the little. 154.6488 111 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 155.0433 I like doing plumbing [though.] 156.2249 112 VLD_int_01 156.0057 [Mm-hm.] 156.6445 113 VLD_int_01 160.0147 That's your little, 160.7281 114 VLD_int_01 160.7281 (pause 0.54) 161.2643 115 VLD_int_01 161.2643 you like to do it as a hobby? 162.3788 116 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 162.8917 Yeah. 163.1153 117 VLD_int_01 163.3391 Yeah. 163.5583 118 VLD_int_01 163.5583 (pause 1.04) 164.5934 119 VLD_int_01 164.5934 Um. Where was your father born? 166.3420 120 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 167.4248 167.4936 121 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 167.4936 (pause 0.24) 167.7362 122 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 167.7362 Here. Valdosta. 168.6688 123 VLD_int_01 168.6688 Valdosta. 169.1864 124 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 169.3682 Mm-hm. 169.8066 125 VLD_int_01 169.8800 What about your mama? 170.6214 126 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 171.4701 Hm? 171.6985 127 VLD_int_01 172.0343 Your mama was also born in Valdosta? 173.1813 128 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 173.2653 Uh-huh. 173.6476 129 VLD_int_01 177.7685 What did your father do? 178.5752 130 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 179.9740 Uh. He's disabled too now, but he used to mix paint. 182.9245 131 VLD_int_01 183.0784 Oh. He used to mix paint? 184.0249 132 VLD_int_01 184.0249 (pause 2.01) 186.0300 133 VLD_int_01 186.0300 And what did mom do? 186.7900 134 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 187.6061 Housewife. 188.3090 135 VLD_int_01 200.4633 Oh, those wind-chimes are loud. 202.4730 136 VLD_int_01 202.4730 (pause 2.97) 205.4394 137 VLD_int_01 205.4394 Okay. 205.8964 138 VLD_int_01 205.8964 (pause 0.88) 206.7730 139 VLD_int_01 206.7730 So, tell me about. I'm gonna close the door just cause the wind-chimes are a little loud. Hopefully that'll cut some of it. 212.5398 140 VLD_int_01 212.5398 (pause 5.17) 217.7098 141 VLD_int_01 217.7098 Mm. Not really. 218.5958 142 VLD_int_01 218.5958 (pause 0.69) 219.2812 143 VLD_int_01 219.2812 So, tell me a little bit about 220.6929 144 VLD_int_01 220.6929 (pause 1.02) 221.7095 145 VLD_int_01 221.7095 your childhood home. 223.0990 146 VLD_int_01 223.0990 (pause 0.88) 223.9756 147 VLD_int_01 223.9756 That was Hudson Docket? 225.0341 148 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 225.7662 No. Well, uh. W- Actually, 227.5423 149 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 227.5423 (pause 0.91) 228.4562 150 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 228.4562 when I was born, I was born in Hudson Docket. 231.0773 151 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 231.0773 (pause 0.47) 231.5438 152 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 231.5438 /Well man/, my 232.5368 153 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 232.5368 (pause 0.14) 232.6720 154 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 232.6720 parents 233.2969 155 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 233.2969 (pause 1.32) 234.6209 156 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 234.6209 lost some- lost a kid. So, 236.3648 157 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 236.3648 (pause 0.80) 237.1622 158 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 237.1622 my mother, 237.8477 159 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 237.8477 (pause 0.23) 238.0761 160 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 238.0761 okay. My 238.5937 161 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 238.5937 (pause 0.41) 239.0041 162 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 239.0041 biological parents, 240.4142 163 VLD_int_01 240.5495 Mm-hm. 240.8572 164 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 242.4927 uh, she couldn't have me out there in Hudson Docket. 245.1553 165 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 245.1553 (pause 2.16) 247.3142 166 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 247.3142 And I think I got them right. Biological is what? The, [uh-] 250.2460 167 VLD_int_01 249.8939 [Mm-hm.] 250.1247 168 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 250.5025 Which parents are that? That's the one that 251.8733 169 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 251.8733 (pause 0.73) 252.6054 170 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 252.6054 birthed me? 253.1044 171 VLD_int_01 253.1044 Bi- birthed y- mm-hm. 253.9204 172 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 254.0638 Okay. 254.3295 173 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 254.3295 (pause 0.30) 254.6326 174 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 254.6326 Yeah. She couldn't have me out there in- 255.9849 175 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 255.9849 (pause 0.13) 256.1108 176 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 256.1108 in Hudson Docket. So, and then my 257.6728 177 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 257.6728 (pause 0.52) 258.1904 178 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 258.1904 adopted parent, 259.0251 179 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 259.0251 (pause 0.80) 259.8271 180 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 259.8271 they had just lost some ki- 260.9450 181 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 260.9450 (pause 0.25) 261.1968 182 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 261.1968 a ch- a child, 262.1387 183 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 262.1387 (pause 0.57) 262.7096 184 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 262.7096 and so my mom still 264.2510 185 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 264.2510 (pause 0.56) 264.8153 186 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 264.8153 breast fed, you know, 265.8924 187 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 265.8924 (pause 0.23) 266.1255 188 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 266.1255 fi- for the milk. 267.0011 189 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 267.0011 (pause 0.59) 267.5933 190 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 267.5933 And they was all friends, so 268.9362 191 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 268.9362 (pause 0.46) 269.3931 192 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 269.3931 they adopted me. 270.0599 193 VLD_int_01 270.7081 Hm. 271.0018 194 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 271.2117 So, they go- had got me. I didn't find out about until way- tw- when I was twenty-one. But, anyway. 275.3605 195 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 275.3605 (pause 0.97) 276.3257 196 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 276.3257 I was raised in a good family. 277.4914 197 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 277.4914 (pause 1.36) 278.8530 198 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 278.8530 And they came and picked me up from Hudson Docket, and 281.4118 199 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 281.4118 (pause 0.48) 281.8874 200 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 281.8874 I was raised on /RD-ADDRESS-2/ Street, 283.3702 201 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 283.3702 (pause 0.86) 284.2282 202 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 284.2282 over there in Little Miami. 285.1668 203 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 285.1668 (pause 1.47) 286.6377 204 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 286.6377 South Side. 287.3232 205 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 287.3232 (pause 1.32) 288.6475 206 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 288.6475 And I was raised in a good family. So. 290.6618 207 VLD_int_01 292.5491 Tell me about your house. 293.5517 208 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 293.9294 No- 294.3304 209 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 294.3304 (pause 0.43) 294.7594 210 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 294.7594 [Well.] 295.0307 211 VLD_int_01 294.7594 [If you] remember it. 295.4401 212 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 295.7013 Dad was in the military. 296.9801 213 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 296.9801 (pause 1.53) 298.5065 214 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 298.5065 And we did a lot of traveling. 300.0972 215 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 300.0972 (pause 0.33) 300.4283 216 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 300.4283 when I was small, so. But the house. 302.3727 217 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 302.3727 (pause 0.37) 302.7458 218 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 302.7458 The house is nice, i- w- we had- I had my own room. 305.6916 219 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 305.6916 (pause 1.04) 306.7360 220 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 306.7360 And then after /there/- mama done had me and I was coming up, she started having kids. 310.6750 221 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 310.6750 (pause 1.42) 312.0972 222 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 312.0972 And so the house was nice 313.4541 223 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 313.4541 (pause 0.50) 313.9531 224 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 313.9531 three be- two bedroom. 315.2715 225 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 315.2715 (pause 1.12) 316.3906 226 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 316.3906 We added onto it later on, so. 318.5262 227 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 318.5262 (pause 0.88) 319.4075 228 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 319.4075 It was nice. I had a nice childhood. 320.9416 229 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 320.9416 (pause 0.59) 321.5326 230 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 321.5326 I was blessed. 322.3253 231 VLD_int_01 322.3673 Were there a lot of kids in the neighborhood? 323.7568 232 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 324.0879 Oh yeah. 324.7687 233 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 324.7687 (pause 0.14) 324.9132 234 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 324.9132 Yeah, we had plenty kids. We- we always had the street. 327.5034 235 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 327.5034 (pause 0.55) 328.0494 236 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 328.0494 It was just the neighborhood was just so nice that you could go to bed with the d- with the doors open at night. 331.9383 237 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 331.9383 (pause 0.89) 332.8277 238 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 332.8277 And the kids would all play together, 334.5716 239 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 334.5716 (pause 0.61) 335.1825 240 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 335.1825 everybody stuck together. South side. 337.0476 241 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 337.0476 (pause 0.62) 337.6725 242 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 337.6725 Little Miami. 338.3428 243 VLD_int_01 338.9536 Why is it called Little Miami? 340.0401 244 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 340.7162 Because it was just, uh, 342.4601 245 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 342.4601 (pause 0.22) 342.6793 246 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 342.6793 the history is the like, 343.8566 247 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 343.8566 (pause 0.48) 344.3381 248 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 344.3381 Miami was so nice back then. 346.1753 249 VLD_int_01 346.2732 Mm-hm. 346.6183 250 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 347.0146 And 347.5322 251 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 347.5322 (pause 0.20) 347.7327 252 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 347.7327 our neighborhood was just real nice, like Miami was just 349.9196 253 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 349.9196 (pause 0.46) 350.3754 254 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 350.3754 laid back, cool back then, of course, it's crazy now. But, 353.2011 255 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 353.2011 (pause 0.67) 353.8726 256 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 353.8726 back then, they just called it Little Miami. 355.4953 257 VLD_int_01 355.5559 Now, where is this? Like I don't- 356.9256 258 VLD_int_01 356.9256 (pause 0.09) 357.0142 259 VLD_int_01 357.0142 I don't know the n- I- I've never heard. So, I don't know the neighborhood. [Where, what part] and area? 361.0989 260 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 359.7280 [It's on-] 360.3109 261 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 361.2155 On the south side of town, by, they called it, 363.4339 262 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 363.4339 (pause 0.25) 363.6857 263 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 363.6857 the club used to be Fifth Inn, 365.1125 264 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 365.1125 (pause 1.25) 366.3622 265 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 366.3622 and 366.9544 266 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 366.9544 (pause 0.33) 367.2808 267 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 367.2808 uh, 367.6678 268 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 367.6678 (pause 0.14) 367.8077 269 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 367.8077 Lake Park Road. 368.9256 270 VLD_int_01 368.9256 Mm-hm. 369.3406 271 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 369.4432 Yeah, li- down that way, going towards the school, uh, 372.4928 272 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 372.4928 (pause 1.18) 373.6760 273 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 373.6760 Uh, south side- uh, Southeast Elementary, over in that way. 376.3758 274 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 376.3758 (pause 1.61) 377.9845 275 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 377.9845 So, it's on that side of town. 379.4160 276 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 379.4160 (pause 0.25) 379.6678 277 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 379.6678 Okay. 380.0595 278 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 380.0595 (pause 1.73) 381.7929 279 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 381.7929 And what is that? Troup Street? 383.3084 280 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 383.3084 (pause 1.12) 384.4275 281 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 384.4275 Or /wrong/ side- 385.5792 282 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 385.5792 (pause 0.54) 386.1190 283 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 386.1190 Church's? 386.8277 284 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 386.8277 (pause 1.25) 388.0774 285 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 388.0774 Yeah. 388.3758 286 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 388.3758 (pause 0.74) 389.1172 287 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 389.1172 It's 389.3270 288 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 389.3270 (pause 0.12) 389.4436 289 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 389.4436 Troup Street. It runs down to the south, to the old 392.2621 290 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 392.2621 (pause 1.43) 393.6884 291 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 393.6884 Lomax Pine Middle School. 395.1474 292 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 395.1474 (pause 0.21) 395.3572 293 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 395.3572 That area was Little Miami. 397.1058 294 VLD_int_01 397.1493 Mm-hm. 397.4278 295 VLD_int_01 397.4278 (pause 0.14) 397.5628 296 VLD_int_01 397.5628 Okay. 397.9778 297 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 398.6567 Alright. 399.0437 298 VLD_int_01 399.4307 Like where Harrington's is? The funeral home and stuff? 401.6410 299 VLD_int_01 401.6410 (pause 0.56) 402.2052 300 VLD_int_01 402.2052 Or past that? 402.7647 301 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 402.7694 It's past that. 403.7159 302 VLD_int_01 403.7159 Past that. Okay. 404.3516 303 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 404.4340 Come on down. Yeah. Yeah. 405.5660 304 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 405.5660 (pause 0.15) 405.7198 305 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 405.7198 In that area 406.5778 306 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 406.5778 (pause 0.81) 407.3892 307 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 407.3892 to Forty-one. 408.2993 308 VLD_int_01 408.4896 Mm-hm. 408.8486 309 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 410.4713 And Eighty-four, yeah. 411.6825 310 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 411.6825 (pause 0.19) 411.8691 311 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 411.8691 Coming up in that area, where the tobacco warehouses used to be. 414.1912 312 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 414.1912 (pause 0.21) 414.4003 313 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 414.4003 Excuse me. 414.8813 314 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 414.8813 (pause 0.33) 415.2123 315 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 415.2123 All up in there. 415.8791 316 VLD_int_01 416.9843 So, tell me what you used 418.1162 317 VLD_int_01 418.1162 (pause 0.15) 418.2654 318 VLD_int_01 418.2654 di- 418.4426 319 VLD_int_01 418.4426 (pause 0.20) 418.6384 320 VLD_int_01 418.6384 y'all were always ou- did you stay outside, right? 420.4803 321 VLD_int_01 420.4803 (pause 0.10) 420.5782 322 VLD_int_01 420.5782 Like when you were [young, you had to play outside.] 422.4527 323 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 421.1937 [Oh yeah.] 422.1501 324 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 422.7587 Yes, yes. Lord, [yes.] 424.1995 325 VLD_int_01 423.8405 [What'd] y'all do outside? 424.8290 326 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 424.9596 Uh, we got to school. When we get out of school, you come home. 427.8552 327 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 427.8552 (pause 1.50) 429.3555 328 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 429.3555 And 429.8358 329 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 429.8358 (pause 0.21) 430.0410 330 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 430.0410 you got your homework, do what you have- got to do, and then you go 432.6522 331 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 432.6522 (pause 0.78) 433.4309 332 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 433.4309 outside with the other fellas and stuff and- 435.2832 333 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 435.2832 (pause 0.37) 435.6563 334 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 435.6563 oh man, we had a- 436.6588 335 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 436.6588 (pause 0.32) 436.9759 336 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 436.9759 we- we was like, 437.9131 337 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 437.9131 (pause 1.22) 439.1348 338 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 439.1348 we'd go out there, we had a little 440.4579 339 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 440.4579 (pause 0.40) 440.8542 340 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 440.8542 wooded area, we called it little jungle. 442.6401 341 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 442.6401 (pause 1.21) 443.8525 342 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 443.8525 And we used to make bow and arrows, 445.5498 343 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 445.5498 (pause 0.64) 446.1886 344 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 446.1886 sling shots, 447.4034 345 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 447.4034 (pause 0.86) 448.2660 346 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 448.2660 man, we had a nice childhood. We- we- like, if we was in the wilderness, 451.4321 347 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 451.4321 (pause 0.39) 451.8256 348 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 451.8256 we were gonna survive. 452.7768 349 VLD_int_01 453.3410 [] 455.1044 350 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 453.9480 [I'm serious. We-] 454.9085 351 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 455.2862 we went fishing (laughing) 456.3167 352 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 456.3167 (pause 0.07) 456.3913 353 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 456.3913 in the canal, caught- and caught fish. 458.4150 354 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 458.4150 (pause 1.23) 459.6402 355 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 459.6402 And so, and then after that, when it start getting dark, you know, then you- 462.8017 356 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 462.8017 (pause 0.37) 463.1747 357 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 463.1747 Your parent, you can hear your parent, you can smell the food. They already cooking the stuff, when they're getting ready for us to come in and bathe and all this and eat. 468.4146 358 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 468.4146 (pause 0.99) 469.4078 359 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 469.4078 And if it getting too late, you can hear them. They come out the door, they'll call out your name. 472.3396 360 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 472.3396 (pause 0.79) 473.1277 361 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 473.1277 /RD-NAME-2/! 474.0742 362 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 474.0742 (pause 0.88) 474.9509 363 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 474.9509 /RD-NAME-1/! 475.7202 364 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 475.7202 (pause 0.48) 476.2005 365 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 476.2005 Y'all come home. (laughing) 477.4729 366 VLD_int_01 477.5059 Mm. 477.6861 367 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 478.8162 And we come out the woods, go home, and- and shoot. 481.3342 368 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 481.3342 (pause 0.89) 482.2201 369 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 482.2201 And go home, bathe up, eat and 483.7262 370 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 483.7262 (pause 0.14) 483.8708 371 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 483.8708 get ready for school the next day. 484.9841 372 VLD_int_01 485.4458 So, you said they started having kids, so you have some brothers and sisters? 488.6743 373 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 488.8888 Oh yeah. 489.2991 374 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 489.2991 (pause 0.15) 489.4530 375 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 489.4530 I got, 489.8820 376 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 489.8820 (pause 0.16) 490.0405 377 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 490.0405 uh, 490.3995 378 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 490.3995 (pause 1.15) 491.5513 379 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 491.5513 four brothers and two sisters. 492.8058 380 VLD_int_01 493.3354 But you're the oldest? 494.2073 381 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 494.3239 I am the oldest. 495.1166 382 VLD_int_01 495.6761 Um. 496.3091 383 VLD_int_01 496.3091 (pause 0.33) 496.6355 384 VLD_int_01 496.6355 So, what it- was it like being the oldest? Did you have to babysit? Did you have to- 500.5617 385 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 501.6151 Well, we all took care of each other. 503.2930 386 VLD_int_01 503.2604 [Mm.] 503.5588 387 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 503.4282 [Yeah.] 503.8106 388 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 504.3188 Um, mama, like I said, she was a house wife. 506.1933 389 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 506.1933 (pause 0.63) 506.8275 390 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 506.8275 So, basically, she took care of everything, but 509.1485 391 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 509.1485 (pause 1.08) 510.2256 392 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 510.2256 we all just 510.9064 393 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 510.9064 (pause 0.14) 511.0509 394 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 511.0509 we- we all got together. 512.4218 395 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 512.4218 (pause 0.74) 513.1632 396 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 513.1632 I remember this time when, um, 514.5544 397 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 514.5544 (pause 0.41) 514.9625 398 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 514.9625 I think, okay. 515.7360 399 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 515.7360 (pause 0.62) 516.3554 400 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 516.3554 516.4583 401 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 516.4583 (pause 0.19) 516.6469 402 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 516.6469 We was all on the sofa cause dad used to like to take 518.6410 403 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 518.6410 (pause 0.20) 518.8392 404 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 518.8392 pictures of everything. 519.9863 405 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 519.9863 (pause 1.17) 521.1548 406 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 521.1548 And, well we all had done fell asleep on the sofa and but and people had legs over somebody neck and somebody limb on their lap and this and that it was all. I think it was about 528.8721 407 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 528.8721 (pause 0.91) 529.7826 408 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 529.7826 four of us then. 530.7694 409 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 530.7694 (pause 1.11) 531.8838 410 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 531.8838 And everybody's on the sofa asleep 533.3852 411 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 533.3852 (pause 0.30) 533.6885 412 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 533.6885 in a- all together. 534.7001 413 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 534.7001 (pause 1.55) 536.2471 414 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 536.2471 And 536.8813 415 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 536.8813 (pause 0.21) 537.0911 416 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 537.0911 we ha- we came up in a good family, like I say. 539.3151 417 VLD_int_01 539.7723 So, tell me about school. Where'd you start elementary school? 542.4849 418 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 542.7227 /RD-NAME-6/ 543.9419 419 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 543.9419 (pause 0.66) 544.5994 420 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 544.5994 I went to kindergarten first. 546.0158 421 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 546.0158 (pause 1.54) 547.5545 422 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 547.5545 Um. 548.1514 423 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 548.1514 (pause 0.67) 548.8228 424 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 548.8228 Kindergarten was 550.0305 425 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 550.0305 (pause 0.11) 550.1424 426 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 550.1424 Ms./RD-NAME-3/. 551.1345 427 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 551.1345 (pause 1.17) 552.3049 428 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 552.3049 Well, that lady, she was- she taught us how to do the ABC's and 555.7274 429 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 555.7274 (pause 0.62) 556.3476 430 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 556.3476 One, Two, Three's and all of that. And 557.9761 431 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 557.9761 (pause 0.98) 558.9530 432 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 558.9530 and when you graduated, 559.9322 433 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 559.9322 (pause 0.90) 560.8344 434 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 560.8344 it was about twenty of us 562.3289 435 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 562.3289 (pause 0.61) 562.9398 436 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 562.9398 in a line 563.7686 437 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 563.7686 (pause 1.26) 565.0276 438 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 565.0276 and we had our cap and gown 566.5244 439 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 566.5244 (pause 0.59) 567.1166 440 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 567.1166 and your little diploma. 568.2077 441 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 568.2077 (pause 1.26) 569.4702 442 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 569.4702 And you had to count 570.5786 443 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 570.5786 (pause 0.98) 571.5563 444 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 571.5563 from one to a hundred 572.6037 445 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 572.6037 (pause 0.93) 573.5328 446 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 573.5328 and say your ABC's 575.1652 447 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 575.1652 (pause 1.05) 576.2157 448 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 576.2157 before you can- 576.8312 449 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 576.8312 (pause 0.20) 577.0271 450 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 577.0271 leave, you know, to graduate. 578.2348 451 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 578.2348 (pause 1.16) 579.3958 452 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 579.3958 And twenty-five of us, 580.4870 453 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 580.4870 (pause 0.27) 580.7531 454 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 580.7531 I was standing there like there asleep. 582.1738 455 VLD_int_01 583.1716 [] 585.7922 456 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 583.9550 [] 584.4912 457 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 584.4912 (pause 0.75) 585.2420 458 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 585.2420 [But] 585.7829 459 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 586.2678 we're graduated. 587.1771 460 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 587.1771 (pause 0.44) 587.6189 461 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 587.6189 From kindergarten. I left kindergarten, 589.2742 462 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 589.2742 (pause 0.12) 589.3908 463 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 589.3908 and I think that's when I went to /RD-NAME-6/. 591.7222 464 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 591.7222 (pause 1.19) 592.9159 465 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 592.9159 Started at /RD-NAME-6/, that's when I started, 595.2331 466 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 595.2331 (pause 0.61) 595.8384 467 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 595.8384 uh, the Four H Club and learned a little bit about electrician, 598.9719 468 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 598.9719 (pause 0.57) 599.5454 469 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 599.5454 all this other stuff, and then, uh, 601.1355 470 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 601.1355 (pause 1.09) 602.2266 471 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 602.2266 talked my dad into /me/ buying- getting me a- renting me a trumpet. 604.8425 472 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 604.8425 (pause 1.56) 606.3988 473 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 606.3988 And started 606.9210 474 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 606.9210 (pause 0.85) 607.7697 475 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 607.7697 m- um beginning trumpet 609.0240 476 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 609.0240 (pause 1.04) 610.0638 477 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 610.0638 at /RD-NAME-6/. 611.2622 478 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 611.2622 (pause 1.46) 612.7205 479 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 612.7205 But, 613.0796 480 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 613.0796 (pause 0.72) 613.8023 481 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 613.8023 me, I just knew 614.9680 482 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 614.9680 (pause 1.59) 616.5581 483 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 616.5581 school was as good. 617.7005 484 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 617.7005 (pause 0.72) 618.4234 485 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 618.4234 But it just wasn't for me. 619.3227 486 VLD_int_01 619.5827 It wasn't for you. Mm-hm. 620.5059 487 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 621.0422 It really wasn't for me. 621.9934 488 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 621.9934 (pause 0.46) 622.4550 489 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 622.4550 But, I- I- I graduated and left. 624.5347 490 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 624.5347 (pause 1.84) 626.3754 491 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 626.3754 Moved on. 627.0981 492 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 627.0981 (pause 0.12) 627.2175 493 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 627.2175 Okay, /RD-NAME-6/, but I was 629.1078 494 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 629.1078 (pause 0.42) 629.5275 495 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 629.5275 My main courses, 630.5673 496 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 630.5673 (pause 1.36) 631.9277 497 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 631.9277 632.2821 498 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 632.2821 (pause 0.53) 632.8137 499 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 632.8137 band, 633.4059 500 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 633.4059 (pause 1.31) 634.7185 501 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 634.7185 PE, 635.1568 502 VLD_int_01 635.2920 [] 637.7526 503 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 636.1640 [lunch], 636.6769 504 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 636.6769 (pause 1.08) 637.7526 505 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 637.7526 science. 638.5361 506 VLD_int_01 640.3804 You like science? 641.2570 507 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 641.2570 Love science, I love Star Trek, all that good stuff, man. 644.1562 508 VLD_int_01 645.6110 Why'd you- Why? 646.2918 509 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 647.1311 Because that was just interesting. I just I always likeded 649.5687 510 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 649.5687 (pause 1.30) 650.8650 511 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 650.8650 space. 651.7323 512 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 651.7323 (pause 0.32) 652.0493 513 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 652.0493 I wanted to be the first black astronaut, but 653.8882 514 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 653.8882 (pause 2.02) 655.9073 515 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 655.9073 these women. 656.7140 516 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 656.7140 (pause 0.16) 656.8772 517 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 656.8772 [] 658.1656 518 VLD_int_01 656.8772 [] 660.2452 519 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 660.5856 And right until a woman /girl ??/- Anyway. 663.3026 520 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 663.3026 (pause 1.42) 664.7202 521 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 664.7202 But, um, 665.2517 522 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 665.2517 (pause 0.33) 665.5781 523 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 665.5781 yeah, those were my main courses. 667.0330 524 VLD_int_01 667.8198 So, uh, 669.0881 525 VLD_int_01 669.0881 (pause 0.08) 669.1721 526 VLD_int_01 669.1721 how'd you get into, let's go back a little bit. How did you get into like- how'd you get interested into- 675.6645 527 VLD_int_01 675.6645 (pause 0.12) 675.7875 528 VLD_int_01 675.7875 mm-mm. Before that. What was 4-H? 677.6007 529 VLD_int_01 677.6007 (pause 0.14) 677.7412 530 VLD_int_01 677.7412 Can you j- explain a little bit more [about] 679.1537 531 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 678.9347 [Oh], [4-H?] 679.7244 532 VLD_int_01 679.5357 [cause] a lot of people don't know about 4-H? 681.1337 533 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 681.1118 Yeah. The 4-H Club 682.5079 534 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 682.6615 was 683.2185 535 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 683.2185 (pause 0.38) 683.5961 536 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 683.5961 a little 684.2766 537 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 684.2766 (pause 0.30) 684.5795 538 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 684.5795 684.7244 539 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 684.7244 (pause 0.50) 685.2205 540 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 685.2205 class like thing. It's a book and you could read 687.5435 541 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 687.5435 (pause 0.12) 687.6664 542 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 687.6664 and it teaches you about 689.1899 543 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 689.1899 (pause 0.83) 690.0240 544 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 690.0240 elect- 690.5289 545 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 690.5289 (pause 0.60) 691.1260 546 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 691.1260 e- 691.2621 547 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 691.2621 (pause 0.16) 691.4245 548 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 691.4245 it wa- it was just like a little club. 692.9222 549 VLD_int_01 693.1707 Mm-hm. 693.5878 550 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 693.6361 But, and then you- they g- they teach you 695.7786 551 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 695.7786 (pause 0.66) 696.4371 552 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 696.4371 basic skills on electricity, you know. 699.1163 553 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 699.1163 (pause 0.45) 699.5685 554 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 699.5685 Circuits, batteries, 701.2291 555 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 701.2291 (pause 0.39) 701.6154 556 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 701.6154 uh, voltage, 702.9281 557 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 702.9281 (pause 0.56) 703.4901 558 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 703.4901 wattage, 704.1529 559 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 704.1529 (pause 0.12) 704.2715 560 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 704.2715 kilowatts, 705.0881 561 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 705.0881 (pause 0.35) 705.4349 562 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 705.4349 all of that, and then 706.1637 563 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 706.1637 (pause 0.69) 706.8574 564 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 706.8574 you just learn about 707.7091 565 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 707.7091 (pause 0.37) 708.0778 566 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 708.0778 I know that- that's the main thing I learned was the electrician part on that. 710.7325 567 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 710.7325 (pause 0.83) 711.5622 568 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 711.5622 But they taught other stuff too. 713.0198 569 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 713.0198 (pause 1.04) 714.0588 570 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 714.0588 But I was more interested in electricity. 715.7578 571 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 715.7578 (pause 0.58) 716.3417 572 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 716.3417 716.9300 573 VLD_int_01 717.3147 [] 717.7502 574 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 717.3296 [] 718.2296 575 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 718.6993 Got shocked plenty time. 720.0368 576 VLD_int_01 720.8798 Did y'all like make circuits and batter- and 722.5569 577 VLD_int_01 722.5569 (pause 0.12) 722.6798 578 VLD_int_01 722.6798 do batteries and [test batteries] and [stuff?] 724.3569 579 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 723.4657 [Well.] 723.7203 580 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 723.7203 (pause 0.41) 724.1330 581 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 724.1330 [Yeah.] 724.7520 582 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 724.8618 And you can 725.5320 583 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 725.5320 (pause 0.14) 725.6724 584 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 725.6724 lik- learn to power up the battery, 727.3891 585 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 727.3891 (pause 0.68) 728.0652 586 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 728.0652 like, 728.3286 587 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 728.3286 (pause 0.27) 728.5964 588 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 728.5964 I loved to take /stuff up/ and put a battery in there. I'd get a little 731.5012 589 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 731.5012 (pause 0.29) 731.7910 590 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 731.7910 motor out of the battery, 732.9720 591 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 732.9720 (pause 0.12) 733.0949 592 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 733.0949 I mean out of a- a car, 734.3198 593 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 734.3198 (pause 0.88) 735.2022 594 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 735.2022 put two wires to it 736.4227 595 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 736.4227 (pause 0.43) 736.8530 596 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 736.8530 the negative and the positive and see it spin. 739.0510 597 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 739.0510 (pause 1.37) 740.4252 598 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 740.4252 Then, you make out what you- you come up with an idea of what you gonna do with the 743.7251 599 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 743.7251 (pause 0.80) 744.5242 600 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 744.5242 motor 745.0247 601 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 745.0247 (pause 0.29) 745.3144 602 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 745.3144 once you got it spinning. 746.5700 603 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 746.5700 (pause 1.15) 747.7159 604 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 747.7159 So, I made a little 748.7652 605 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 748.7652 (pause 0.59) 749.3563 606 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 749.3563 wooden boat. 750.0720 607 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 750.0720 (pause 0.74) 750.8095 608 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 750.8095 Put the 751.3452 609 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 751.3452 (pause 0.50) 751.8488 610 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 751.8488 motor to the back, 752.7576 611 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 752.7576 (pause 0.65) 753.4060 612 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 753.4060 and put a little fan off a little helicopter 755.6768 613 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 755.6768 (pause 0.58) 756.2607 614 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 756.2607 onto the motor. 756.9544 615 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 756.9544 (pause 1.65) 758.6052 616 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 758.6052 Put the wires together, and it start spinning, put it in the water and let it take off. 761.2729 617 VLD_int_01 762.8051 Wow. 763.1476 618 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 763.6656 Yeah, I'm real creative. 765.2918 619 VLD_int_01 765.9266 And crafty. 766.7959 620 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 767.1735 767.7778 621 VLD_int_01 768.2959 So, how did you get into- how'd you cause we gonna come back to how that lead to like you liking to do like 772.8837 622 VLD_int_01 772.8837 (pause 0.12) 773.0067 623 VLD_int_01 773.0067 plumbing and stuff like that. How'd you get into f- the band? 775.2661 624 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 775.8149 Yeah. In elementary, I just- 777.5227 625 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 777.5227 (pause 1.10) 778.6247 626 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 778.6247 my- 779.2510 627 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 779.2510 (pause 1.08) 780.3310 628 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 780.3310 I just likeded to watch 781.8588 629 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 781.8588 (pause 1.29) 783.1496 630 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 783.1496 music. 783.6149 631 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 783.6149 (pause 0.13) 783.7422 632 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 783.7422 I've seen music. 784.4930 633 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 784.4930 (pause 1.11) 785.6066 634 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 785.6066 And my uncle Keith, 786.9217 635 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 786.9217 (pause 0.86) 787.7842 636 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 787.7842 he play the trombone. 788.8818 637 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 788.8818 (pause 1.40) 790.2866 638 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 790.2866 So, 790.8530 639 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 790.8530 (pause 0.36) 791.2100 640 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 791.2100 I didn't like doing my arm, while I listened to him, so I wanted something easy with three little valve thinking that was gonna be easy to play. 796.7041 641 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 796.7041 (pause 2.21) 798.9109 642 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 798.9109 But actually, I found out, that that's really what- that's about the hardest thing you can do, you know, cause you got 803.3495 643 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 803.3495 (pause 0.20) 803.5470 644 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 803.5470 your lips got to be in shape. 804.8582 645 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 804.8582 (pause 0.23) 805.0865 646 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 805.0865 But, anyway. 805.5826 647 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 805.5826 (pause 0.39) 805.9733 648 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 805.9733 That's why I got 806.6802 649 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 806.6802 (pause 0.14) 806.8250 650 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 806.8250 into band, because 807.8919 651 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 807.8919 (pause 0.12) 808.0148 652 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 808.0148 he played the trombone. 809.1826 653 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 809.1826 (pause 1.35) 810.5348 654 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 810.5348 I wanted to play the trumpet. 811.6616 655 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 811.6616 (pause 0.48) 812.1401 656 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 812.1401 So, 812.4694 657 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 812.4694 (pause 1.21) 813.6768 658 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 813.6768 el- an- 814.0763 659 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 814.0763 (pause 0.43) 814.5065 660 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 814.5065 immediate 814.9587 661 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 814.9587 (pause 0.07) 815.0246 662 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 815.0246 uh, what in /RD-SCHOOL-6/, we got in beginning, 817.7231 663 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 817.7231 (pause 0.36) 818.0875 664 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 818.0875 beginning band. 819.0006 665 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 819.0006 (pause 1.99) 820.9938 666 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 820.9938 And a friend of mine, God bless the dead, /RD-NAME-3/. 823.4465 667 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 823.4465 (pause 1.09) 824.5353 668 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 824.5353 He- me and him 825.4748 669 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 825.4748 (pause 1.24) 826.7099 670 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 826.7099 we were playing g- in the band together. 828.3680 671 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 828.3680 (pause 2.21) 830.5792 672 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 830.5792 Me and uh- playing the trumpet together in the beginning. So 833.0026 673 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 833.0026 (pause 1.19) 834.1880 674 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 834.1880 that's how I got interested in- in- in 836.0172 675 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 836.0172 (pause 0.12) 836.1358 676 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 836.1358 playing the trumpet. 836.8294 677 VLD_int_01 838.0850 And then you played through middle school? 839.6216 678 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 840.3373 Yes. I- ever since then, I was playing. 842.8002 679 VLD_int_01 843.1894 So, where middle school did you got to? 844.3090 680 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 844.7524 Well, we went from s- 845.6524 681 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 845.6524 (pause 0.29) 845.9421 682 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 845.9421 /RD-SCHOOL-6/ 847.4377 683 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 847.4377 (pause 0.83) 848.2675 684 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 848.2675 to 848.7372 685 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 848.7372 (pause 0.40) 849.1411 686 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 849.1411 high school. 849.8085 687 VLD_int_01 850.1421 Oh, it's- it went all the way to eighth grade. 851.9509 688 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 851.9509 Uh-huh. 852.4778 689 VLD_int_01 852.6534 Oh, okay. 853.1260 690 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 854.4694 Yeah. 854.7460 691 VLD_int_01 855.9402 Was it integrated? Or was it segregated? 857.9246 692 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 858.9196 I can't remember. 859.9250 693 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 859.9250 (pause 0.27) 860.1972 694 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 860.1972 But I think it was segregated. 861.5099 695 VLD_int_01 862.2870 Mm. 862.6821 696 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 863.0860 And w- it finally may have been integrated. I- I- I can't remember that well. 866.7416 697 VLD_int_01 866.9524 Mm-hm. 867.4221 698 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 867.7470 Cause I really didn't pay attention to none of that. 869.4592 699 VLD_int_01 869.8017 N- 870.4646 700 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 871.3104 [] 871.6572 701 VLD_int_01 871.5519 [Um.] When you got to- so, 873.1324 702 VLD_int_01 873.3211 was it different when you got to high school? 874.7216 703 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 875.7859 Yeah, it was more enjoyable, we start, uh, 878.4069 704 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 878.4069 (pause 0.83) 879.2323 705 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 879.2323 879.3508 706 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 879.3508 (pause 0.66) 880.0137 707 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 880.0137 going on trips 881.0850 708 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 881.0850 (pause 1.89) 882.9713 709 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 882.9713 and meeting 883.9064 710 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 883.9064 (pause 0.46) 884.3630 711 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 884.3630 more women. 884.9513 712 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 884.9513 (pause 0.28) 885.2279 713 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 885.2279 886.0576 714 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 886.0576 (pause 0.10) 886.1586 715 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 886.1586 And more 886.8435 716 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 886.8435 (pause 1.57) 888.4181 717 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 888.4181 everything the- a- and the, uh, grades and the classes was more interesting. 892.4879 718 VLD_int_01 892.5713 Mm-hm. 892.9269 719 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 893.2825 You know, y- y- ya- it done got up now to 895.1996 720 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 895.1996 (pause 1.30) 896.5035 721 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 896.5035 that's when I started thinking about the space thing really. 898.5713 722 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 898.5713 (pause 1.54) 900.1148 723 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 900.1148 Okay. We get into science and- 901.5856 724 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 901.5856 (pause 1.41) 902.9933 725 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 902.9933 and blowing stuff up and just (laughing) all kind of stuff. It was fun. 906.2135 726 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 906.2135 (pause 1.69) 907.9045 727 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 907.9045 And 908.6860 728 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 908.6860 (pause 0.47) 909.1558 729 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 909.1558 band was extremely fun, I really loved that. 911.8470 730 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 911.8470 (pause 1.40) 913.2431 731 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 913.2431 Um, 913.7261 732 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 913.7261 (pause 0.12) 913.8490 733 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 913.8490 yeah, that basic- I'm telling you- cause high school, 916.1762 734 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 916.1762 (pause 0.67) 916.8479 735 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 916.8479 it was okay, but 917.6294 736 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 917.6294 (pause 0.65) 918.2792 737 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 918.2792 I ba- barely got out, I think I only made it to the 921.0040 738 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 921.0040 (pause 0.14) 921.1401 739 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 921.1401 n- 921.2103 740 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 921.2103 (pause 0.11) 921.3245 741 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 921.3245 uh, 921.6669 742 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 921.6669 (pause 0.30) 921.9699 743 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 921.9699 I was a junior. 922.8216 744 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 922.8216 (pause 0.39) 923.2123 745 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 923.2123 Sophomore. 923.8928 746 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 923.8928 (pause 1.07) 924.9581 747 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 924.9581 I dropped out. 925.5552 748 VLD_int_01 926.2884 Mm-hm. 926.6703 749 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 927.1225 I made it though, I- I went the whole years and all my other friends graduated. I was still in the band with them and all that stuff, but, 932.0601 750 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 932.0601 (pause 0.78) 932.8416 751 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 932.8416 you know, like, cause then, you could go to 934.5757 752 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 934.5757 (pause 0.22) 934.7952 753 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 934.7952 another grade 935.6162 754 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 935.6162 (pause 0.35) 935.9631 755 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 935.9631 by passing that class. 937.2128 756 VLD_int_01 937.5684 Right. 937.8186 757 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 938.0074 But in the other class, they still held you back. 939.8074 758 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 939.8074 (pause 0.58) 940.3913 759 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 940.3913 You know, but you could still go through 941.8401 760 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 941.8401 (pause 0.60) 942.4401 761 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 942.4401 the whole school system, and make it up if you want to, but 944.9469 762 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 944.9469 (pause 2.46) 947.4055 763 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 947.4055 I just 948.1606 764 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 948.1606 (pause 0.25) 948.4065 765 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 948.4065 went on until I got tired. Until, you know, it was time for me to go, everybody has to go to /inaudible/ 952.6240 766 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 952.6240 (pause 0.16) 952.7865 767 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 952.7865 Shoot, the class I'm in now, they graduated, I'm'a leave with them. 955.7220 768 VLD_int_01 955.8977 Right. 956.2313 769 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 956.2928 Mm. You know. So. 957.2147 770 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 957.2147 (pause 1.47) 958.6855 771 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 958.6855 That's what I did. 959.5504 772 VLD_int_01 959.7918 What'd you do, um. 961.1337 773 VLD_int_01 961.1337 (pause 2.22) 963.3552 774 VLD_int_01 963.3552 So, let me go back. Go back to band. T- tell me about- 966.3022 775 VLD_int_01 966.3022 (pause 0.09) 966.3944 776 VLD_int_01 966.3944 cause I'm- 966.7281 777 VLD_int_01 966.7281 (pause 0.23) 966.9564 778 VLD_int_01 966.9564 I was in the band. 967.6281 779 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 967.7686 [Mm-hm.] 968.2076 780 VLD_int_01 967.7686 [I loved] the band. 968.7724 781 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 968.9524 Yeah. 969.2158 782 VLD_int_01 969.3651 Uh, that was like me favorite 971.0378 783 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 971.2529 Yes. 971.8851 784 VLD_int_01 972.0432 all the time. So, tell me a little bit about when you got to high school. First of all, how was it different from like middle school? You say you started going on trips, what w- 977.8723 785 VLD_int_01 977.8723 (pause 0.34) 978.2104 786 VLD_int_01 978.2104 with the [marching band?] 979.1806 787 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 978.7284 [Yeah.] 979.2070 788 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 979.4265 Yeah. 979.7909 789 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 979.7909 (pause 0.40) 980.1860 790 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 980.1860 It was a lot different because see, 981.6785 791 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 981.6785 (pause 0.93) 982.6079 792 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 982.6079 um, 983.0733 793 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 983.0733 (pause 0.35) 983.4240 794 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 983.4240 I'm gonna say, in elementary, 984.6494 795 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 984.6494 (pause 0.44) 985.0906 796 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 985.0906 they used to have little talent shows, so 986.9417 797 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 986.9417 (pause 0.72) 987.6617 798 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 987.6617 me and /RD-NAME-1/, we was up 989.2275 799 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 989.2275 (pause 1.16) 990.3909 800 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 990.3909 on the stage and we had this little 992.1426 801 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 992.1426 (pause 0.12) 992.2656 802 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 992.2656 thing that we had to play, like a duet thing together, and 994.4783 803 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 994.4783 (pause 0.72) 995.1967 804 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 995.1967 yeah, and we was in front 996.2021 805 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 996.2021 (pause 0.09) 996.2899 806 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 996.2899 of everybody, and we had fun. We- we played 998.8846 807 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 998.8846 (pause 0.77) 999.6529 808 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 999.6529 that. And so, you know, I'm saying shoot. This is nice, you know, people liked us playing. 1002.9309 809 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1002.9309 (pause 0.50) 1003.4358 810 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1003.4358 They enjoyed the, uh, 1004.4148 811 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1004.4148 (pause 0.22) 1004.6300 812 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1004.6300 playing that we did. 1005.4861 813 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1005.4861 (pause 1.50) 1006.9816 814 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1006.9816 I said, look like this gonna go somewhere. 1008.5577 815 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1008.5577 (pause 1.03) 1009.5851 816 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1009.5851 So, when we get to high school, yeah, okay. Now 1011.4992 817 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1011.4992 (pause 1.34) 1012.8411 818 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1012.8411 beginner band 1013.7938 819 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1013.7938 (pause 0.44) 1014.2372 820 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1014.2372 and we get to go on trips. We- we had to go to Douglas for band camp. 1018.0524 821 VLD_int_01 1018.1446 Mm-hm. 1018.7050 822 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1018.8367 Yeah. For [] 1020.0704 823 VLD_int_01 1019.5611 [] 1021.1197 824 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1020.9748 [Enjoyed] that. 1022.0241 825 VLD_int_01 1022.4412 It was hot. 1023.1568 826 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1023.3763 Yes, lord. 1024.3290 827 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1024.3290 (pause 1.03) 1025.3548 828 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1025.3548 But, we 1026.1143 829 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1026.1143 (pause 0.15) 1026.2636 830 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1026.2636 you know, you get to bond together and stick together, and get your, k- uh, uh, pride and all that good stuff. 1030.6993 831 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1030.6993 (pause 0.68) 1031.3811 832 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1031.3811 Cause we were the spirit band. 1032.4612 833 VLD_int_01 1032.9485 Mm-hm. 1033.2997 834 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1033.2997 Yeah. 1034.1165 835 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1034.8143 I enjoyed that. We'd say we are the spirit band, the mighty, mighty spirit band. Everywhere we go, 1038.9748 836 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1038.9748 (pause 0.61) 1039.5895 837 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1039.5895 people wanna know who we are, so we tell 'em. 1042.0700 838 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1042.0700 (pause 1.91) 1043.9782 839 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1043.9782 And then, the uh, 1044.6807 840 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1044.6807 (pause 0.11) 1044.7860 841 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1044.7860 Big Band, they was down there, that's where my uncle played the trump- 1047.2885 842 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1047.2885 (pause 0.09) 1047.3763 843 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1047.3763 trombone. 1047.9997 844 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1047.9997 (pause 0.87) 1048.8675 845 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1048.8675 We had our field line here, and then they had they field. 1051.0890 846 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1051.0890 (pause 0.36) 1051.4490 847 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1051.4490 And 1051.7102 848 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1051.7102 (pause 0.87) 1052.5817 849 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1052.5817 it was nice. 1053.4290 850 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1053.4290 (pause 0.40) 1053.8285 851 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1053.8285 I enjoyed that and- and- 1055.1221 852 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1055.1221 (pause 0.46) 1055.5801 853 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1055.5801 it was away from home 1056.5533 854 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1056.5533 (pause 1.92) 1058.4763 855 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1058.4763 /and/ crazy when they did they little initiation. 1060.4344 856 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1060.4344 (pause 0.66) 1061.0958 857 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1061.0958 1061.5392 858 VLD_int_01 1061.5787 What? 1061.8158 859 VLD_int_01 1061.8158 (pause 0.13) 1061.9475 860 VLD_int_01 1061.9475 The had an initiation? 1062.9781 861 VLD_int_01 1062.9781 (pause 0.15) 1063.1285 862 VLD_int_01 1063.1285 [To the Big] Band? 1063.9629 863 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1063.1680 [Yeah.] 1063.5456 864 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1064.1163 [The big band] initiated us. 1065.9031 865 VLD_int_01 1064.1275 [or to the sp-] 1064.7379 866 VLD_int_01 1066.0480 Oh. 1066.3378 867 VLD_int_01 1066.3378 (pause 0.14) 1066.4783 868 VLD_int_01 1066.4783 How- h- what happened? 1067.7189 869 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1068.1008 Well, we 1068.6189 870 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1068.6189 (pause 0.30) 1068.9174 871 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1068.9174 they- they stopped it because 1070.5710 872 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1070.5710 (pause 0.55) 1071.1242 873 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1071.1242 the, uh, older kids, the big band, they were doing crazy stuff, [they w-] 1074.5750 874 VLD_int_01 1074.2038 [Alright.] 1074.5750 875 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1075.2116 Putting Nair on somebody head. And- and- all the [hair came] out. 1078.4984 876 VLD_int_01 1077.6511 [Mm.] 1077.9891 877 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1080.2721 Lord. 1080.8516 878 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1080.8516 (pause 0.14) 1080.9929 879 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1080.9929 Me and, 1081.6271 880 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1081.6271 (pause 0.70) 1082.3296 881 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1082.3296 uh, 1082.7423 882 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1082.7423 (pause 0.14) 1082.8824 883 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1082.8824 /RD-NAME-3/, we 1083.9276 884 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1083.9276 (pause 0.34) 1084.2701 885 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1084.2701 /RD-NAME-6/ 1085.6881 886 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1085.6881 (pause 1.19) 1086.8808 887 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1086.8808 he was gay. 1087.5393 888 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1087.5393 (pause 0.62) 1088.1584 889 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1088.1584 He played trumpet. 1088.7818 890 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1088.7818 (pause 0.27) 1089.0496 891 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1089.0496 We didn't want no gay person in our, uh, 1090.9506 892 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1090.9506 (pause 0.99) 1091.9384 893 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1091.9384 band group. 1092.5838 894 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1092.5838 (pause 0.24) 1092.8208 895 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1092.8208 In our 1093.1721 896 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1093.1721 (pause 0.10) 1093.2730 897 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1093.2730 trumpet section. 1093.9388 898 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1093.9388 (pause 1.43) 1095.3701 899 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1095.3701 But, god bless dead, we put that joker /RD-NAME-3/ in the dumpster. 1098.4389 900 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1098.4389 (pause 1.31) 1099.7501 901 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1099.7501 Told him, he's gonna hafta, uh, 1101.0671 902 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1101.0671 (pause 0.23) 1101.2954 903 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1101.2954 man up. 1101.8750 904 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1101.8750 (pause 1.90) 1103.7716 905 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1103.7716 We put him in there thinking he was gonna get out. 1105.5130 906 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1105.5130 (pause 0.96) 1106.4745 907 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1106.4745 Lord. 1106.9925 908 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1106.9925 (pause 0.12) 1107.1154 909 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1107.1154 Here come lunchtime, we /up/ 1108.3579 910 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1108.3579 (pause 0.41) 1108.7662 911 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1108.7662 at lunch, everybody aksing, where's /RD-NAME-3/? Anybody seen /RD-NAME-3/? 1111.3038 912 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1111.3038 (pause 1.08) 1112.3823 913 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1112.3823 Me and /RD-NAME-1/ looked at each other, I said, um, 1114.3359 914 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1114.3359 (pause 0.98) 1115.3137 915 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1115.3137 you think he still in there? 1116.3730 916 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1116.3730 (pause 1.16) 1117.5349 917 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1117.5349 He said, I don't know. So, somebody had to say something. 1120.0111 918 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1120.0111 (pause 0.94) 1120.9462 919 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1120.9462 I said, sir, uh, um, 1122.2633 920 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1122.2633 (pause 0.43) 1122.6935 921 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1122.6935 We just initiated him and we uh, we- we put him in- out there in the dumpster, to 1126.2437 922 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1126.2437 (pause 0.53) 1126.7706 923 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1126.7706 thought he was gonna be done got out by now. Shoot, I don't know he might be still there, I don't know. 1130.3823 924 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1130.3823 (pause 1.22) 1131.6072 925 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1131.6072 Went there, he was still in there crying. 1133.2403 926 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1133.2403 (pause 1.54) 1134.7813 927 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1134.7813 Boy they had us run around the building about a hundred time with our trumpet over our head. (laughing) 1138.4896 928 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1138.4896 (pause 1.41) 1139.8989 929 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1139.8989 But, 1140.3291 930 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1140.3291 (pause 1.10) 1141.4252 931 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1141.4252 it was fun, uh, and 1142.9508 932 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1142.9508 (pause 0.86) 1143.8135 933 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1143.8135 he still gay. 1144.7267 934 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1144.7267 (pause 0.51) 1145.2403 935 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1145.2403 1146.1008 936 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1146.1008 (pause 0.72) 1146.8165 937 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1146.8165 Didn't break him. 1147.6096 938 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1147.6096 (pause 1.59) 1149.1989 939 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1149.1989 But, anyway. 1149.8618 940 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1149.8618 (pause 1.41) 1151.2755 941 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1151.2755 Yeah, we just enjoyed the band. [It was fun.] 1153.0294 942 VLD_int_01 1152.6189 [How'd you get] into the Big Band? 1153.9715 943 VLD_int_01 1154.0505 How wa- what was your initiation? 1155.3832 944 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1155.6598 Okay, well, 1156.4940 945 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1156.4940 (pause 0.15) 1156.6433 946 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1156.6433 I ran too much. They couldn't catch [me.] 1159.1721 947 VLD_int_01 1158.9174 [] 1160.1715 948 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1159.8771 [] 1160.3556 949 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1160.7009 They couldn't catch me. 1161.8223 950 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1161.8223 (pause 0.89) 1162.7135 951 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1162.7135 But boy, they, uh, I ain't even gonna 1164.5399 952 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1164.5399 (pause 0.11) 1164.6496 953 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1164.6496 uh- they- they did- they- they 1165.8159 954 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1165.8159 (pause 1.10) 1166.9127 955 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1166.9127 they initiated me by putting me in a room with a white girl. 1169.4211 956 VLD_int_01 1170.3800 Mm. 1170.7268 957 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1172.4434 And nothing happened. 1173.6712 958 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1173.6712 (pause 0.80) 1174.4690 959 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1174.4690 But, I told her you better say something happened. (laughing) 1176.5073 960 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1176.5073 (pause 1.05) 1177.5536 961 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1177.5536 You know, cause, I was- I'm being honest, I- I was really scared. 1180.4570 962 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1180.4570 (pause 0.19) 1180.6502 963 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1180.6502 Uh. 1180.9926 964 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1180.9926 (pause 0.47) 1181.4668 965 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1181.4668 I didn't have sex until I was 1183.4644 966 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1183.4644 (pause 1.15) 1184.6102 967 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1184.6102 what? 1184.9160 968 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1184.9160 (pause 1.02) 1185.9390 969 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1185.9390 Twenty? 1186.4131 970 VLD_int_01 1188.0990 You? Mr. Running man? [] 1191.5026 971 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1189.7069 [] 1190.6684 972 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1191.5596 1192.0147 973 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1192.0147 (pause 0.61) 1192.6250 974 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1192.6250 Yeah. I think was about nineteen or twenty. 1194.4718 975 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1194.4718 (pause 0.98) 1195.4567 976 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1195.4567 Anyway. 1195.7991 977 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1195.7991 (pause 0.67) 1196.4708 978 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1196.4708 I told her, you better say- say something. 1198.0937 979 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1198.0937 (pause 0.67) 1198.7654 980 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1198.7654 1199.9333 981 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1199.9333 (pause 1.00) 1200.9299 982 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1200.9299 That's how I got initiated in the Big Band. Mm. 1202.9471 983 VLD_int_01 1204.6337 Um. 1205.2327 984 VLD_int_01 1205.2327 (pause 1.56) 1206.7938 985 VLD_int_01 1206.7938 So. 1207.7113 986 VLD_int_01 1207.7113 (pause 0.43) 1208.1460 987 VLD_int_01 1208.1460 Then, 1208.7650 988 VLD_int_01 1208.7650 (pause 0.18) 1208.9494 989 VLD_int_01 1208.9494 after you left high school, what'd you do? 1210.7040 990 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1211.7137 Well, after I left high school, that's when I was trying to 1214.3830 991 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1214.3830 (pause 0.56) 1214.9409 992 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1214.9409 figure out what I wanted to be. 1216.2430 993 VLD_int_01 1216.2430 Mm-hm. 1216.6118 994 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1217.4196 Oh lord, I b- I went- when I went to Orlando, 1220.2162 995 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1220.2162 (pause 0.31) 1220.5279 996 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1220.5279 I- 1221.0723 997 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1221.0723 (pause 1.04) 1222.1113 998 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1222.1113 Well, 1222.3967 999 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1222.3967 (pause 0.32) 1222.7171 1000 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1222.7171 first of all, I was here 1224.2011 1001 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1224.2011 (pause 0.91) 1225.1099 1002 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1225.1099 and my dad worked at /RD-WORK-4/ mixing paint, so they let me 1228.7918 1003 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1228.7918 (pause 1.02) 1229.8103 1004 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1229.8103 do delivering. 1230.6181 1005 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1230.6181 (pause 0.40) 1231.0177 1006 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1231.0177 I delivered the paint to the auto shops. 1233.0353 1007 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1233.0353 (pause 1.41) 1234.4406 1008 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1234.4406 And it boring. 1235.3098 1009 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1235.3098 (pause 1.10) 1236.4074 1010 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1236.4074 So, 1236.9430 1011 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1236.9430 (pause 0.13) 1237.0703 1012 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1237.0703 I w- 1237.8650 1013 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1237.8650 (pause 0.10) 1237.9616 1014 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1237.9616 left, I went to Orlando, 1239.5552 1015 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1239.5552 (pause 1.14) 1240.6908 1016 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1240.6908 I started doing irrigation. 1242.0405 1017 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1242.0405 (pause 0.92) 1242.9650 1018 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1242.9650 That's how I got my earring. 1244.0226 1019 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1244.0226 (pause 0.64) 1244.6640 1020 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1244.6640 Say, if you're on the earring- uh, if you're on the irrigation crew, 1247.1167 1021 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1247.1167 (pause 0.53) 1247.6435 1022 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1247.6435 you had to have a earring in you. 1248.9518 1023 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1248.9518 (pause 1.19) 1250.1372 1024 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1250.1372 And it was me, my cousin /RD-NAME-3/, uh 1252.7479 1025 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1252.7479 (pause 1.12) 1253.8630 1026 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1253.8630 and some white- me and him was the only two black 1255.6894 1027 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1255.6894 (pause 0.12) 1255.8123 1028 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1255.8123 and everybody else, it was about 1256.8030 1029 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1256.8030 (pause 0.14) 1256.9479 1030 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1256.9479 six other white guys. 1258.2167 1031 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1258.2167 (pause 1.01) 1259.2264 1032 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1259.2264 But, me and him, me and my cousin, we were the boss. We was over them, 1262.1481 1033 VLD_int_01 1262.7782 Mm. 1263.1030 1034 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1263.2216 Yeah, we come over and just 1264.6425 1035 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1264.6425 (pause 0.80) 1265.4406 1036 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1265.4406 take over the place. 1266.3284 1037 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1266.3284 (pause 0.97) 1267.3030 1038 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1267.3030 Try to take Orlando over, but they got a place for you. 1269.6606 1039 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1269.6606 (pause 1.00) 1270.6601 1040 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1270.6601 Y- at Thirty-third Street Jail. 1272.2011 1041 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1272.2011 (pause 0.28) 1272.4820 1042 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1272.4820 But I'll tell you about that later. 1273.6762 1043 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1273.6762 (pause 0.93) 1274.6026 1044 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1274.6026 But, we enjoyed the, uh, irrigation crew. 1276.8708 1045 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1276.8708 (pause 0.36) 1277.2352 1046 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1277.2352 We 1277.7928 1047 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1277.7928 (pause 0.21) 1277.9991 1048 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1277.9991 did uh, Arnold k- Arnold Palmer Golf Course. 1280.9011 1049 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1280.9011 (pause 1.18) 1282.0762 1050 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1282.0762 Putting down sprinkler systems out there. 1284.0342 1051 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1284.0342 (pause 0.63) 1284.6674 1052 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1284.6674 1284.7806 1053 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1284.7806 (pause 0.48) 1285.2635 1054 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1285.2635 Okay. 1285.9308 1055 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1285.9308 (pause 1.07) 1287.0021 1056 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1287.0021 I stay- I stayed there for about five years. 1289.2133 1057 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1289.2133 (pause 1.48) 1290.6978 1058 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1290.6978 1290.7663 1059 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1290.7663 (pause 0.95) 1291.7201 1060 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1291.7201 Okay, that li- that taught me a little bit about plumbing. 1293.7660 1061 VLD_int_01 1294.4142 Mm-hm. 1294.7391 1062 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1294.9937 And so, I say, oh this is interesting, I mean, this is da, da, da, da, it's okay. 1298.4752 1063 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1298.4752 (pause 0.92) 1299.3972 1064 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1299.3972 So then, I moved back home. 1300.9806 1065 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1300.9806 (pause 1.03) 1302.0079 1066 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1302.0079 Came home, got bored again. 1303.9616 1067 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1303.9616 (pause 1.40) 1305.3577 1068 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1305.3577 I went up to uh, 1306.4801 1069 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1306.4801 (pause 0.27) 1306.7479 1070 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1306.7479 Maryland. 1307.4265 1071 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1307.4265 (pause 1.70) 1309.1230 1072 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1309.1230 I got to Maryland 1310.2118 1073 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1310.2118 (pause 0.13) 1310.3435 1074 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1310.3435 and 1311.0065 1075 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1311.0065 (pause 1.60) 1312.6030 1076 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1312.6030 /stay got-/ got married. 1314.1747 1077 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1314.1747 (pause 2.80) 1316.9713 1078 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1316.9713 [And.] 1317.4982 1079 VLD_int_01 1316.9713 [Excuse me.] 1317.4982 1080 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1317.7353 Excuse you- bless you. 1318.9542 1081 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1318.9542 (pause 0.62) 1319.5733 1082 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1319.5733 So, 1319.9640 1083 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1319.9640 (pause 1.58) 1321.5401 1084 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1321.5401 the wife I had, she was crazy. 1323.1645 1085 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1323.1645 (pause 1.93) 1325.0947 1086 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1325.0947 She was money hungry. 1326.4074 1087 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1326.4074 (pause 2.92) 1329.3226 1088 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1329.3226 I got to talk about this? 1330.2254 1089 VLD_int_01 1330.6908 Mm. 1331.2528 1090 VLD_int_01 1331.2528 (pause 0.15) 1331.4020 1091 VLD_int_01 1331.4020 [You- you brought it in.] 1332.7265 1092 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1331.4284 [Okay. Okay. I- Well] you was saying about [tell me about.] 1334.1196 1093 VLD_int_01 1333.5752 [But, I was] just telling about when you moved. You- [you t-] you can 1336.3071 1094 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1335.4378 [Yeah.] 1335.8900 1095 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1335.8900 (pause 0.40) 1336.2939 1096 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1336.2939 How did I get [interested i- in- in plumbing.] [That's] 1338.9983 1097 VLD_int_01 1337.2215 [to different places- mm-hm.] 1338.4771 1098 VLD_int_01 1338.4771 (pause 0.40) 1338.8772 1099 VLD_int_01 1338.8772 [So] you can move, so you married then y'all got a [divorce.] 1341.6387 1100 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1341.5333 [Yeah.] We got a divorce, I go- got married again. 1343.8894 1101 VLD_int_01 1343.9991 Okay. 1344.4056 1102 VLD_int_01 1344.4056 (pause 0.10) 1344.5022 1103 VLD_int_01 1344.5022 And you still in Maryland 1345.4040 1104 VLD_int_01 1345.4040 (pause 0.61) 1346.0143 1105 VLD_int_01 1346.0143 at this 1346.3391 1106 VLD_int_01 1346.3391 (pause 0.12) 1346.4621 1107 VLD_int_01 1346.4621 [time?] 1346.7132 1108 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1346.4840 [Oh] no. I- I came- I [c-] 1347.7387 1109 VLD_int_01 1347.5192 [Came back.] 1347.8967 1110 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1347.9972 I came home. 1348.5764 1111 VLD_int_01 1348.5764 Okay. 1348.9583 1112 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1349.7266 I know /RD-NAME-2/ told me say I'd be a interesting character this. [] 1353.2637 1113 VLD_int_01 1352.5919 [] 1354.5456 1114 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1354.3173 [So,] anyway. (laughing) 1355.3710 1115 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1356.5988 I've been through it child. I'm'a tell you. 1358.1266 1116 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1358.1266 (pause 0.36) 1358.4910 1117 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1358.4910 Up and down the East Coast. 1359.5578 1118 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1359.5578 (pause 0.84) 1360.3964 1119 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1360.3964 So, anyway, uh, 1361.3798 1120 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1361.3798 (pause 0.47) 1361.8452 1121 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1361.8452 I came back 1362.6602 1122 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1362.6602 (pause 0.34) 1363.0027 1123 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1363.0027 Maryland, I was doing plumbing. 1364.4119 1124 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1364.4119 (pause 0.28) 1364.6885 1125 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1364.6885 for myself. 1365.4481 1126 VLD_int_01 1366.6817 Okay, but I do wanna know. Go back to Mar- how'd you get into the plumbing outside of irrigation? So you just started to- 1370.9739 1127 VLD_int_01 1370.9739 (pause 0.28) 1371.2505 1128 VLD_int_01 1371.2505 decided to start doing plumbing? 1372.6510 1129 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1372.7915 Yeah. 1373.1954 1130 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1373.1954 (pause 0.14) 1373.3315 1131 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1373.3315 I- I- 1373.8480 1132 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1373.8480 (pause 0.09) 1373.9358 1133 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1373.9358 when I was left the irrigation, 1375.2310 1134 VLD_int_01 1375.2836 Mm-hm. 1375.6173 1135 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1375.9422 uh s- 1376.4690 1136 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1376.4690 (pause 0.49) 1376.9607 1137 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1376.9607 I already know a little plumbing because of 1378.7827 1138 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1378.7827 (pause 0.43) 1379.2086 1139 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1379.2086 coming up in the neighborhood. I'm sorry. Lemme back up there. 1381.3451 1140 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1381.3451 (pause 0.61) 1381.9554 1141 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1381.9554 Uh, my friend, /RD-NAME-2/ daddy was a, uh, 1384.0056 1142 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1384.0056 (pause 0.10) 1384.1022 1143 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1384.1022 plumber. 1384.5588 1144 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1384.5588 (pause 0.89) 1385.4456 1145 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1385.4456 His brother, /RD-NAME-2/ Junior, he was the first state black 1388.4076 1146 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1388.4076 (pause 0.51) 1388.9168 1147 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1388.9168 master plumber in South Georgia. 1390.5983 1148 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1390.5983 (pause 1.43) 1392.0252 1149 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1392.0252 And /RD-NAME-2/, his brother that- um, 1393.9645 1150 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1393.9645 (pause 1.43) 1395.3979 1151 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1395.3979 he was a plumber. So, we all used to help them. 1397.6081 1152 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1397.6081 (pause 1.21) 1398.8139 1153 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1398.8139 And that's how I actually basically got 1400.9212 1154 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1400.9212 (pause 0.34) 1401.2637 1155 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1401.2637 into the plumbing. Because I said /nice people/ I like this. 1403.5676 1156 VLD_int_01 1403.7827 Right. 1404.0242 1157 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1404.8847 I said, it's kind of crazy, 1406.3949 1158 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1406.3949 (pause 1.21) 1407.6067 1159 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1407.6067 crawling up under the house, 1409.2515 1160 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1409.2515 (pause 0.31) 1409.5588 1161 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1409.5588 and don't know what's under there. 1410.6696 1162 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1410.6696 (pause 0.96) 1411.6310 1163 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1411.6310 But, 1411.9383 1164 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1411.9383 (pause 0.36) 1412.2940 1165 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1412.2940 I l- I started liking it. 1413.4442 1166 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1413.4442 (pause 0.33) 1413.7779 1167 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1413.7779 And that's when I start- when I moved and went to 1416.3008 1168 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1416.3008 (pause 0.79) 1417.0910 1169 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1417.0910 Maryland. 1417.6310 1170 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1417.6310 (pause 0.78) 1418.4070 1171 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1418.4070 And I was doing plumbing over there too. 1420.1335 1172 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1420.1335 (pause 0.58) 1420.7086 1173 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1420.7086 And, well I was actually a handyman. 1422.4193 1174 VLD_int_01 1422.6388 Mm-hm. 1423.1305 1175 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1423.3018 Had my own slogan. 1424.3159 1176 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1424.3159 (pause 1.03) 1425.3432 1177 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1425.3432 /RD-NAME-1/ the handyman. Plumbing, electrician, carpentry, 1428.2920 1178 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1428.2920 (pause 0.14) 1428.4369 1179 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1428.4369 there's nothing I can't do 1429.5257 1180 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1429.5257 (pause 0.21) 1429.7320 1181 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1429.7320 but have a baby. 1430.4740 1182 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1430.4740 (pause 1.27) 1431.7471 1183 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1431.7471 One thing I ain't gonna do, have no plan with a man. 1433.8786 1184 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1433.8786 (pause 1.14) 1435.0208 1185 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1435.0208 Okay. 1435.5037 1186 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1435.5037 (pause 0.71) 1436.2149 1187 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1436.2149 Put them flyers out, people started calling me. 1438.0457 1188 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1438.0457 (pause 1.29) 1439.3393 1189 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1439.3393 Putting on break shoes and doing everything, all this and that, but 1442.4257 1190 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1442.4257 (pause 0.52) 1442.9437 1191 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1442.9437 that's when I got- 1443.6462 1192 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1443.6462 (pause 0.27) 1443.9184 1193 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1443.9184 kind of got hurt. 1444.6076 1194 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1444.6076 (pause 0.83) 1445.4359 1195 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1445.4359 From my knee and stuff and all that. And I 1447.3325 1196 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1447.3325 (pause 0.30) 1447.6310 1197 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1447.6310 applied for disability, 1448.6584 1198 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1448.6584 (pause 1.47) 1450.1291 1199 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1450.1291 and it came through when I was in Maryland. [So.] 1452.1515 1200 VLD_int_01 1451.8444 [Mm-hm.] 1452.1599 1201 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1453.5476 But I still was doing my little plumbing, I done- I enjoyed that. 1455.7471 1202 VLD_int_01 1456.3135 Mm. 1456.5418 1203 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1457.5632 So, that's how I got interested in plumbing. 1459.3676 1204 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1459.3676 (pause 1.24) 1460.6101 1205 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1460.6101 Then, I wanted to open up my own 1461.9579 1206 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1461.9579 (pause 0.13) 1462.0852 1207 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1462.0852 business so I started working for myself. 1463.6906 1208 VLD_int_01 1466.2545 How long that's been? This has been like thirty years. 1468.3135 1209 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1468.3135 Yeah. 1468.6779 1210 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1468.8140 M- e- exactly. I- I- I would say, uh, 1470.8013 1211 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1470.8013 (pause 0.70) 1471.5037 1212 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1471.5037 I'm'a say like, um, 1472.5094 1213 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1472.5094 (pause 1.56) 1474.0676 1214 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1474.0676 thirty year. 1474.8172 1215 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1474.8172 (pause 0.76) 1475.5764 1216 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1475.5764 Master plumber. Yup. 1476.4457 1217 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1476.4457 (pause 0.15) 1476.5993 1218 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1476.5993 Uh, it /is/ thirty-two years. Something like that. 1478.3862 1219 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1478.3862 (pause 0.95) 1479.3353 1220 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1479.3353 I'm fifty-seven. 1480.2345 1221 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1480.2345 (pause 0.54) 1480.7745 1222 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1480.7745 /Thirty- forty-/ Yeah. 1481.8134 1223 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1481.8134 (pause 0.61) 1482.4281 1224 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1482.4281 You're right. 1482.7266 1225 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1482.7266 (pause 0.58) 1483.3105 1226 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1483.3105 You can add good can't [you?] 1484.3335 1227 VLD_int_01 1484.1710 [] 1486.2037 1228 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1485.1808 [] 1486.7350 1229 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1487.6642 [Yeah.] 1488.1559 1230 VLD_int_01 1487.7883 [So, then you] left Maryland, you came back. 1489.4203 1231 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1489.9042 Yeah. I came back here and- and- and 1491.9579 1232 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1491.9579 (pause 1.13) 1493.0847 1233 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1493.0847 um, lemme see. 1494.3974 1234 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1494.3974 (pause 1.62) 1496.0218 1235 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1496.0218 /inaudible/ 1496.6375 1236 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1496.6375 (pause 2.35) 1498.9852 1237 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1498.9852 No, that was my last wife. 1500.1647 1238 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1500.1647 (pause 0.42) 1500.5861 1239 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1500.5861 I skipped one. 1501.2622 1240 VLD_int_01 1501.7101 Okay. 1502.1008 1241 VLD_int_01 1502.1008 (pause 1.37) 1503.4662 1242 VLD_int_01 1503.4662 But she was in Maryland too? 1504.4836 1243 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1504.6296 No. 1505.2339 1244 VLD_int_01 1505.2339 Oh, okay. 1505.6735 1245 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1505.6104 She lived in New York. 1506.4182 1246 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1507.1305 Yeah. 1507.4379 1247 VLD_int_01 1507.4774 Okay. 1507.8549 1248 VLD_int_01 1507.8549 (pause 0.20) 1508.0525 1249 VLD_int_01 1508.0525 So, you left Maryland, and went to New York? Or you left Maryland, came here [then went to New York?] 1511.6159 1250 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1510.7905 [I w- I left New] York- Okay, went to New York 1512.8188 1251 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1513.4819 and then went to Maryland. That's my te- cause Maryland was my last wife. I skipped one. 1516.7182 1252 VLD_int_01 1517.0247 Okay. 1517.3130 1253 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1517.7205 My first wife was my kids- oh god. We going way back. 1521.1237 1254 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1521.1237 (pause 1.67) 1522.7964 1255 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1522.7964 I'm skipping all over the place but [anyway.] 1524.6300 1256 VLD_int_01 1524.3930 [It's] alright. 1524.9900 1257 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1525.8857 My children's- I star- I got married to 1528.7701 1258 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1528.7701 (pause 0.58) 1529.3478 1259 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1529.3478 girl name /RD-NAME-2/, we still married. 1531.0907 1260 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1531.0907 (pause 1.32) 1532.4132 1261 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1532.4132 Man, this is crazy. 1533.3326 1262 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1533.3326 (pause 1.73) 1535.0668 1263 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1535.0668 We still married. 1535.9668 1264 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1535.9668 (pause 0.25) 1536.2214 1265 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1536.2214 We, uh, 1536.9941 1266 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1536.9941 (pause 0.61) 1537.6044 1267 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1537.6044 got three kid 1538.6028 1268 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1538.6028 (pause 0.61) 1539.2167 1269 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1539.2167 together. 1539.8243 1270 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1539.8243 (pause 2.88) 1542.7044 1271 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1542.7044 Um. 1543.3980 1272 VLD_int_01 1545.5565 Two boys, a girl? 1546.4697 1273 VLD_int_01 1546.4697 (pause 0.14) 1546.6146 1274 VLD_int_01 1546.6146 Two girls one boy? 1547.4400 1275 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1548.3444 Two boys, one girl. 1549.2604 1276 VLD_int_01 1549.2604 Mm-hm. 1549.5912 1277 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1551.5551 1551.6305 1278 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1551.6305 (pause 0.29) 1551.9253 1279 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1551.9253 She got on drug, went to prison. She killed a man, she went to prison, I had the kid. 1555.7932 1280 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1555.7932 (pause 0.71) 1556.5029 1281 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1556.5029 Raised the kids 1557.3238 1282 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1557.3238 (pause 1.62) 1558.9395 1283 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1558.9395 until they got about grown. 1560.4629 1284 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1560.4629 (pause 2.08) 1562.5380 1285 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1562.5380 And then, 1563.2360 1286 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1563.2360 (pause 2.11) 1565.3478 1287 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1565.3478 she- while she was in prison, 1566.5244 1288 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1566.5244 (pause 0.53) 1567.0556 1289 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1567.0556 and I had went to Florida, 1567.9892 1290 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1567.9892 (pause 0.65) 1568.6346 1291 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1568.6346 and the kids were about grown. 1569.5829 1292 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1569.5829 (pause 1.00) 1570.5839 1293 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1570.5839 I called myself filing for a divorce. 1572.2741 1294 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1572.2741 (pause 1.37) 1573.6439 1295 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1573.6439 So, I paid the man and 1574.7838 1296 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1574.7838 (pause 0.17) 1574.9551 1297 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1574.9551 he said, well, here's your papers, you divorced. 1576.8034 1298 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1576.8034 (pause 1.37) 1578.1775 1299 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1578.1775 That's when I came back 1579.3980 1300 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1579.3980 (pause 0.69) 1580.0902 1301 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1580.0902 and I met the girl doing plumbing from New York. 1582.1009 1302 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1582.1009 (pause 0.34) 1582.4434 1303 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1582.4434 [/RD-NAME-2/] 1582.9395 1304 VLD_int_01 1582.4868 [Mm-hm.] 1582.7626 1305 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1583.6068 God bless, she's dead now, god bless the dead, but. 1585.5078 1306 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1585.5078 (pause 1.87) 1587.3765 1307 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1587.3765 We got married and I moved- went to New York for a little while and 1590.7966 1308 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1590.7966 (pause 1.44) 1592.2351 1309 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1592.2351 we came back and 1593.3063 1310 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1593.3063 (pause 0.86) 1594.1624 1311 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1594.1624 and me and her 1595.0975 1312 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1595.0975 (pause 0.58) 1595.6770 1313 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1595.6770 and then the kids, they was still with me a little bit. 1598.2253 1314 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1598.2253 (pause 1.50) 1599.7234 1315 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1599.7234 And her and my daughter didn't get along, so 1602.2039 1316 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1602.2039 (pause 0.94) 1603.1390 1317 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1603.1390 anyway. 1603.6599 1318 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1603.6599 (pause 0.16) 1603.8236 1319 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1603.8236 Me and her got divorced. 1605.0375 1320 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1605.0375 (pause 2.03) 1607.0712 1321 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1607.0712 Then, I met the one from Maryland. 1608.7527 1322 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1608.7527 (pause 0.79) 1609.5458 1323 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1609.5458 And I met her in 1610.4019 1324 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1610.4019 (pause 0.57) 1610.9682 1325 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1610.9682 well, I moved to Maryland with her for a while. Then we got married up in Maryland. 1614.0985 1326 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1614.0985 (pause 0.79) 1614.8888 1327 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1614.8888 And 1615.3322 1328 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1615.3322 (pause 1.74) 1617.0724 1329 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1617.0724 she was a gold digger. 1617.9813 1330 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1617.9813 (pause 2.22) 1620.1969 1331 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1620.1969 And so I left her, 1621.4349 1332 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1621.4349 (pause 1.61) 1623.0418 1333 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1623.0418 came back home. 1623.8057 1334 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1623.8057 (pause 2.03) 1625.8325 1335 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1625.8325 Come to find out 1626.7193 1336 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1626.7193 (pause 0.63) 1627.3515 1337 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1627.3515 me and my wife was still married. 1628.6907 1338 VLD_int_01 1631.3862 Cause the papers was bogus. 1633.1057 1339 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1633.1320 Yeah. 1633.6501 1340 VLD_int_01 1634.2076 Mm. 1634.7037 1341 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1634.7784 And I didn't know it. 1635.7047 1342 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1635.7047 (pause 0.15) 1635.8510 1343 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1635.8510 Ain't by- we did, but 1636.9252 1344 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1636.9252 (pause 0.09) 1637.0130 1345 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1637.0130 all the other divorces was- 1638.2935 1346 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1638.2935 (pause 0.10) 1638.3901 1347 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1638.3901 is legal, so. 1639.2725 1348 VLD_int_01 1639.5403 Right. 1639.8696 1349 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1639.9626 But actually wasn't never married /to 'em/. 1641.3652 1350 VLD_int_01 1641.2893 R- [] 1642.7600 1351 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1641.6840 [] 1642.7820 1352 VLD_int_01 1643.1947 Right. 1643.5839 1353 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1643.8561 Crazy. 1644.5498 1354 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1644.5498 (pause 0.54) 1645.0898 1355 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1645.0898 Hey /RD-NAME-2/. 1646.2444 1356 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1646.2444 (pause 1.56) 1647.8073 1357 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1647.8073 1648.6722 1358 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1648.6722 (pause 1.00) 1649.6674 1359 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1649.6674 How you doing? 1650.2951 1360 VLD_int_01 1651.9239 You can say hey. 1652.9425 1361 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1653.6453 [] 1656.4532 1362 VLD_int_01 1654.2508 [] 1656.7404 1363 VLD_int_01 1657.1907 Oh, goodness. 1658.0424 1364 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1658.3322 Yeah, so. 1659.5264 1365 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1659.5264 (pause 0.43) 1659.9566 1366 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1659.9566 Basically, 1660.6722 1367 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1660.6722 (pause 1.98) 1662.6507 1368 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1662.6507 that's it, going up and down the east [coast on all of that,] so. 1665.2673 1369 VLD_int_01 1663.7223 [Coast. Mm-hm.] 1664.4818 1370 VLD_int_01 1665.6273 So, then you found out you was married, you came back here. 1667.8185 1371 VLD_int_01 1667.8185 (pause 0.84) 1668.6581 1372 VLD_int_01 1668.6581 I mean, you [found out you was still married.] 1670.0542 1373 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1669.1674 [Whe- when I got] here. 1670.3791 1374 VLD_int_01 1670.4888 When you got back. [Okay. How'd] you find out? 1672.3356 1375 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1671.2506 [Yeah.] 1671.6961 1376 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1672.7000 I went to the court house. I was going cause I said I got to check on this cause I got all 1676.6864 1377 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1676.6864 (pause 0.21) 1676.8928 1378 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1676.8928 the other two divorces. 1678.0645 1379 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1678.0645 (pause 0.44) 1678.5035 1380 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1678.5035 I said, I need my paperwork on 1679.7767 1381 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1679.7767 (pause 0.18) 1679.9567 1382 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1679.9567 my first [divorce with my wife.] So, when I got there, they said sir, 1683.2259 1383 VLD_int_01 1680.3399 [The first one, mm-hm.] 1681.4718 1384 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1683.9677 no, you don't have any papers, y- uh. 1685.4606 1385 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1685.4606 (pause 0.51) 1685.9746 1386 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1685.9746 You s- you and /RD-NAME-2/ still married. 1687.6473 1387 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1687.6473 (pause 1.33) 1688.9776 1388 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1688.9776 I said, okay. 1690.2404 1389 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1690.2404 (pause 0.59) 1690.8287 1390 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1690.8287 And I eased on out of [there.] 1692.3127 1391 VLD_int_01 1692.1283 [] 1693.9722 1392 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1692.6419 [] Hey, cause he 1694.8898 1393 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1695.3420 I couldn't say nothing about I been married 1697.3512 1394 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1697.3512 (pause 0.36) 1697.7068 1395 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1697.7068 twice. 1698.1634 1396 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1698.1634 (pause 1.02) 1699.1819 1397 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1699.1819 I ain't wanna get locked up. 1700.2224 1398 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1700.2224 (pause 1.23) 1701.4517 1399 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1701.4517 So, anyway. 1702.0473 1400 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1702.0473 (pause 0.50) 1702.5478 1401 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1702.5478 That's how I found out I was still married. 1703.9878 1402 VLD_int_01 1704.1458 Mm-hm. 1704.4839 1403 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1705.1512 And so. 1705.7966 1404 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1705.7966 (pause 1.44) 1707.2366 1405 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1707.2366 I ain't trying to get married no more. 1708.5899 1406 VLD_int_01 1708.8770 Mm. 1709.0263 1407 VLD_int_01 1709.0263 (pause 0.45) 1709.4741 1408 VLD_int_01 1709.4741 Mkay. You finished on that? 1710.8966 1409 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1710.9449 Yeah. I'm through on that. 1712.0863 1410 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1712.0863 (pause 0.20) 1712.2883 1411 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1712.2883 That's all I got to say about [that.] 1713.7283 1412 VLD_int_01 1713.6449 [So,] y'all still married now? 1714.7453 1413 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1714.8551 Yes. 1715.4214 1414 VLD_int_01 1715.4214 Okay. 1715.7683 1415 VLD_int_01 1715.7683 (pause 0.40) 1716.1722 1416 VLD_int_01 1716.1722 Okay. 1716.4400 1417 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1716.6683 Mm-hm. 1717.0854 1418 VLD_int_01 1717.5200 Alright, so, we'll move on to something [else.] 1719.1971 1419 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1719.0171 [Yes.] 1719.5088 1420 VLD_int_01 1719.5088 O- 1719.6273 1421 VLD_int_01 1719.6273 (pause 0.21) 1719.8337 1422 VLD_int_01 1719.8337 You 1720.2756 1423 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1720.4117 [] 1721.0790 1424 VLD_int_01 1720.4117 [now, you] brought all that [up.] 1721.8736 1425 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1721.7156 [I] had to [cause you started.] 1723.4498 1426 VLD_int_01 1722.4575 [Oh, cause you had to give me the] 1723.5332 1427 VLD_int_01 1723.6341 about the plumbing. 1724.2927 1428 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1724.3322 [Yes.] 1724.9205 1429 VLD_int_01 1724.8107 [Okay. So, let's move] back to the plumbing real quick. 1726.7359 1430 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1725.0685 [And that came.] 1725.5812 1431 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1726.7443 Ok- thank you. 1727.5817 1432 VLD_int_01 1728.0690 [] 1729.3071 1433 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1728.4212 [Yes ma'am.] 1729.0384 1434 VLD_int_01 1729.8822 So, tell me what had been like, think about 1731.8271 1435 VLD_int_01 1731.8271 (pause 0.22) 1732.0492 1436 VLD_int_01 1732.0492 I know you've done like a lot of plumbing jobs and stuff like that 1735.0330 1437 VLD_int_01 1735.0330 (pause 0.16) 1735.1911 1438 VLD_int_01 1735.1911 what's been the craziest 1736.9296 1439 VLD_int_01 1736.9296 (pause 0.63) 1737.5618 1440 VLD_int_01 1737.5618 job you ever had to do? 1738.7911 1441 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1741.0989 Mm. 1741.4852 1442 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1741.4852 (pause 3.10) 1744.5880 1443 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1744.5880 Should I say it? 1745.2465 1444 VLD_int_01 1745.8612 [Say it.] 1746.1421 1445 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1745.9578 [Ye-] Yeah I'll say it, okay. 1747.3319 1446 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1747.8821 I crawl up under the house and a bunch of mess, /fleces/ and all this other stuff and all that, but- 1751.6212 1447 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1751.6212 (pause 1.10) 1752.7173 1448 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1752.7173 but, see, you charge enough to make you wanna do it. 1754.7236 1449 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1754.7236 (pause 1.40) 1756.1285 1450 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1756.1285 So, 1756.6641 1451 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1756.6641 (pause 0.87) 1757.5319 1452 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1757.5319 I told the lady six hundred dollars. 1759.0861 1453 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1759.0861 (pause 1.20) 1760.2890 1454 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1760.2890 But, God is good. He'll put a ram in the bush for you. 1762.2822 1455 VLD_int_01 1762.5456 Mm-hm. 1763.0285 1456 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1763.9095 So, 1764.4187 1457 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1764.4187 (pause 0.60) 1765.0216 1458 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1765.0216 I looked under there, I see- had- it's a trailer. 1767.4173 1459 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1767.4173 (pause 1.06) 1768.4754 1460 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1768.4754 And it had the pipe came a-loose and it was like a big swimming pool of /fleces/ and mess, all this stuff, tissues, blah, blah, blah, blah. 1774.4446 1461 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1774.4446 (pause 1.25) 1775.6959 1462 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1775.6959 I 1776.1553 1463 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1776.1553 (pause 1.10) 1777.2529 1464 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1777.2529 strapped up, put my /rubbers/ on, everything on, mask, 1780.3480 1465 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1780.3480 (pause 0.09) 1780.4359 1466 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1780.4359 gloves. 1780.9846 1467 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1780.9846 (pause 1.03) 1782.0148 1468 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1782.0148 uh. 1782.3836 1469 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1782.3836 (pause 0.23) 1782.6163 1470 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1782.6163 Everything. Got some bleach. 1784.1836 1471 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1784.1836 (pause 1.37) 1785.5490 1472 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1785.5490 And, uh, 1786.1022 1473 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1786.1022 (pause 0.29) 1786.3920 1474 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1786.3920 first of all, I- I told her, I say, uh, 1788.3002 1475 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1788.3002 (pause 0.40) 1788.6997 1476 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1788.6997 I can fix it, I can come back, 1790.2495 1477 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1790.2495 (pause 0.08) 1790.3329 1478 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1790.3329 let it dry up and c- and come. She said no, I need it fixed today. 1793.5510 1479 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1793.5510 (pause 1.39) 1794.9456 1480 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1794.9456 So, I say, well, 1795.8324 1481 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1795.8324 (pause 0.72) 1796.5480 1482 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1796.5480 uh, 1796.9256 1483 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1796.9256 (pause 0.23) 1797.1539 1484 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1797.1539 it gonna cost you about six hundred dollars. 1798.5851 1485 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1798.5851 (pause 0.49) 1799.0768 1486 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1799.0768 She say, fix it. 1799.8100 1487 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1799.8100 (pause 0.77) 1800.5768 1488 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1800.5768 I said, oh damn. 1801.7973 1489 VLD_int_01 1802.5612 [] 1804.4710 1490 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1802.9168 [Okay.] 1803.5754 1491 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1804.6669 So that's when I did all that suiting up and everything and I said, now, I sure don't wanna crawl in all this mess. 1809.5271 1492 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1809.5271 (pause 1.08) 1810.6027 1493 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1810.6027 But that's six hundred dollars, saying want more need more. 1812.7217 1494 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1812.7217 (pause 1.49) 1814.2100 1495 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1814.2100 And that's when the lord ge- put the ram in he bush. I said, w- 1816.4007 1496 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1816.4007 (pause 0.80) 1817.1998 1497 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1817.1998 who little swimming pool that is over there in the corner? It's a little small little kid's swimming pool. She say, you can have it. Use it if you wanna. 1822.6554 1498 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1822.6554 (pause 1.12) 1823.7749 1499 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1823.7749 So, I got it, put the two bottles of bleach in there, and I 1826.2627 1500 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1826.2627 (pause 0.77) 1827.0354 1501 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1827.0354 pushed it all the way up 1827.8432 1502 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1827.8432 (pause 0.36) 1828.1988 1503 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1828.1988 until it got to all that sludge. 1829.8407 1504 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1829.8407 (pause 0.75) 1830.5943 1505 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1830.5943 I got in there with my shovel like I'm on a- on a boat 1832.8729 1506 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1832.8729 (pause 0.10) 1832.9739 1507 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1832.9739 and just scooted up under here, 1834.5983 1508 VLD_int_01 1834.8398 1835.1383 1509 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1835.1383 slinging bleach. 1836.0209 1510 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1836.4862 I got right up to the pipe, 1837.5838 1511 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1837.5838 (pause 0.99) 1838.5788 1512 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1838.5788 s- wired it up, 1839.3559 1513 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1839.3559 (pause 0.34) 1839.6939 1514 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1839.6939 put it back together, glued it up. 1841.0706 1515 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1841.0706 (pause 0.08) 1841.1496 1516 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1841.1496 Wired it back up under the hou- under the trailer. 1843.1867 1517 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1843.1867 (pause 0.85) 1844.0346 1518 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1844.0346 1844.1340 1519 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1844.1340 (pause 0.50) 1844.6384 1520 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1844.6384 Backed up out of there, throw on some more bleach, 1846.3287 1521 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1846.3287 (pause 0.09) 1846.4165 1522 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1846.4165 and I told her, I said, go flush the toilet three times with toilet paper. 1848.8223 1523 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1848.8223 (pause 0.98) 1849.8058 1524 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1849.8058 I'm looking at it with the flashlight, 1851.0643 1525 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1851.0643 (pause 0.13) 1851.1916 1526 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1851.1916 and she did it and 1852.3813 1527 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1852.3813 (pause 1.17) 1853.5492 1528 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1853.5492 no leaks. 1854.2560 1529 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1854.2560 (pause 0.36) 1854.6116 1530 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1854.6116 I said, now go get my cash. 1856.0297 1531 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1856.0297 (pause 1.93) 1857.9643 1532 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1857.9643 She said, check or ca- I said cash. 1859.6809 1533 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1859.6809 (pause 0.31) 1859.9926 1534 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1859.9926 I don't want no check. 1860.7477 1535 VLD_int_01 1861.1077 [] 1861.8848 1536 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1861.7355 [So,] 1862.1467 1537 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1862.7350 she went and got me six hundred dollars. 1864.1091 1538 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1864.1091 (pause 1.55) 1865.6637 1539 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1865.6637 Now, another crazy one we had. (laughing) 1867.3364 1540 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1867.3364 (pause 1.27) 1868.6080 1541 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1868.6080 It was easy. 1869.3763 1542 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1869.3763 (pause 0.68) 1870.0568 1543 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1870.0568 We was gonna do this job for the lady free. 1871.8481 1544 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1871.8481 (pause 1.68) 1873.5251 1545 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1873.5251 Wasn't getting the hot and cold water coming out of the 1875.9383 1546 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1875.9383 (pause 0.17) 1876.1095 1547 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1876.1095 kitchen sink, so it's- 1877.2115 1548 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1877.2115 (pause 0.07) 1877.2773 1549 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1877.2773 we already- we know it's the aerator. 1878.6734 1550 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1878.6734 (pause 0.50) 1879.1739 1551 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1879.1739 Screw the top off, and 1880.3373 1552 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1880.3373 (pause 0.23) 1880.5700 1553 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1880.5700 a little cap off the front, 1881.5827 1554 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1881.5827 (pause 0.29) 1881.8724 1555 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1881.8724 and the water come out, had a little piece of rust in there. 1883.7690 1556 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1883.7690 (pause 1.26) 1885.0247 1557 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1885.0247 We gets to the house, she say, 1886.4559 1558 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1886.4559 (pause 0.24) 1886.6958 1559 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1886.6958 it's about time for y'all to get here. 1888.4212 1560 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1888.4212 (pause 0.28) 1888.6978 1561 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1888.6978 Y'all probably out somewhere drinking. 1890.0193 1562 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1890.0193 (pause 0.33) 1890.3485 1563 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1890.3485 You're ju- I've got to get my kitchen, I need to do these greens. 1892.9505 1564 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1892.9505 (pause 0.26) 1893.2139 1565 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1893.2139 And y'all up there playing, cussing us out. 1895.0929 1566 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1895.0929 (pause 1.08) 1896.1729 1567 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1896.1729 /RD-NAME-2/ say, 1896.8578 1568 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1896.8578 (pause 0.62) 1897.4769 1569 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1897.4769 /RD-NAME-2/, I'm'a show you something. 1898.8758 1570 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1898.8758 (pause 0.57) 1899.4422 1571 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1899.4422 People like this one here, this when you get paid. 1901.2817 1572 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1901.2817 (pause 1.25) 1902.5285 1573 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1902.5285 He screwed the thing off, he showed me how the water come out, I said, that's it? 1905.3588 1574 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1905.3588 (pause 0.18) 1905.5388 1575 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1905.5388 He said, yeah. 1906.3115 1576 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1906.3115 (pause 0.97) 1907.2861 1577 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1907.2861 He said, but watch this. I want you to go outside. 1909.4461 1578 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1909.4461 (pause 0.77) 1910.2188 1579 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1910.2188 I'm'a beat on the pipes, 1911.3588 1580 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1911.3588 (pause 0.79) 1912.1490 1581 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1912.1490 and you- and I'm'a ask you, do you see it? And you say, 1914.2827 1582 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1914.2827 (pause 0.36) 1914.6427 1583 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1914.6427 No. 1915.0071 1584 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1915.0071 (pause 1.02) 1916.0300 1585 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1916.0300 So, I'm outside, she in there, 1917.5080 1586 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1917.5080 (pause 0.87) 1918.3817 1587 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1918.3817 he beating on the pipe, 1919.3915 1588 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1919.3915 (pause 0.63) 1920.0193 1589 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1920.0193 he said, do you see it? 1920.9939 1590 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1920.9939 (pause 0.10) 1921.0949 1591 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1921.0949 I said, no! 1921.9773 1592 VLD_int_01 1922.1661 1922.9505 1593 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1923.1831 He say, 1923.6529 1594 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1923.6529 (pause 0.29) 1923.9383 1595 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1923.9383 come on in. 1924.6846 1596 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1924.6846 (pause 0.96) 1925.6461 1597 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1925.6461 I came inside, 1926.6392 1598 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1926.6392 (pause 1.62) 1928.2568 1599 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1928.2568 he say- we say, well 1929.0163 1600 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1929.0163 (pause 0.37) 1929.3851 1601 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1929.3851 ma'am, 1929.7890 1602 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1929.7890 (pause 0.18) 1929.9734 1603 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1929.9734 we got to go get some parts. 1931.2334 1604 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1931.2334 (pause 0.29) 1931.5188 1605 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1931.5188 We'll be back. 1932.1773 1606 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1932.1773 (pause 0.57) 1932.7481 1607 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1932.7481 Well, hurry up! Y'all go get it and come on back, I got to get my kitchen ready. 1935.8812 1608 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1935.8812 (pause 1.09) 1936.9744 1609 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1936.9744 Yes ma'am. 1937.5188 1610 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1937.5188 (pause 0.22) 1937.7383 1611 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1937.7383 We went and did another job. 1939.0159 1612 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1939.0159 (pause 1.65) 1940.6651 1613 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1940.6651 The other job's out, we came back 1942.0206 1614 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1942.0206 (pause 0.90) 1942.9206 1615 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1942.9206 he'd say, well 1943.6231 1616 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1943.6231 (pause 0.51) 1944.1367 1617 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1944.1367 /RD-NAME-2/, go out there and see, do you see it. 1945.6075 1618 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1945.6075 (pause 1.03) 1946.6398 1619 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1946.6398 He beating on the pipes again. 1948.0799 1620 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1948.0799 (pause 0.16) 1948.2403 1621 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1948.2403 Just making noise in there so she could thinks we really working. 1950.7404 1622 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1950.7404 (pause 1.69) 1952.4268 1623 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1952.4268 You see it? I say, no! 1953.8536 1624 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1953.8536 (pause 1.09) 1954.9453 1625 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1954.9453 He'd said, come one back in. 1956.2975 1626 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1956.2975 (pause 0.70) 1956.9999 1627 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1956.9999 Come back in, 1957.8034 1628 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1957.8034 (pause 0.69) 1958.4926 1629 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1958.4926 said, ma'am, it's rough in here. 1959.7658 1630 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1959.7658 (pause 0.45) 1960.2136 1631 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1960.2136 We got to get some more parts, but uh, we'll be back again. 1963.1799 1632 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1963.1799 (pause 0.16) 1963.3380 1633 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1963.3380 Hold on. 1963.8604 1634 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1963.8604 (pause 0.52) 1964.3829 1635 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1964.3829 Said, y'all need to hurry up. 1965.3751 1636 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1965.3751 (pause 0.10) 1965.4761 1637 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1965.4761 She just started cussing us out. 1966.7916 1638 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1966.7916 (pause 1.28) 1968.0736 1639 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1968.0736 This time, we went and got drunk us a couple of beers. 1970.1853 1640 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1970.1853 (pause 0.77) 1970.9580 1641 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1970.9580 Sit down under the tree. 1972.1390 1642 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1972.1390 (pause 0.87) 1973.0111 1643 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1973.0111 Chill out. 1973.5248 1644 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1973.5248 (pause 1.01) 1974.5302 1645 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1974.5302 Now, 1975.0175 1646 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1975.0175 (pause 1.04) 1976.0602 1647 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1976.0602 we went back to the job, 1977.3509 1648 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1977.3509 (pause 1.55) 1978.9007 1649 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1978.9007 and this time, he just screwed it back on. 1980.4446 1650 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1980.4446 (pause 0.68) 1981.1251 1651 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1981.1251 You know. 1981.4763 1652 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1981.4763 (pause 1.38) 1982.8548 1653 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1982.8548 He said, you see anything? I say, yeah! 1984.6856 1654 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1984.6856 (pause 0.16) 1984.8436 1655 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1984.8436 1985.3661 1656 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1985.3661 (pause 0.61) 1985.9748 1657 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1985.9748 So he said, come in. 1987.0680 1658 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1987.0680 (pause 0.52) 1987.5904 1659 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1987.5904 I came in, 1988.4290 1660 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1988.4290 (pause 0.80) 1989.2324 1661 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1989.2324 he said, ma'am, it were rough. 1990.4178 1662 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1990.4178 (pause 0.14) 1990.5627 1663 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1990.5627 But we got you straight. 1991.4539 1664 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1991.4539 (pause 0.61) 1992.0626 1665 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1992.0626 Come in here and check your water. 1993.1558 1666 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1993.1558 (pause 1.24) 1994.3982 1667 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1994.3982 Came in there, she turned on. 1995.3378 1668 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1995.3378 (pause 0.21) 1995.5485 1669 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1995.5485 It's about time for y'all so and so's to get through. 1997.5900 1670 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1997.5900 (pause 0.41) 1997.9968 1671 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1997.9968 How much you owe me? 1998.7475 1672 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1998.7475 (pause 0.25) 1999.0018 1673 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1999.0018 He said three fifty. 1999.9592 1674 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 1999.9592 (pause 1.24) 2001.1973 1675 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2001.1973 2001.6670 1676 VLD_int_01 2002.0490 Cause you was gonna do it for free. 2003.1553 1677 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2003.3793 Yes. 2003.8255 1678 VLD_int_01 2003.8255 Couldn't be [n-] 2004.5675 1679 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2004.4182 [But she] cussing us out. 2005.4499 1680 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2006.2885 Talking about we sorry so and so's and 2008.2114 1681 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2008.2114 (pause 0.32) 2008.5319 1682 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2008.5319 you probably somewhere drinking so we had us a couple of beers, cause she said that. 2012.0075 1683 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2012.0075 (pause 0.35) 2012.3563 1684 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2012.3563 We were gonna do it for free. 2013.3685 1685 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2013.3685 (pause 0.57) 2013.9392 1686 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2013.9392 So, he charged her three fifty. We split it. 2015.7729 1687 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2015.7729 (pause 1.62) 2017.3929 1688 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2017.3929 R- that's what happened when people 2018.7934 1689 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2018.7934 (pause 0.85) 2019.6407 1690 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2019.6407 I mean, not only us why- 2020.6285 1691 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2020.6285 (pause 0.09) 2020.7163 1692 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2020.7163 r- other- other folk do it too. 2022.0977 1693 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2022.0977 (pause 1.65) 2023.7441 1694 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2023.7441 But. 2024.1129 1695 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2024.1129 (pause 1.71) 2025.8207 1696 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2025.8207 N- check- that's- that's like I said, [craziest.] 2028.4103 1697 VLD_int_01 2028.1188 [Mm.] 2028.3104 1698 VLD_int_01 2028.4813 Mm-hm. 2028.9761 1699 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2029.5224 And 2029.9965 1700 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2029.9965 (pause 0.43) 2030.4268 1701 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2030.4268 it just a lot of stuff I done went through. Went under houses, done seen snakes. 2033.7722 1702 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2033.7722 (pause 0.51) 2034.2815 1703 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2034.2815 Only thing I'm scared of is spiders, though. 2035.7578 1704 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2035.7578 (pause 2.48) 2038.2385 1705 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2038.2385 Can't stand them. 2039.1164 1706 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2039.1164 (pause 3.04) 2042.1595 1707 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2042.1595 I had to bust a hole in the side of a house 2044.1819 1708 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2044.1819 (pause 0.61) 2044.7966 1709 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2044.7966 to crawl up under there. 2045.7537 1710 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2045.7537 (pause 0.19) 2045.9468 1711 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2045.9468 A brick wall. 2046.7533 1712 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2046.7533 (pause 0.15) 2046.9042 1713 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2046.9042 Got to break the brick wall to 2048.1069 1714 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2048.1069 (pause 0.16) 2048.2693 1715 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2048.2693 get up under there. 2049.0464 1716 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2049.0464 (pause 1.18) 2050.2302 1717 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2050.2302 And after all this 2051.3146 1718 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2051.3146 (pause 0.23) 2051.5429 1719 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2051.5429 breaking these bricks, you would think 2053.2639 1720 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2053.2639 (pause 0.22) 2053.4878 1721 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2053.4878 all the noise and the 2054.4914 1722 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2054.4914 (pause 0.09) 2054.5805 1723 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2054.5805 dust that I'm making s- 2055.6463 1724 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2055.6463 (pause 0.21) 2055.8571 1725 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2055.8571 if anything's under there, they'll be gone. 2057.3497 1726 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2057.3497 (pause 1.25) 2058.5966 1727 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2058.5966 So, all the- when I got the hole big enough to look under there, 2061.0815 1728 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2061.0815 (pause 0.81) 2061.8893 1729 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2061.8893 I seen a spider about big as my hand. 2063.7098 1730 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2063.7098 (pause 1.10) 2064.8073 1731 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2064.8073 I told the people, I said look, I'll- I- I'll be back. 2067.0727 1732 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2067.0727 (pause 0.86) 2067.9332 1733 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2067.9332 Go get- I went and got about five bombs 2070.0127 1734 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2070.0127 (pause 0.72) 2070.7327 1735 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2070.7327 and threw up under the house and 2072.0586 1736 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2072.0586 (pause 0.12) 2072.1815 1737 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2072.1815 told them I'd be back tomorrow. 2073.3449 1738 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2073.3449 (pause 1.59) 2074.9307 1739 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2074.9307 Man that was crazy, see that spider still sitting there after you done did all this beating on the wall. 2078.8378 1740 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2078.8378 (pause 0.96) 2079.8022 1741 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2079.8022 And he ain't ran no where. 2080.8734 1742 VLD_int_01 2080.8924 2081.1839 1743 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2081.1588 Like he's sitting there waiting on you. 2082.5066 1744 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2084.4120 And so, 2084.9652 1745 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2084.9652 (pause 0.23) 2085.1919 1746 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2085.1919 that was crazy. 2086.1051 1747 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2086.1051 (pause 2.23) 2088.3354 1748 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2088.3354 And. Shoot. It just 2089.9466 1749 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2089.9466 (pause 0.58) 2090.5261 1750 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2090.5261 you just run into a lot of things doing plumbing, especially um- up under them houses. 2093.9183 1751 VLD_int_01 2094.2407 Mm-hm. 2094.5513 1752 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2094.5022 I think that why I like it, it's interesting. I might come pot o- 2096.8773 1753 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2097.1276 pot of gold one day under one of them, I hope. 2099.0754 1754 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2099.0754 (pause 2.00) 2101.0729 1755 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2101.0729 And then I'll retire. 2101.9466 1756 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2101.9466 (pause 0.15) 2102.0959 1757 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2102.0959 Semi retired now. 2103.1276 1758 VLD_int_01 2103.2374 2104.5836 1759 VLD_int_01 2104.5836 (pause 0.35) 2104.9349 1760 VLD_int_01 2104.9349 So, tell me about- 2105.8393 1761 VLD_int_01 2105.8393 (pause 0.51) 2106.3529 1762 VLD_int_01 2106.3529 tell me about your family. Not just your- 2108.2320 1763 VLD_int_01 2108.2320 (pause 0.13) 2108.3593 1764 VLD_int_01 2108.3593 your kids, but like your family in Valdosta. Like, did y'all have family traditions? Did y'all go to church together? 2113.2398 1765 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2113.5251 Oh, of co- every day. 2114.5832 1766 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2114.5832 (pause 0.44) 2115.0222 1767 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2115.0222 And night. 2115.6178 1768 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2115.6178 (pause 0.83) 2116.4475 1769 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2116.4475 Church 2116.9919 1770 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2116.9919 (pause 1.06) 2118.0500 1771 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2118.0500 day 2118.4276 1772 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2118.4276 (pause 1.13) 2119.5603 1773 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2119.5603 church at night 2120.3637 1774 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2120.3637 (pause 0.82) 2121.1803 1775 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2121.1803 on Sundays. 2121.9915 1776 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2121.9915 (pause 1.05) 2123.0402 1777 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2123.0402 Wednesday, 2123.9183 1778 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2123.9183 (pause 0.15) 2124.0676 1779 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2124.0676 bible study. 2124.8095 1780 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2124.8095 (pause 2.58) 2127.3910 1781 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2127.3910 Um. 2128.3290 1782 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2128.3290 (pause 1.25) 2129.5808 1783 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2129.5808 Yeah, well our family, we had a good tradition. Christmas, we all got together, 2133.0178 1784 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2133.0178 (pause 0.98) 2133.9928 1785 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2133.9928 Uh, we used to go 2134.9967 1786 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2134.9967 (pause 0.40) 2135.3918 1787 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2135.3918 get together for family reunions in Jacksonville. Used to go to the beach. 2138.9743 1788 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2138.9743 (pause 0.76) 2139.7382 1789 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2139.7382 That was fun. 2140.5972 1790 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2140.5972 (pause 0.11) 2140.7069 1791 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2140.7069 You know, we likeded that because everybody 2142.6913 1792 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2142.6913 (pause 0.08) 2142.7748 1793 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2142.7748 got- 2143.0557 1794 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2143.0557 (pause 0.47) 2143.5299 1795 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2143.5299 made food, and we all went to the beach, 2145.4441 1796 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2145.4441 (pause 0.45) 2145.8963 1797 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2145.8963 got together 2146.6674 1798 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2146.6674 (pause 0.77) 2147.4401 1799 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2147.4401 prayed, do all that. Go to 2148.8450 1800 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2148.8450 (pause 0.21) 2149.0557 1801 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2149.0557 play in the water 2149.8021 1802 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2149.8021 (pause 0.37) 2150.1709 1803 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2150.1709 Get to know everybody. 2151.1060 1804 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2151.1060 (pause 0.75) 2151.8567 1805 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2151.8567 And then, 2152.4758 1806 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2152.4758 (pause 0.85) 2153.3263 1807 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2153.3263 it got crazy because, hey, everybody want- it's all about money now. 2156.5488 1808 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2156.5488 (pause 1.94) 2158.4849 1809 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2158.4849 This much for a family, this much for a shirt. 2160.7795 1810 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2160.7795 (pause 0.20) 2160.9815 1811 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2160.9815 This much for this and that. 2162.1317 1812 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2162.1317 (pause 0.43) 2162.5620 1813 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2162.5620 Where the extra money go at? 2163.5805 1814 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2163.5805 (pause 0.23) 2163.8132 1815 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2163.8132 Somebody tell me that. 2164.6210 1816 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2164.6210 (pause 1.34) 2165.9585 1817 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2165.9585 All these people spending all this money, 2167.4117 1818 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2167.4117 (pause 1.62) 2169.0361 1819 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2169.0361 and it- I know it's gonna be something extra. 2170.6913 1820 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2170.6913 (pause 1.28) 2171.9717 1821 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2171.9717 I just stopped going. 2172.9771 1822 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2172.9771 (pause 1.67) 2174.6498 1823 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2174.6498 So, you know, now they doing the Facebook 2176.6302 1824 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2176.6302 (pause 0.12) 2176.7537 1825 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2176.7537 stuff and all that. So, 2177.7357 1826 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2177.7357 (pause 0.75) 2178.4821 1827 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2178.4821 I don't do that. 2179.3338 1828 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2179.3338 (pause 1.58) 2180.9159 1829 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2180.9159 But, we- our family traditions, got together on Christmas, everybody get together, but then, when we got married, 2186.3364 1830 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2186.3364 (pause 0.75) 2187.0828 1831 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2187.0828 people started venturing off. You know, you ma- i- 2189.0393 1832 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2189.0393 (pause 0.60) 2189.6390 1833 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2189.6390 you didn't gather up anymore. 2190.8876 1834 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2190.8876 (pause 0.56) 2191.4496 1835 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2191.4496 You got a different family, you got to go with them. 2193.5481 1836 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2193.5481 (pause 0.36) 2193.9081 1837 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2193.9081 Go with them, but then you'll stop by 2195.6364 1838 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2195.6364 (pause 0.79) 2196.4222 1839 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2196.4222 later on and say hey. 2197.4935 1840 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2197.4935 (pause 0.87) 2198.3628 1841 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2198.3628 You know. But, 2199.0915 1842 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2199.0915 (pause 0.24) 2199.3286 1843 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2199.3286 family still stick together. 2200.6325 1844 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2200.6325 (pause 1.97) 2202.6066 1845 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2202.6066 Um. 2203.0149 1846 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2203.0149 (pause 0.59) 2203.6032 1847 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2203.6032 What else? 2204.0818 1848 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2204.0818 (pause 1.24) 2205.3242 1849 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2205.3242 2205.4515 1850 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2205.4515 (pause 0.43) 2205.8774 1851 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2205.8774 Oh, I got two families too. I forgot. 2207.7374 1852 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2207.7374 (pause 0.13) 2207.8691 1853 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2207.8691 Yeah. 2208.1457 1854 VLD_int_01 2208.3959 Mm-hm. 2208.6901 1855 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2208.7822 [Yeah.] 2209.2740 1856 VLD_int_01 2208.7866 [Oh. Yep.] That's what we did. Yep. Tell me about that. 2210.9467 1857 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2211.3637 Yeah, I never did meet- 2212.8477 1858 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2212.8477 (pause 0.13) 2212.9822 1859 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2212.9822 I met my m- 2213.7198 1860 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2213.7198 (pause 0.58) 2214.2993 1861 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2214.2993 uh, 2214.7515 1862 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2214.7515 (pause 0.11) 2214.8613 1863 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2214.8613 biological mother when I was twenty-one. 2216.9862 1864 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2216.9862 (pause 1.84) 2218.8261 1865 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2218.8261 And that was crazy. 2219.8007 1866 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2219.8007 (pause 0.83) 2220.6261 1867 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2220.6261 Enjoyable 2221.3089 1868 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2221.3089 (pause 0.10) 2221.4099 1869 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2221.4099 and 2221.7567 1870 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2221.7567 (pause 0.15) 2221.9104 1871 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2221.9104 scary. 2222.7489 1872 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2222.7489 (pause 1.76) 2224.5138 1873 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2224.5138 Uh. I went to this 2225.6553 1874 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2225.6553 (pause 0.33) 2225.9889 1875 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2225.9889 job corps, Summersville, Kentucky 2227.6002 1876 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2227.6002 (pause 1.60) 2229.1967 1877 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2229.1967 I had two birth certificates. 2230.6236 1878 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2230.6236 (pause 1.26) 2231.8880 1879 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2231.8880 And 2232.5158 1880 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2232.5158 (pause 0.41) 2232.9285 1881 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2232.9285 when I got there, it was so- it was not- I was like 2235.0518 1882 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2235.0518 (pause 0.40) 2235.4486 1883 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2235.4486 I went /unintelligible/ in job corps, and 2237.1636 1884 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2237.1636 (pause 0.86) 2238.0212 1885 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2238.0212 I met this little girl again. There we go again, no [women, all women, /such and such/.] 2241.4074 1886 VLD_int_01 2240.2534 [Hm.] 2240.4685 1887 VLD_int_01 2240.4685 (pause 0.13) 2240.5952 1888 VLD_int_01 2240.5952 [Mm-hm] 2241.4074 1889 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2241.7543 So, we's talking. 2242.5577 1890 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2242.5577 (pause 1.11) 2243.6719 1891 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2243.6719 And the lady called me to the desk. She say, 2245.6343 1892 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2245.6343 (pause 0.07) 2245.7046 1893 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2245.7046 cause me and her like, okay. Y- yo man, you gonna be together. A- yeah, yeah, yeah. 2248.9095 1894 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2248.9095 (pause 0.99) 2249.8977 1895 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2249.8977 She called me to the desk, she say, Mr. /RD-NAME-4/, come to the desk, I get there, she say, 2253.9323 1896 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2253.9323 (pause 0.98) 2254.9098 1897 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2254.9098 we got a problem. I say, what's wrong? She said, what's your mother's name? 2257.7723 1898 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2257.7723 (pause 1.00) 2258.7689 1899 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2258.7689 I say /RD-NAME-3/. 2259.8050 1900 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2259.8050 (pause 0.28) 2260.0816 1901 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2260.0816 They say, what's your father name? I say /RD-NAME-3/. 2262.8767 1902 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2262.8767 (pause 1.15) 2264.0269 1903 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2264.0269 She said, yeah, but you got a original birth certificate says that your mother name is /RD-NAME-7/. 2268.5738 1904 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2268.5738 (pause 1.12) 2269.6889 1905 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2269.6889 I said, I don't know her. 2270.6240 1906 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2270.6240 (pause 1.32) 2271.9411 1907 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2271.9411 She said, and plus, it says that you're a year older, so you won't be able to be here. 2276.1235 1908 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2276.1235 (pause 0.58) 2276.6987 1909 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2276.6987 We got to send you back home. 2277.7699 1910 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2277.7699 (pause 1.61) 2279.3796 1911 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2279.3796 I say what 2280.2752 1912 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2280.2752 (pause 1.40) 2281.6713 1913 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2281.6713 the hell going on? 2282.2904 1914 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2282.2904 (pause 1.17) 2283.4626 1915 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2283.4626 Look back at the girl, I said, damn I need to stay. (laughing) 2285.9811 1916 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2285.9811 (pause 0.49) 2286.4728 1917 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2286.4728 But, 2286.8240 1918 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2286.8240 (pause 0.29) 2287.1182 1919 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2287.1182 I had to go home. 2287.8118 1920 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2287.8118 (pause 0.74) 2288.5538 1921 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2288.5538 I called mom, 2289.6865 1922 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2289.6865 (pause 0.47) 2290.1518 1923 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2290.1518 she said 2290.7254 1924 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2290.7254 (pause 0.64) 2291.3620 1925 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2291.3620 uh, 2291.8669 1926 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2291.8669 (pause 0.77) 2292.6352 1927 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2292.6352 they gonna send you home? I said, yes ma'am. 2294.3387 1928 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2294.3387 (pause 0.88) 2295.2211 1929 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2295.2211 Said, I'll tell you about it when you get here. 2296.6289 1930 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2296.6289 (pause 1.09) 2297.7220 1931 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2297.7220 Alright. 2298.1435 1932 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2298.1435 (pause 0.14) 2298.2840 1933 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2298.2840 I gets back to Valdosta, they done made arrangement for me to meet my mother. 2301.9718 1934 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2301.9718 (pause 1.59) 2303.5659 1935 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2303.5659 Okay. 2304.1673 1936 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2304.1673 (pause 0.10) 2304.2683 1937 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2304.2683 /RD-NAME-7/, okay, so, 2306.4663 1938 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2306.4663 (pause 0.83) 2307.2917 1939 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2307.2917 I get to meet her, and 2308.7756 1940 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2308.7756 (pause 0.21) 2308.9875 1941 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2308.9875 But she- she was taking s- a while. Guess she getting herself ready to meet me too, you know, cause it's 2313.4509 1942 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2313.4509 (pause 0.51) 2313.9645 1943 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2313.9645 I had- in my first time, really. 2315.4484 1944 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2315.4484 (pause 0.21) 2315.6592 1945 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2315.6592 She used to come and see me when I was smaller, they told me, but 2317.9582 1946 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2317.9582 (pause 0.28) 2318.2347 1947 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2318.2347 I didn't know who she was, [so.] 2319.5870 1948 VLD_int_01 2319.4069 [Mm-hm.] 2319.8152 1949 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2320.7504 So, I guess she was getting a- 2321.8990 1950 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2321.8990 (pause 0.48) 2322.3792 1951 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2322.3792 prepared to see me, so I'm looking around at all the pictures in the house, 2325.5211 1952 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2325.5211 (pause 1.72) 2327.2421 1953 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2327.2421 and I'm like 2327.7645 1954 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2327.7645 (pause 0.67) 2328.4362 1955 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2328.4362 okay, I know them, I- 2330.0021 1956 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2330.0021 (pause 0.09) 2330.0899 1957 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2330.0899 I know her. 2330.9547 1958 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2330.9547 (pause 1.55) 2332.5045 1959 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2332.5045 Now, who is that? Who is that? 2333.9665 1960 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2333.9665 (pause 0.76) 2334.7260 1961 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2334.7260 So, when she finally came in the room, I- 2336.6123 1962 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2336.6123 (pause 0.21) 2336.8186 1963 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2336.8186 I gave her a hug and 2337.8284 1964 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2337.8284 (pause 0.67) 2338.5001 1965 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2338.5001 talked a little bit, aksed some questions, and this and that, and so. 2341.1986 1966 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2341.1986 (pause 1.03) 2342.2260 1967 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2342.2260 I got straight to the pictures. I say, we- well- wh- who- who is this? 2345.5011 1968 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2345.5011 (pause 0.75) 2346.2475 1969 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2346.2475 Well, that's your brother /RD-NAME-1/. 2347.4752 1970 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2347.4752 (pause 0.48) 2347.9582 1971 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2347.9582 Well who is that? 2348.8055 1972 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2348.8055 (pause 0.58) 2349.3894 1973 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2349.3894 That's your sister /RD-NAME-2/. 2350.6714 1974 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2350.6714 (pause 0.35) 2351.0182 1975 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2351.0182 Your sister, um, 2352.1392 1976 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2352.1392 (pause 0.91) 2353.0512 1977 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2353.0512 god, what her name? 2353.7713 1978 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2353.7713 (pause 1.20) 2354.9742 1979 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2354.9742 Allo- uh, 2355.6810 1980 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2355.6810 (pause 0.24) 2355.9181 1981 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2355.9181 /RD-NAME-2/ 2356.5312 1982 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2356.5312 (pause 0.97) 2357.5015 1983 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2357.5015 Can't think of my other sister name cause I hadn't been around, so. 2360.2937 1984 VLD_int_01 2360.3026 Mm. 2360.5483 1985 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2360.9479 I said, well who is this lady right here? 2362.5020 1986 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2362.5020 (pause 0.92) 2363.4268 1987 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2363.4268 Oh, that's your brother wife. 2364.4937 1988 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2364.4937 (pause 0.45) 2364.9415 1989 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2364.9415 I said, oh thank god. 2366.0917 1990 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2366.0917 (pause 0.09) 2366.1839 1991 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2366.1839 Cause I had been with her. 2367.2595 1992 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2367.2595 (pause 1.01) 2368.2705 1993 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2368.2705 And I was like /now/ I hope I wasn't with my sister. 2370.5288 1994 VLD_int_01 2370.9239 [] 2372.9874 1995 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2371.3278 [So.] 2371.9074 1996 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2371.9074 (pause 0.87) 2372.7733 1997 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2372.7733 /they- though/ they have to tell people wha- what, you know, 2375.2276 1998 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2375.5613 y- you coming up adopted, don't know people- 2377.7696 1999 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2377.7696 (pause 0.42) 2378.1867 2000 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2378.1867 but then I say, oh that's your brother wife, well I say okay. 2380.6848 2001 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2380.6848 (pause 1.64) 2382.3252 2002 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2382.3252 Oh, thank god. It wasn't my sister. 2383.9189 2003 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2383.9189 (pause 1.32) 2385.2404 2004 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2385.2404 So, that's how I got to meet my other family. 2387.4296 2005 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2387.4296 (pause 0.12) 2387.5481 2006 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2387.5481 And I still stop by and see her. 2389.4403 2007 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2389.4403 (pause 0.52) 2389.9628 2008 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2389.9628 She's around down the street from us. I can see her every now and then. 2392.8501 2009 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2392.8501 (pause 1.99) 2394.8433 2010 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2394.8433 But, I just didn't 2395.8838 2011 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2395.8838 (pause 0.61) 2396.4896 2012 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2396.4896 spend too much time with my fam- wi- with my- uh, 2398.7199 2013 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2398.7199 (pause 0.33) 2399.0473 2014 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2399.0473 biological family. 2399.9258 2015 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2399.9258 (pause 1.65) 2401.5805 2016 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2401.5805 So, that's how I got 2402.5244 2017 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2402.5244 (pause 0.33) 2402.8537 2018 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2402.8537 two mothers. 2403.5835 2019 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2403.5835 (pause 0.42) 2403.9995 2020 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2403.9995 Okay. 2404.4781 2021 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2404.4781 (pause 0.30) 2404.7807 2022 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2404.7807 They're still living. 2405.6136 2023 VLD_int_01 2406.0911 Mm. 2406.5301 2024 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2407.8252 And a daddy. 2408.8745 2025 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2408.8745 (pause 1.25) 2410.1286 2026 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2410.1286 Okay. What else? Let's move on. 2411.3623 2027 VLD_int_01 2411.3623 Oh. 2411.5686 2028 VLD_int_01 2411.5686 (pause 0.36) 2411.9286 2029 VLD_int_01 2411.9286 2412.4072 2030 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2412.4862 2412.8155 2031 VLD_int_01 2412.8857 Oh. 2413.3511 2032 VLD_int_01 2413.3511 (pause 0.34) 2413.6891 2033 VLD_int_01 2413.6891 The next thing I wanted to ask you is 2415.8492 2034 VLD_int_01 2415.8492 (pause 0.38) 2416.2296 2035 VLD_int_01 2416.2296 thinking about, 2417.0286 2036 VLD_int_01 2417.0286 (pause 0.32) 2417.3535 2037 VLD_int_01 2417.3535 cause you've been in and out of Valdosta 2419.1930 2038 VLD_int_01 2419.1930 (pause 0.49) 2419.6847 2039 VLD_int_01 2419.6847 a lot. 2420.1808 2040 VLD_int_01 2420.1808 (pause 0.86) 2421.0370 2041 VLD_int_01 2421.0370 Um, have you seen it change any? 2422.6203 2042 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2423.4106 Yeah. A lot. 2424.5389 2043 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2424.5389 (pause 0.70) 2425.2413 2044 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2425.2413 When I was up in Maryland, lith- like you say, you know. 2427.8184 2045 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2427.8184 (pause 0.80) 2428.6141 2046 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2428.6141 When I came back here, i- it's like I'm in the country. 2430.9278 2047 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2430.9278 (pause 1.18) 2432.1044 2048 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2432.1044 You know, I loved it up there, i- i- a- it's 2433.7551 2049 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2433.7551 (pause 0.08) 2433.8341 2050 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2433.8341 you don't hear all these trains. 2435.2024 2051 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2435.2024 (pause 0.47) 2435.6678 2052 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2435.6678 The trains are starting to blow the horns more. 2437.7663 2053 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2437.7663 (pause 1.10) 2438.8639 2054 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2438.8639 Oh lord, and this craziness with these people. 2441.1234 2055 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2441.1234 (pause 1.60) 2442.7200 2056 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2442.7200 2443.3046 2057 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2443.3046 (pause 0.38) 2443.6829 2058 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2443.6829 It- yeah. 2444.1922 2059 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2444.1922 (pause 0.07) 2444.2624 2060 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2444.2624 It's a lot changed that 2445.4171 2061 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2445.4171 (pause 0.78) 2446.2014 2062 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2446.2014 I don't like. 2446.8468 2063 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2446.8468 (pause 1.37) 2448.2209 2064 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2448.2209 But, 2448.5151 2065 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2448.5151 (pause 0.08) 2448.5985 2066 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2448.5985 I gotta live here until I leave again. 2450.4073 2067 VLD_int_01 2450.7015 Besides the trains, what's some other things you don't like? 2452.6843 2068 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2453.5520 T- 2454.2555 2069 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2454.2555 (pause 0.08) 2454.3356 2070 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2454.3356 traffic. 2454.8998 2071 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2454.8998 (pause 1.11) 2456.0061 2072 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2456.0061 Nosey people. 2456.9237 2073 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2456.9237 (pause 2.44) 2459.3632 2074 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2459.3632 Drama, drama, just 2460.5398 2075 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2460.5398 (pause 1.01) 2461.5539 2076 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2461.5539 Westside, period. 2462.5769 2077 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2462.5769 (pause 0.47) 2463.0510 2078 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2463.0510 [] 2464.4559 2079 VLD_int_01 2463.9905 [Why don't] you like the Westside? 2465.1920 2080 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2467.0359 Wild wild west. It's crazy. 2468.7788 2081 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2468.7788 (pause 0.11) 2468.8930 2082 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2468.8930 It- I mean, it ain't as crazy as it used to be, they ain't all that shooting and stuff like they used to, but 2472.9832 2083 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2472.9832 (pause 0.68) 2473.6637 2084 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2473.6637 it goes on, but 2474.4671 2085 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2474.4671 (pause 0.41) 2474.8754 2086 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2474.8754 it just these folks over here is just too nosey. 2477.4905 2087 VLD_int_01 2478.3686 Mm. 2478.7373 2088 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2479.4222 I mean, cause I don't care. As long as they don't put their hands on me, I- 2482.1310 2089 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2482.1310 (pause 0.27) 2482.4032 2090 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2482.4032 I don't care what they say. They could talk about me, 2484.2281 2091 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2484.2281 (pause 0.47) 2484.7022 2092 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2484.7022 point their fingers at me, 2485.7822 2093 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2485.7822 (pause 0.40) 2486.1861 2094 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2486.1861 an m- might even throw a rock at me, but it better not hit me. 2488.6754 2095 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2488.6754 (pause 1.08) 2489.7583 2096 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2489.7583 But, yeah, I don't care, cause they don't do nothing for me, 2492.0369 2097 VLD_int_01 2492.4759 So, how was- how is it different from the Southside? 2494.2408 2098 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2494.7705 We stayed, I told you, it was like 2496.1447 2099 VLD_int_01 2496.2632 Look- [l- oh- /inaudible/] 2497.4705 2100 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2496.6451 [nice.] Yeah, we didn't w- y- 2498.6208 2101 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2498.7481 we didn't do anything, yeah, everybody helped out each other. 2501.1042 2102 VLD_int_01 2501.1129 But what about the rest of the Southside? 2502.6320 2103 VLD_int_01 2502.6320 (pause 0.24) 2502.8691 2104 VLD_int_01 2502.8691 Cause doesn't it [have a] reputation? 2504.2213 2105 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2503.2905 [Well.] 2503.5364 2106 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2504.3442 Well, some of it, I don't know nothing about that part, but we was- our neighborhood where we were 2507.6881 2107 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2507.6881 (pause 0.42) 2508.1095 2108 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2508.1095 that's where we stayed at. 2509.0095 2109 VLD_int_01 2509.1281 Mm-hm. 2509.4881 2110 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2509.8437 We didn't- we didn't go 2511.0598 2111 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2511.0598 (pause 0.13) 2511.1915 2112 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2511.1915 all out there 2511.9423 2113 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2511.9423 (pause 0.71) 2512.6563 2114 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2512.6563 adventuring. 2513.2139 2115 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2513.2139 (pause 0.43) 2513.6486 2116 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2513.6486 And our neighborhood was nice. 2515.2422 2117 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2515.2422 (pause 0.29) 2515.5276 2118 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2515.5276 Uh. 2516.0500 2119 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2516.0500 (pause 0.13) 2516.1818 2120 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2516.1818 Back- especially back then. 2517.3188 2121 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2517.3188 (pause 1.13) 2518.4515 2122 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2518.4515 Now, now? 2519.1568 2123 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2519.1568 (pause 0.29) 2519.4510 2124 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2519.4510 I don't know. I ain't been over there in some [year.] 2521.6245 2125 VLD_int_01 2521.1676 [Oh, that's wha-] mm-hm. 2522.1115 2126 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2522.4496 So. 2522.9105 2127 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2522.9105 (pause 0.93) 2523.8413 2128 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2523.8413 And then, 2524.3988 2129 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2524.3988 (pause 0.14) 2524.5349 2130 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2524.5349 shoot. 2525.0339 2131 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2525.0339 (pause 1.47) 2526.5079 2132 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2526.5079 We used to race up and down the street. 2528.2641 2133 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2528.2641 (pause 0.74) 2529.0088 2134 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2529.0088 Ra- ride the bicycles, you know, like I said, we was doing stuff that 2532.0761 2135 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2532.0761 (pause 0.20) 2532.2736 2136 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2532.2736 kids do. 2532.8707 2137 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2532.8707 (pause 0.17) 2533.0419 2138 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2533.0419 M- make cakes, 2534.1702 2139 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2534.1702 (pause 1.04) 2535.2151 2140 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2535.2151 bow and arrows, 2535.9834 2141 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2535.9834 (pause 0.66) 2536.6463 2142 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2536.6463 steal your mama grease in a pan, after you kill a bird, go out in the woods and cook him. 2540.2010 2143 VLD_int_01 2540.3184 2541.0175 2144 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2541.0175 You know. 2541.6454 2145 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2542.0350 That what kids supposed to do back then, you know, ye- suppo- they should do that now, but their laptop computer and all that stuff, 2547.3106 2146 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2547.3106 (pause 0.68) 2547.9911 2147 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2547.9911 ain't doing nothing. 2548.9526 2148 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2548.9526 (pause 2.15) 2551.1067 2149 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2551.1067 Shoot. 2551.9326 2150 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2551.9326 (pause 1.24) 2553.1750 2151 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2553.1750 But I loved, like I said, the science stuff. I loved that, so. 2556.0112 2152 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2556.0112 (pause 0.74) 2556.7531 2153 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2556.7531 I was always doing some kind of experiment and stuff and all that with 2559.7063 2154 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2559.7063 (pause 1.66) 2561.3614 2155 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2561.3614 chemicals and 2562.1516 2156 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2562.1516 (pause 0.27) 2562.4238 2157 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2562.4238 the batteries and /sh-/ 2563.9165 2158 VLD_int_01 2564.7818 Do you do cars? Do you work on cars? 2566.4194 2159 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2566.7662 Yeah, I did that too. 2567.7832 2160 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2567.7832 (pause 0.92) 2568.7052 2161 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2568.7052 Like, I say, I was the handy man, it wasn't nothing I can't do 2570.7423 2162 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2570.7423 (pause 0.66) 2571.4008 2163 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2571.4008 but have a baby. 2572.2438 2164 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2572.2438 (pause 1.28) 2573.5242 2165 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2573.5242 But, 2573.8008 2166 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2573.8008 (pause 0.20) 2573.9983 2167 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2573.9983 I just did not. 2575.2101 2168 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2575.2101 (pause 0.63) 2575.8368 2169 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2575.8368 I mean, I- I did until it get to the point now, I'm getting too old for all that. 2578.9710 2170 VLD_int_01 2579.6998 Mm-hm. 2580.1081 2171 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2580.1871 I just love my plumbing. 2581.2979 2172 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2581.2979 (pause 0.29) 2581.5920 2173 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2581.5920 That's it. 2582.1628 2174 VLD_int_01 2582.5623 Cause that's your main thing that you wanna do. 2584.2130 2175 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2584.2438 That's the main thing I like doing. Plumbing. 2586.2633 2176 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2586.2633 (pause 1.17) 2587.4296 2177 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2587.4296 I got another see (laughing) 2588.8652 2178 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2588.8652 (pause 0.24) 2589.1023 2179 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2589.1023 I got another, uh, slogan. 2590.8657 2180 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2590.8657 (pause 2.03) 2592.8984 2181 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2592.8984 Uh. The P- /RD-NAME-1/ the plumber, 2594.5228 2182 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2594.5228 (pause 0.12) 2594.6457 2183 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2594.6457 he lay pipes, screw it tight, do it right, they'll call you back all night. 2597.3793 2184 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2597.3793 (pause 0.08) 2597.4583 2185 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2597.4583 2603.1860 2186 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2603.1860 (pause 0.18) 2603.3616 2187 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2603.3616 Oh. [/Terrible/.] 2604.1679 2188 VLD_int_01 2603.8104 [/RD-NAME-2/] when you came up with that? 2605.1952 2189 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2606.1527 Slogan? 2606.7015 2190 VLD_int_01 2606.7015 Mm-hm. 2607.2766 2191 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2607.2766 Oh, that be- uh, 2608.1020 2192 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2608.4137 ooh, it been about two- four years ago. 2610.5634 2193 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2610.5634 (pause 1.41) 2611.9727 2194 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2611.9727 [] 2613.1888 2195 VLD_int_01 2612.8815 [Say it again.] 2613.6059 2196 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2614.1722 I'd say, /RD-NAME-1/ the plumber man, he lay pipe, 2616.3175 2197 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2616.3175 (pause 0.43) 2616.7478 2198 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2616.7478 he screw it tight, 2617.4941 2199 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2617.4941 (pause 0.43) 2617.9200 2200 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2617.9200 he do it right, 2618.5829 2201 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2618.5829 (pause 0.25) 2618.8288 2202 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2618.8288 and they'll call you back all night. 2620.0668 2203 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2620.0668 (pause 0.86) 2620.9317 2204 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2620.9317 2621.8529 2205 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2621.8529 (pause 0.47) 2622.3214 2206 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2622.3214 But see 2622.8899 2207 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2622.8899 (pause 0.63) 2623.5166 2208 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2623.5166 I'm just being serious now. [I'm being] honest with you. Plumbing 2625.9044 2209 VLD_int_01 2624.3371 [Mm.] 2624.7086 2210 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2626.1151 ain't nothing but like sex, seriously. 2627.7907 2211 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2627.7907 (pause 0.63) 2628.4229 2212 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2628.4229 You got a male adapter, you got a female adapter, 2630.6663 2213 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2630.6663 (pause 0.88) 2631.5444 2214 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2631.5444 you got the uh, lubricant, you got the glue. 2633.8745 2215 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2633.8745 (pause 0.61) 2634.4844 2216 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2634.4844 You got 2635.0551 2217 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2635.0551 (pause 1.65) 2636.7015 2218 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2636.7015 the uh, 2637.1976 2219 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2637.1976 (pause 0.14) 2637.3337 2220 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2637.3337 caulking. 2637.8605 2221 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2637.8605 (pause 0.38) 2638.2425 2222 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2638.2425 You got 2638.8044 2223 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2638.8044 (pause 1.05) 2639.8566 2224 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2639.8566 the screw. You got to screw it together, you got to glue it together, you got to s- 2642.4073 2225 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2642.4073 (pause 0.16) 2642.5698 2226 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2642.5698 make sure it's tight. 2643.3951 2227 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2643.3951 (pause 0.81) 2644.2073 2228 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2644.2073 That's a- I mean. 2645.0547 2229 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2645.0547 (pause 0.46) 2645.5141 2230 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2645.5141 That's all it is. (laughing) 2646.6336 2231 VLD_int_01 2646.5195 [That's i-] 2646.8839 2232 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2647.0024 2647.3844 2233 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2647.3844 (pause 0.36) 2647.7400 2234 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2647.7400 Be honest. 2648.3546 2235 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2648.3546 (pause 0.72) 2649.0703 2236 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2649.0703 And that's what they taught me whe- when I was doing the plumbing. They say, hey, you know, and always remember, 2653.4195 2237 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2653.4195 (pause 0.51) 2653.9288 2238 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2653.9288 S-H-I-T always flow downhill. 2655.9071 2239 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2655.9071 (pause 1.29) 2657.1936 2240 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2657.1936 You know. 2657.6063 2241 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2657.6063 (pause 0.63) 2658.2341 2242 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2658.2341 Got to make sure you follow up proper. 2659.6346 2243 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2659.6346 (pause 1.39) 2661.0220 2244 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2661.0220 And then, you got to learn about a little Christian part of it too. 2663.2215 2245 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2663.2215 (pause 1.37) 2664.5963 2246 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2664.5963 Go to heaven, 2665.2373 2247 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2665.2373 (pause 0.59) 2665.8256 2248 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2665.8256 it's cold. 2666.4534 2249 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2666.4534 (pause 0.96) 2667.4105 2250 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2667.4105 That's right. 2667.8654 2251 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2667.8654 (pause 1.38) 2669.2425 2252 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2669.2425 Go to Hell. 2669.8176 2253 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2669.8176 (pause 0.10) 2669.9186 2254 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2669.9186 Hot. 2670.2742 2255 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2670.2742 (pause 0.41) 2670.6869 2256 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2670.6869 That's left 2671.1610 2257 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2671.1610 (pause 1.10) 2672.2586 2258 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2672.2586 So, 2672.6625 2259 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2672.6625 (pause 0.60) 2673.2640 2260 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2673.2640 don't ever get your pipe cro- crossed up. 2674.9586 2261 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2674.9586 (pause 0.25) 2675.2089 2262 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2675.2089 Put the cold 2675.9113 2263 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2675.9113 (pause 0.14) 2676.0562 2264 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2676.0562 on the hot 2676.6620 2265 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2676.6620 (pause 1.40) 2678.0585 2266 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2678.0585 cause it ain't hot in Heaven. 2679.1194 2267 VLD_int_01 2679.9712 Mm. 2680.2697 2268 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2680.5331 Yeah. 2680.8492 2269 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2680.8492 (pause 0.12) 2680.9678 2270 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2680.9678 So, you always had your 2681.7887 2271 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2681.7887 (pause 0.49) 2682.2761 2272 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2682.2761 cold on the right side, think about heaven 2683.8566 2273 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2683.8566 (pause 0.11) 2683.9663 2274 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2683.9663 on the right 2684.3966 2275 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2684.3966 (pause 0.11) 2684.5019 2276 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2684.5019 go right, turn right, keep straight. 2685.7253 2277 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2685.7253 (pause 1.21) 2686.9326 2278 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2686.9326 You wanna go Hell, it's hot. 2688.0214 2279 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2688.0214 (pause 0.32) 2688.3375 2280 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2688.3375 It's on your left side. 2689.4307 2281 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2689.4307 (pause 0.97) 2690.3994 2282 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2690.3994 Go turn left 2691.1194 2283 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2691.1194 (pause 0.29) 2691.4048 2284 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2691.4048 and be bad, you gonna burn. 2692.5946 2285 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2692.5946 (pause 0.81) 2693.4068 2286 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2693.4068 Okay. Got it? 2694.2058 2287 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2694.2058 (pause 1.22) 2695.4209 2288 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2695.4209 Well, plumbing's e- pretty easy. Simple. 2697.1809 2289 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2697.1809 (pause 2.47) 2699.6558 2290 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2699.6558 Especially when now, we got the PVC pipe that you could just 2702.3230 2291 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2702.3230 (pause 0.21) 2702.5375 2292 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2702.5375 glue and screw and 2703.6519 2293 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2703.6519 (pause 0.79) 2704.4388 2294 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2704.4388 You know. 2704.8678 2295 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2704.8678 (pause 1.49) 2706.3559 2296 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2706.3559 And they have even made it easier now, with these picks. 2708.8359 2297 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2708.8359 (pause 0.85) 2709.6892 2298 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2709.6892 But, it's more expensive. 2710.8631 2299 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2710.8631 (pause 1.45) 2712.3086 2300 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2712.3086 And the thing about it is, some people don't wanna pay. 2714.5654 2301 VLD_int_01 2715.2789 Mm-hm. 2715.6799 2302 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2716.5926 [It's li-] 2717.0589 2303 VLD_int_01 2716.5926 [Is it better?] 2717.2221 2304 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2717.5812 Hm? 2717.9029 2305 VLD_int_01 2717.9915 Is it better? 2718.6910 2306 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2719.0034 It's a lot better. 2719.9406 2307 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2719.9406 (pause 0.47) 2720.4116 2308 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2720.4116 [Shoot.] 2720.8359 2309 VLD_int_01 2720.4116 [Oh .] 2720.6261 2310 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2720.9058 Back a days, they used to have to, uh, heck, 2722.8305 2311 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2722.8305 (pause 0.23) 2723.0589 2312 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2723.0589 they galv- 2723.6698 2313 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2723.6698 (pause 0.69) 2724.3599 2314 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2724.3599 cast galvanized pipe, 2725.6981 2315 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2725.6981 (pause 0.88) 2726.5748 2316 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2726.5748 that's an iron pipe. 2727.5913 2317 VLD_int_01 2727.6939 Mm. 2728.0156 2318 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2728.3947 They- and they have to do a measurement, 2730.1899 2319 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2730.1899 (pause 0.71) 2730.9033 2320 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2730.9033 they had this machine that 2732.0819 2321 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2732.0819 (pause 0.21) 2732.2917 2322 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2732.2917 had to thread it, 2733.5291 2323 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2733.5291 (pause 1.37) 2734.9024 2324 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2734.9024 to- to screw it in, to make sure that everything alright. 2737.9233 2325 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2737.9233 (pause 0.43) 2738.3523 2326 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2738.3523 Now, all we do is just glue, 2739.8538 2327 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2739.8538 (pause 0.10) 2739.9564 2328 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2739.9564 cut, and screw. 2740.6745 2329 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2740.6745 (pause 1.34) 2742.0127 2330 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2742.0127 And- and 2742.5769 2331 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2742.5769 (pause 0.17) 2742.7448 2332 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2742.7448 wire it up, band it up, 2743.9467 2333 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2743.9467 (pause 1.00) 2744.9492 2334 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2744.9492 shoot, you'd be finishing by- 2746.1555 2335 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2746.1555 (pause 0.11) 2746.2674 2336 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2746.2674 you could do a whole house in less than a day. 2748.1573 2337 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2748.1573 (pause 1.84) 2749.9979 2338 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2749.9979 And back then, it probably took them a week, 2751.8118 2339 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2751.8118 (pause 1.23) 2753.0428 2340 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2753.0428 maybe two. 2753.7423 2341 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2753.7423 (pause 2.81) 2756.5515 2342 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2756.5515 But, that's why I like it so much, it's- it's real easy now, 2758.8829 2343 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2758.8829 (pause 2.48) 2761.3624 2344 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2761.3624 simple. All you gotta do is just 2762.9184 2345 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2762.9184 (pause 1.68) 2764.5938 2346 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2764.5938 you can just watch it. 2765.3678 2347 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2765.3678 (pause 0.16) 2765.5310 2348 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2765.5310 Just look at it as an observer, you can- 2767.0651 2349 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2767.0651 (pause 0.09) 2767.1537 2350 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2767.1537 and- and you would see how it work, it's e- 2768.6783 2351 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2768.6783 (pause 0.35) 2769.0280 2352 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2769.0280 it's easy. 2769.7648 2353 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2769.7648 (pause 0.69) 2770.4549 2354 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2770.4549 Sometime. 2771.2009 2355 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2771.2009 (pause 0.07) 2771.2709 2356 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2771.2709 Anyways, yeah. 2771.9517 2357 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2771.9517 (pause 1.93) 2773.8821 2358 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2773.8821 Sometime you have to work on it for a whole week, for real, until you get it right. 2777.0424 2359 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2777.0424 (pause 1.91) 2778.9495 2360 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2778.9495 It's all good. I love it. 2780.0966 2361 VLD_int_01 2780.5850 What's- what's the fave- 2781.3871 2362 VLD_int_01 2781.3871 (pause 0.12) 2781.5036 2363 VLD_int_01 2781.5036 besides plumbing. 2782.3882 2364 VLD_int_01 2782.3882 (pause 0.63) 2783.0144 2365 VLD_int_01 2783.0144 What's your favorite thing you love to do? 2784.2920 2366 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2785.4531 Watch Star Trek. 2786.2645 2367 VLD_int_01 2787.0793 Why? 2787.5130 2368 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2788.0818 Because I wanted to be the [first black] astronaut. 2790.4552 2369 VLD_int_01 2789.3315 [Firs-] 2789.6626 2370 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2790.5858 [And tha-] 2791.0241 2371 VLD_int_01 2790.5858 [So, tell me a] little bit about [Star Trek.] 2792.0488 2372 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2791.6012 [But-] 2791.8576 2373 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2791.8576 (pause 0.17) 2792.0255 2374 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2792.0255 But see, 2792.7622 2375 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2793.0980 the- all it's doing is showing you what the future's gonna be. 2795.9750 2376 VLD_int_01 2796.2454 Mm. 2796.5438 2377 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2796.8003 Okay, go back to 2798.1525 2378 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2798.1525 (pause 1.41) 2799.5643 2379 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2799.5643 uh, the Star Trek the Next Generation is the update. 2801.7232 2380 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2801.7232 (pause 0.77) 2802.4926 2381 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2802.4926 Back in the day, when we had Star Trek, 2804.2085 2382 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2804.2085 (pause 0.11) 2804.3146 2383 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2804.3146 we had 2804.6736 2384 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2804.6736 (pause 0.26) 2804.9348 2385 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2804.9348 dial phones, 2806.0632 2386 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2806.0632 (pause 1.27) 2807.3362 2387 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2807.3362 And Captain Kirk 2808.2874 2388 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2808.2874 (pause 0.19) 2808.4739 2389 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2808.4739 always had pulled out his little phone, little- 2810.5244 2390 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2810.5244 (pause 0.32) 2810.8462 2391 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2810.8462 ain't nothing but the- uh, cell phone. 2812.6227 2392 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2812.6227 (pause 0.64) 2813.2662 2393 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2813.2662 Flip phone. 2814.0076 2394 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2814.0076 (pause 0.94) 2814.9449 2395 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2814.9449 Say Kirk say 2815.9800 2396 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2815.9800 (pause 0.48) 2816.4592 2397 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2816.4592 Kirk beam me say- what he say, Scotty, beam me up. 2818.3477 2398 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2818.3477 (pause 1.38) 2819.7290 2399 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2819.7290 Everybody, oh that's so fake, find that ain't nothing. 2821.9439 2400 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2821.9439 (pause 1.47) 2823.4162 2401 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2823.4162 Now after a while, what you see? 2824.5726 2402 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2824.5726 (pause 1.02) 2825.5938 2403 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2825.5938 Flip phone come out. 2826.5357 2404 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2826.5357 (pause 1.44) 2827.9754 2405 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2827.9754 So, 2828.3577 2406 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2828.3577 (pause 0.15) 2828.5070 2407 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2828.5070 they were teaching you 2829.4069 2408 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2829.4069 (pause 0.63) 2830.0410 2409 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2830.0410 that what is gonna- the future gonna be. 2831.4959 2410 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2831.4959 (pause 1.47) 2832.9693 2411 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2832.9693 Now, 2833.5988 2412 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2833.5988 (pause 0.31) 2833.9113 2413 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2833.9113 Star Trek Next Generation and Voyager, 2836.1017 2414 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2836.1017 (pause 0.83) 2836.9363 2415 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2836.9363 those are 2837.5798 2416 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2837.5798 (pause 0.28) 2837.8596 2417 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2837.8596 Star pe- i- in the ships going through 2839.9439 2418 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2839.9439 (pause 0.86) 2840.8007 2419 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2840.8007 galaxies. 2841.6960 2420 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2841.6960 (pause 0.48) 2842.1809 2421 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2842.1809 And that's what it's gonna be in the future. 2843.6777 2422 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2843.6777 (pause 1.35) 2845.0300 2423 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2845.0300 They already trying to send people to Mars. 2846.7261 2424 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2846.7261 (pause 0.86) 2847.5887 2425 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2847.5887 They might be there, we don't know. 2848.8757 2426 VLD_int_01 2849.0436 2849.5518 2427 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2850.4238 You know. 2850.8808 2428 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2850.8808 (pause 0.19) 2851.0719 2429 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2851.0719 I mean, it's a lot of stuff. I- I mean, I- I've seen a UFO before. 2853.9804 2430 VLD_int_01 2855.1928 Tell me about that. 2855.8503 2431 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2856.4191 It was scary. 2857.9019 2432 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2857.9019 (pause 0.72) 2858.6235 2433 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2858.6235 We was in the woods. 2859.6354 2434 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2859.6354 (pause 0.18) 2859.8172 2435 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2859.8172 At k- we used to camp out 2860.9923 2436 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2860.9923 (pause 0.65) 2861.6404 2437 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2861.6404 in the woods, and stuff, you know, with a fire and all that. 2863.9952 2438 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2863.9952 (pause 0.88) 2864.8800 2439 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2864.8800 And seen some strange lights come up and it just came and stopped. 2867.7663 2440 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2867.7663 (pause 0.20) 2867.9617 2441 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2867.9617 And it wasn't no sound. 2869.0579 2442 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2869.0579 (pause 1.28) 2870.3402 2443 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2870.3402 You know, I don't know if it was military or something or whatever, but I know 2873.2581 2444 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2873.2581 (pause 0.47) 2873.7290 2445 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2873.7290 it came up over them trees and it just stopped. 2876.0278 2446 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2876.0278 (pause 1.42) 2877.4489 2447 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2877.4489 And we tried to put the fire out and stuff (laughing), we couldn't put it out, but 2880.6290 2448 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2880.6290 (pause 0.28) 2880.9041 2449 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2880.9041 it just stood there. 2881.7807 2450 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2881.7807 (pause 1.30) 2883.0821 2451 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2883.0821 And I wasn't drinking, I wasn't smoking. 2884.6814 2452 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2884.6814 (pause 0.45) 2885.1337 2453 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2885.1337 So, (laughing) 2885.9358 2454 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2885.9358 (pause 0.31) 2886.2470 2455 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2886.2470 I know it was real. 2887.2822 2456 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2887.2822 (pause 2.10) 2889.3805 2457 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2889.3805 And after a while, we seen it move on a little bit more, and it went u- up into the air 2892.6993 2458 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2892.6993 (pause 0.15) 2892.8485 2459 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2892.8485 and it just zoomed off. 2894.0236 2460 VLD_int_01 2895.5437 When was this? How long ago? 2896.6162 2461 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2896.8120 Oh man, I think I was about, 2898.4407 2462 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2898.4407 (pause 0.20) 2898.6412 2463 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2898.6412 what, 2898.8651 2464 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2898.8651 (pause 0.46) 2899.3220 2465 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2899.3220 twenty-five 2900.3339 2466 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2900.3339 (pause 1.69) 2902.0207 2467 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2902.0207 round about twenty-five. 2903.1445 2468 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2903.1445 (pause 0.27) 2903.4102 2469 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2903.4102 We were back there on the farm. This wa- this was here. 2905.4153 2470 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2905.4153 (pause 1.29) 2906.7058 2471 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2906.7058 Out there in Mineola. 2907.7223 2472 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2907.7223 (pause 0.19) 2907.9088 2473 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2907.9088 Out there on our farm. 2908.8180 2474 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2908.8180 (pause 1.26) 2910.0817 2475 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2910.0817 We used to go out there and camp out on the farm. 2912.0681 2476 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2912.0681 (pause 1.92) 2913.9927 2477 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2913.9927 But, 2914.2911 2478 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2914.2911 (pause 1.52) 2915.8066 2479 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2915.8066 Uh. Yeah. That's so every- I- I just- I believe in the UFO's. I believe in the- in the 2919.7736 2480 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2919.7736 (pause 0.55) 2920.3191 2481 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2920.3191 Star Trek, because 2921.4848 2482 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2921.4848 (pause 0.55) 2922.0397 2483 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2922.0397 Apollo 2922.7998 2484 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2922.7998 (pause 0.40) 2923.2008 2485 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2923.2008 Thirteen 2923.9329 2486 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2923.9329 (pause 1.48) 2925.4099 2487 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2925.4099 capsule, uh 2926.3611 2488 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2926.3611 (pause 0.09) 2926.4497 2489 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2926.4497 spaceship. 2927.1864 2490 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2927.1864 (pause 0.63) 2927.8206 2491 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2927.8206 A rocket really wa- it was a rocket. 2929.4479 2492 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2929.4479 (pause 1.27) 2930.7197 2493 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2930.7197 And they went up 2931.3446 2494 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2931.3446 (pause 0.67) 2932.0114 2495 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2932.0114 went to the moon. 2932.8320 2496 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2932.8320 (pause 0.83) 2933.6574 2497 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2933.6574 I remember, my grandmother 2934.8791 2498 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2934.8791 (pause 0.33) 2935.2055 2499 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2935.2055 She used to say, /RD-NAME-1/, are they going up there for real? 2937.5824 2500 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2937.5824 (pause 1.05) 2938.6315 2501 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2938.6315 I'd say, yes ma'am. 2939.7040 2502 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2939.7040 (pause 0.14) 2939.8392 2503 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2939.8392 She'd say, they ain't supposed to be doing that. Trying to go up there with God. 2942.6323 2504 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2942.6323 (pause 0.94) 2943.5731 2505 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2943.5731 I say, yes ma'am, but that's just the future, g- my dear. 2946.1610 2506 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2946.1610 (pause 0.73) 2946.8930 2507 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2946.8930 They going up there. 2947.8536 2508 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2947.8536 (pause 0.98) 2948.8291 2509 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2948.8291 That's science. 2949.5578 2510 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2949.5578 (pause 0.59) 2950.1466 2511 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2950.1466 And everything else about to change too. 2952.1423 2512 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2952.1423 (pause 1.99) 2954.1334 2513 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2954.1334 She said, well I don't wanna be here when it change. And so she- 2957.0838 2514 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2957.0838 (pause 0.73) 2957.8159 2515 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2957.8159 she passed on. 2958.8206 2516 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2958.8206 (pause 2.47) 2961.2933 2517 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2961.2933 But 2961.6243 2518 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2961.6243 (pause 0.16) 2961.7829 2519 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2961.7829 that's the future, you got these cars going now, what, 2964.0491 2520 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2964.0491 (pause 0.22) 2964.2682 2521 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2964.2682 uh, by theyself. 2965.5039 2522 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2965.5039 (pause 0.08) 2965.5878 2523 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2965.5878 Hell, how many fatalities now? 2967.1021 2524 VLD_int_01 2967.6430 A lot. 2968.1233 2525 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2969.1071 E- 2969.2330 2526 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2969.2330 (pause 0.13) 2969.3589 2527 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2969.3589 really? 2969.7506 2528 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2969.7506 (pause 0.39) 2970.1423 2529 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2970.1423 I know, I heard- read about two. 2971.9189 2530 VLD_int_01 2973.5651 They- well, I don't know if there's fatalities, but they having a lot of accidents. You know, they trying to get it 2977.4446 2531 VLD_int_01 2977.4446 (pause 0.62) 2978.0601 2532 VLD_int_01 2978.0601 tweaking the technology and getting it right, but. 2979.8868 2533 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2980.0687 Yeah, I know that. Tha- see, that's what's happening with the space program. 2982.7872 2534 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2982.7872 (pause 0.78) 2983.5659 2535 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2983.5659 Lot of people died until they got it right. 2985.1361 2536 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2985.1361 (pause 1.44) 2986.5770 2537 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2986.5770 And that's wha- how life goes, you know, you gonna, 2988.3815 2538 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2988.3815 (pause 1.83) 2990.2094 2539 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2990.2094 they gonna keep on doing stuff until they try to perfect it, so somebody gonna die. 2993.6075 2540 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2993.6075 (pause 0.74) 2994.3489 2541 VLD_se0_ag4_m_02 2994.3489 Somebody got to be the crash dummy. 2995.6125