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1DCB_int_010.406And where were you born?1.574
2DCB_se1_ag1_m_012.092Washington DC.2.888
3DCB_int_013.272And what neighborhood?4.004
4DCB_se1_ag1_m_014.8Congress Heights.5.532
5DCB_int_016.105Congress Heights?6.72
6DCB_se1_ag1_m_016.789Yes.7.255
7DCB_int_018.284And where's that?8.695
8DCB_se1_ag1_m_019.151Uh,9.605
10 10.229up the street.10.758 
11DCB_int_0111.622[Southeast?]12.184
12DCB_se1_ag1_m_0111.688[/I would say-/] yeah.12.455
13DCB_int_0113.899Have you lived in any other neighborhoods?15.412
14DCB_se1_ag1_m_0115.781No.16.165
15DCB_int_0116.289Have you lived anywhere else besides DC?17.747
16DCB_se1_ag1_m_0118.116Uh, when I was three I m- moved to Pennsylvania.20.455
17DCB_int_0120.766For how long?21.301
18DCB_se1_ag1_m_0121.955Uh, for a year.22.756
19DCB_int_0128.816Cool.29.197
21 29.896Um, currently you are a senior? No- or did you [graduate?]33.057 
22DCB_se1_ag1_m_0132.682[I'm a-]33.009
23 33.111I'm a graduate.33.792
24DCB_int_0133.903Okay.34.245
26 34.629What- where'd you go to school?35.449 
27DCB_se1_ag1_m_0136.046/RD-SCHOOL-6/.36.886
28DCB_int_0137.364/RD-SCHOOL-2/.38.114
30 38.309Cool.38.788 
32 41.22And-42.61 
34 43.468so what are your plans now?44.42 
35DCB_se1_ag1_m_0144.924Uh,45.395
37 46.41I want to-46.782 
39 46.899I'm47.145 
41 47.418going to pursue48.159 
43 48.348IT.48.799 
45 50.689And I'm'a start a, uh,51.727 
47 53.586a non-profit54.978 
49 56.656program57.186 
51 57.349called Big Brother.58.104 
52DCB_int_0161.491And what is Big Brother?62.352
53DCB_se1_ag1_m_0163.01[It's bas-]63.406
54DCB_int_0163.055[Or what do] you /want it/ to be?64.036
55DCB_se1_ag1_m_0164.585it's basically from ages six to66.563
57 66.77twenty-five,67.338 
58DCB_int_0167.542Mm-hm.67.969
59DCB_se1_ag1_m_0168.169showing68.69
61 69.195that69.508 
63 70.849all young black men shouldn't72.497 
65 72.647go to the streets73.469 
67 73.811they first answer.74.673 
69 75.33Or they first try.76.095 
71 76.996So basically it is78.4 
73 79.301a mentoring program80.285 
75 81.3from,81.751 
77 82.296you would be in the mentoring program from six to eighteen-84.382 
79 84.799ages six85.468 
81 85.586to85.907 
83 86.057eighteen,86.63 
85 87.161then from eighteen88.038 
87 88.119to twenty five you have the chance to be a mentor.90.157 
88DCB_int_0190.946Ah so it's kind of a full cycle92.494
89DCB_se1_ag1_m_0192.771Uh-huh.93.104
90DCB_int_0193.227thing. [I'm gonna] clip this here so I can turn your volume up.95.85
91DCB_se1_ag1_m_0193.509[And one-]93.836
92 96.291And once you in college we will try to do99.229
94 100.001uh, a scholarship.101.098 
95DCB_int_01101.796[For the-]102.228
96DCB_se1_ag1_m_01101.88[For all] your years.102.829
97 103.347As long as you still participate in the program.105.352
98DCB_int_01105.835Cool.106.352
100 106.646And how do you um- where do you think you're gonna get your-109.31 
102 109.434your guys from? You wanna do it in the DC area or you wanna go-112.045 
103DCB_se1_ag1_m_01112.078Yeah I'm gonna start from112.972
105 113.179DMV area.113.911 
106DCB_int_01114.068Okay.114.407
107DCB_se1_ag1_m_01114.404DC.114.794
108 115.094Perhaps.115.712
109DCB_int_01115.98And then116.474
111 116.559what is your um,117.904 
113 118.342what do your parents do?119.308 
114DCB_se1_ag1_m_01120.127Uh, my mom121.4
116 122.544she's a security guard.123.789 
117DCB_int_01130.776Mm-hm.131.085
118DCB_se1_ag1_m_01131.196And my dad131.827
120 132.139is a maintenance worker.133.123 
121DCB_int_01133.597Oh.133.958
123 134.759And where were they born?135.605 
124DCB_se1_ag1_m_01136.301Washington DC.136.928
126 137.748[I mean my mom-]138.327 
127DCB_int_01137.775[Oh both were-]138.369
128DCB_se1_ag1_m_01138.453[my mom] was Washington D- I think my dad was North Carolina.140.683
129DCB_int_01138.453[Mm-hm.]138.816
130 149.051We'll see how this goes, we may have to move just cause of the-151.682
132 152.313if I can pick you up, I think it's picking you up154.183 
134 154.321fine though.154.781 
136 155.117Okay.155.381 
138 155.663So,156.02 
140 156.743tell me a little bit about Congress Heights, um, your family160.876 
142 161.245um,161.724 
144 162.443your neighborhood.163.355 
145DCB_se1_ag1_m_01164.748Uh, well,165.488
147 165.75basically166.726 
149 167.413as of today, Congress Heights has lost in170.322 
151 170.466a month171.21 
153 171.95I would say three weeks we had lost two,173.835 
155 174.463we had two killings there,175.688 
157 176.788as of right now. But growing up in Congress Heights it was-179.225 
159 180.362it was fun181.142 
161 181.994but it was difficult183.172 
163 183.839cause it was still184.812 
165 184.968a185.308 
167 186.124neighborhood against neighborhood187.292 
169 187.388type of188.097 
171 189.053beef and190.077 
173 190.922I n- my191.778 
175 191.874parents grew up around there so I was193.611 
177 193.751pretty- I was safe but I wasn't safe.195.336 
178DCB_int_01195.752Mm-hm.196.084
179DCB_se1_ag1_m_01196.768Uh, I had /began before the street life/ for- to age fourteen200.262
181 201.142because of the situations that happened around there.203.11 
183 204.063Uh,204.722 
185 206.424my grandmother207.517 
187 209.941was a alcoholic.210.936 
189 211.862She's uh, clean now for about214.067 
191 214.375three- three years now.215.739 
193 216.992And my mom217.74 
195 218.229raised us-218.905 
197 219.065raised me and my three brothers220.257 
199 220.585as a single parent.221.573 
201 221.818My dad was locked up for seven years.223.89 
203 224.987Uh-225.711 
204DCB_int_01228.008Are you the youngest, oldest?229.413
205DCB_se1_ag1_m_01229.373I'm the oldest.230.049
206DCB_int_01230.369You're the oldest, so how old are your brothers?232.013
207DCB_se1_ag1_m_01232.254Uh, /RD-NAME-2/233.299
209 233.831he's234.371 
211 234.471twelve,234.939 
213 235.537/RD-NAME-2/ is ten.236.388 
214DCB_int_01237.572And then238.677
216 239.153y-239.349 
218 239.493that's239.752 
220 239.921two.240.246 
222 240.373Y- it's- there's three of you total.241.566 
223DCB_se1_ag1_m_01242.106Yeah.242.398
224DCB_int_01242.594Oh, oh, oh, oh okay I was- added244.224
226 244.355four.244.651 
228 244.775I w- I don't know why I was adding it. Okay.246.224 
230 246.68And247.448 
232 248.236so do you think,249.237 
234 249.857especially in this neighborhood you said that252.09 
236 252.226it was just a lot going on, but that was the neighborhood your parents grew up in,255.535 
237DCB_se1_ag1_m_01255.507Mm.255.839
238DCB_int_01256.171how do you feel like being a young black man259.131
240 259.721and seeing kind of this-261.306 
242 261.681this neighborhood and this going on around you?263.898 
243DCB_se1_ag1_m_01264.919Um, I was scared,265.897
245 266.159/I'm/ still am,266.884 
247 266.999because267.816 
249 268.404my268.949 
251 269.148cousin got killed269.837 
253 269.965in front of my house.270.885 
255 272.414Yeah.272.755 
257 273.046He got killed,273.574 
259 273.714he got shot seven times.275.171 
261 275.943My uncle got killed276.904 
263 277.308in the same place.278.288 
265 279.629It's-279.923 
267 280.085it was-280.345 
269 280.421it's hard281.033 
271 281.333growing up281.905 
273 282.27around there it's hard growing up in any283.866 
275 284.034DC neighborhood284.887 
277 285.531because you don't know286.615 
279 286.823what's gonna happen.287.476 
281 287.66You have to live-288.316 
283 289.192you have to live day by day290.487 
285 291.685in291.933 
287 292.381terror.292.969 
289 293.154/Like,/293.859 
291 294.03every person you see they will say, be safe before the end of a conversation.297.049 
293 297.419That shouldn't be happening.298.3 
294DCB_int_01298.884Why do you feel like that?299.973
295DCB_se1_ag1_m_01300.413Because301.155
297 301.449the way our generation is,302.92 
299 304.29it's304.846 
301 305.022more the streets and306.327 
303 306.423peer pressure307.035 
305 307.167that gets to a lot of us.308.192 
307 309.792And310.333 
309 312.017like,312.289 
311 312.978when I talk to my grandfather about it- what's happening,314.863 
313 315.819he said back when they used to be kids the neighborhood used to watch k-318.76 
315 319watch you.319.472 
317 320.212Like, somebody else parent can get on you.322.001 
318DCB_int_01322.369Mm-hm.323.068
319DCB_se1_ag1_m_01323.058And now it's not like that,324.09
320 324.27if somebody else parent get325.383
322 325.491to you325.92 
324 326.359/it's gonna be/ another altercation327.485 
326 327.755that's trying to solve that first altercation.329.4 
327DCB_int_01329.528Yup.329.872
329 332.041Do you think that332.898 
331 333.186<clears throat> your mom had it really rough?334.906 
332DCB_se1_ag1_m_01335.599Yeah.336.06
334 337.079She moved out my grandma house at f-339.208 
336 339.348at the age of fourteen,340.853 
338 341.677got pregnant with me at sixteen.343.258 
340 344.69So it was hard.345.567 
342 347.435She had it hard, sh- she still do.349.002 
344 349.872I just wanna help her now351.049 
346 351.425cause I'm old enough to understand what's going on now.353.641 
348 354.898And help my little brothers, that's why I wanna start this program.357.154 
349DCB_int_01359.084Um, are you the first one in your family to graduate from high school?361.697
350DCB_se1_ag1_m_01361.881Uh, no,362.245
352 362.341my- me and my cousin graduated this-363.646 
354 363.762this year.364.301 
355DCB_int_01364.61Oh [okay.]365.19
356DCB_se1_ag1_m_01364.914[My little] cousin.365.51
357 365.634Yeah.365.956
358DCB_int_01366.091Cool.366.543
360 366.915But367.184 
362 367.395out of like your-368.4 
364 368.651your-368.946 
366 369.216neither your mom or dad graduated from high school?371.18 
367DCB_se1_ag1_m_01371.333No.371.791
368DCB_int_01372.009No?372.265
370 373.145Um, are you going to college?374.621 
371DCB_se1_ag1_m_01375.15Uh,375.575
373 376.038not as of right now but I hope to.378.187 
374DCB_int_01378.571And you wanna do IT?379.74
375DCB_se1_ag1_m_01379.804Yeah I'm'a [do] IT.380.652
376DCB_int_01380.172[A-]380.304
377 380.776and then381.521
379 381.612what do you wanna do specifically like383.521 
381 383.958there- cause that's a big field.385.03 
382DCB_se1_ag1_m_01384.998I know, I wanna do385.907
383 386.042uh, the-386.57
385 386.854some computers.387.826 
387 388.183It's like, I wanna work at- no, like I just wanna do everything.390.388 
388DCB_int_01391.881I mean computers is a good job, you're always gonna have a job.394.198
390 394.505Like394.763 
392 395.146that's- technology is really [booming.]397.506 
393DCB_se1_ag1_m_01397.139[Yeah.]397.523
394 397.595In the school I was doing- I was in the uh,399.6
396 399.884computer science class so I learned how to do coding so402.701 
398 403.361that really got me interested in it.404.99 
399DCB_int_01405.29So,405.714
401 405.946let me ask you a couple different questions407.571 
403 407.723kind of based on that.408.723 
405 409.443Thinking about- have you- so you haven't really lived anywhere else outside of Congress Heights413.853 
407 413.957but414.278 
409 415.418you've traveled to other neighborhoods417.091 
411 417.327and then you've gone to418.591 
413 418.991um-419.355 
415 419.583So tell me kind of what do you see that's different from421.944 
417 422.228where you live versus423.885 
419 424.081like some of the other425.038 
421 425.166neighborhoods,426.074 
423 426.362do you see a difference? Are you allowed to go into other [neighborhoods?]429.299 
424DCB_se1_ag1_m_01429.128[Oh] yeah.429.664
425 429.976I'm allowed to go in other neighborhoods because my family's mostly433.245
427 433.601spread out through DC, [so.]435.186 
428DCB_int_01434.962[Okay.]435.374
429DCB_se1_ag1_m_01436.026Yeah.436.35
431 436.45It's different but it's437.478 
433 437.735still the same, it's not-438.727 
435 439.431The environment different,440.388 
437 440.588the way it look is different but441.728 
439 442.232in general it's still the same.443.221 
441 443.825Like you still have to watch over your shoulder.445.626 
443 445.914The people you grew up with, you still gotta be careful who your friends is.448.955 
445 449.363Cause like,449.811 
447 450.844DC is a cycle451.924 
449 452.032and I don't think it's gonna break.453.289 
450DCB_int_01454.289What do you mean?454.982
451DCB_se1_ag1_m_01455.145It's like,455.635
453 457.086if you grew up with somebody458.195 
455 458.615and y'all get into it,459.507 
457 460.251or if you more successful than them, you have to watch out.462.849 
459 463.32Maybe they might try and rob you or they probably try to kill you,465.858 
461 466.326or stuff like that.467.03 
463 467.158Like, I don't think467.886 
465 468.282that cycle's gonna break.469.359 
467 470.223Cause I don't-470.668 
469 470.836everybody wants the same goal but nobody else trying to reach it.473.349 
470DCB_int_01474.809So do you see-475.833
472 477.714I wanna talk about your high school in a minute,479.518 
474 480.011um, cause I've heard some interesting stories about /RD-SCHOOL-2/,482.12 
476 482.656but do you see-483.909 
478 484.938<ts>484.997 
480 485.337are turf wars like486.262 
482 486.622real? Do you see that [happening?]488.29 
483DCB_se1_ag1_m_01487.802[Mm.] Yeah.488.97
484DCB_int_01489.527[Can you tell] me a little bit about it?490.699
485DCB_se1_ag1_m_01489.599[It's-]489.847
486 491.119well,491.544
488 491.828it's a hood on hood situation.493.61 
490 494.169Like this neighborhood495.277 
492 495.461I guess Parkland is497.022 
494 497.494beefing with a hood that's r- literally right down the street.499.899 
496 500.207Twenty second500.932 
498 501.099is literally-501.804 
500 502.456only thing that separate 'em is the Boys and Girls Club504.305 
502 504.425and these row houses- town houses.506.06 
504 506.921Other than that507.558 
506 507.938it's basically508.838 
508 508.99nothing that separates them.510.059 
509DCB_int_01511.203And what- what happens? Like,512.54
511 512.808you know.513.315 
512DCB_se1_ag1_m_01513.328It's either you-514.649
514 515.393you get jumped,516.129 
516 517.486you get shot at518.19 
518 518.322or you get-518.736 
520 518.847you get robbed.519.767 
522 521.099It's just a lot of stuff can happen.522.829 
524 523.772Like I heard people got kidnapped.525.334 
526 526.311It just a lot.527.021 
527DCB_int_01528.22So how do people come like-529.62
529 530.099and do we have kids here at this club from both neighborhoods? Or is it mostly one [neighborhood?]535.141 
530DCB_se1_ag1_m_01534.681[It's mostly]535.501
531 535.617one, it's mostly one.536.572
532DCB_int_01536.837Is it537.102
534 537.39Parkland or Twenty second?538.386 
535DCB_se1_ag1_m_01538.818It's uh- some of it's majority Parkland but541.532
537 541.875it's people from my neighborhood who comes down here.543.916 
539 544.312And my cousin545.11 
541 545.285she's from-546.338 
543 547.106/I mean/ she's don't really claim nothing548.882 
545 549.214but549.554 
547 550.023she's uh, Forestville she comes down here.551.943 
549 552.495It's like,553.02 
551 553.1a mixture.553.761 
553 555.037But555.253 
555 555.989But I say /live it/ like,556.95 
557 557.305going around South Forestville is different you can see it's559.442 
559 559.642different.560.038 
561 560.951Because561.592 
563 562.015it's nothing, it's a lot of things that separate563.933 
565 564.692neighborhoods.565.369 
567 565.749/Like/ I don't live out there566.473 
569 566.553personally I don't know what happens but567.825 
571 568.262when I go out there it's like you feel more safe.570.174 
572DCB_int_01572.115[Mm.]572.624
573DCB_se1_ag1_m_01572.383[Other] than573.14
574 574.036getting dropped off at your house or-576.297
576 576.645or your neighborhood wondering like,577.822 
578 578.438what's gonna happen if I get out the car.579.95 
580 580.555Like-580.772 
582 581.047s- stuff like that.581.783 
583DCB_int_01582.495And do you see that often like people are just in fear?585.048
584DCB_se1_ag1_m_01585.608Yeah.586.033
586 586.893When you in fear587.946 
588 588.05or when you scared you do589.082 
590 589.57things that you usually wouldn't do.590.906 
592 592.239Like,592.566 
594 593.132I saw people who got bullied all they life and now595.937 
596 596.489they carry guns597.365 
598 597.525just-598.05 
600 598.77/?/599.129 
602 599.234they're just being scared.600.127 
603DCB_int_01601.047Wow.601.312
605 602.207And so- okay.603.244 
607 603.988Wait a minute.604.364 
609 604.584Let me back up.605.2 
611 606.449So do you feel like it was a time personally like, /RD-NAME-2/ you were like, oh my God I'm gonna die,610.899 
613 611.115like, something's gonna happen to me right now?612.743 
614DCB_se1_ag1_m_01613.071Yeah.613.421
615DCB_int_01613.831When? Can you tell me about it?615.045
616DCB_se1_ag1_m_01615.28I say616.237
618 617.529beginning of the summertime.618.554 
619DCB_int_01618.873[What happened?]619.424
620DCB_se1_ag1_m_01619.01[This summer.]619.494
621 620.494Seeing people just621.439
623 621.935/I say/622.339 
625 622.487drop like flies like623.696 
627 624.6just dying left and right.625.956 
629 627.297Or627.673 
631 627.989I think, oh what if I get locked up for being630.146 
633 630.294in the wrong place at the wrong time or hanging with the wrong people.632.738 
635 633.835That's why I really come down here to get away from everything.636.458 
637 637.217/That's like/ I got people down here I can talk to.639.03 
639 639.942That's really what my640.77 
641 640.918program is around like,642.263 
643 643.203if you don't643.674 
645 644.203feel safe at home or if you have something going on at home that you really don't wanna talk about648.113 
647 649.137then you have someone to talk to.650.272 
649 652.151Yeah.652.445 
650DCB_int_01653.423How did you- so how did you end- how did you start coming here? How did you start coming to the Boys and Girls Club?657.938
651DCB_se1_ag1_m_01658.113Well,658.576
653 659.185I had had AAU practice down here.661.195 
655 661.974I used to told- I used to tell /RD-NAME-4/ I'm'a come down here, I'm'a come down here and stay.665.209 
657 665.912So one day he locked me out the gym667.716 
659 668.637and he made me call my mom and signed me up670.746 
661 671.122for me to come down here.672.375 
663 672.599And672.971 
665 673.311ever since that day I been coming down here.674.796 
666DCB_int_01674.812And [when was that?]675.585
667DCB_se1_ag1_m_01675.08[Non stop.]675.592
668 676.092Say like three years ago.677.195
669DCB_int_01677.581So you've been- okay, so you've been coming down here for that long.679.469
670DCB_se1_ag1_m_01679.661Mm-hm.679.958
671DCB_int_01679.934And680.558
672 680.802what do you feel like681.951
674 683.255has been-684.283 
676 685.088so you've had lots of experiences686.708 
678 686.788in those three years, what do you think has been like the most influential or like the best experience you've had?692.013 
679DCB_se1_ag1_m_01692.787Uh, my senior year693.611
681 693.879cause I had a lot694.659 
683 695.328like-695.616 
685 696.324I had a lot more opportunities697.721 
687 697.833like698.125 
689 699.057the three years has been a way700.57 
691 700.662different change701.522 
693 702.362with me.702.774 
695 704.243Uh, the first year I was really-705.788 
697 706.508in basketball like I was kind of hanging outside later than what I usually do.709.86 
699 711.106Uh,711.59 
701 713.019my second year me coming down here714.648 
703 715.399uh, my grades started getting better.716.783 
704DCB_int_01717.304Mm.717.512
705DCB_se1_ag1_m_01718.133My third year, like my grades got better,719.973
707 720.121/I went in/720.645 
709 720.87more opportunities721.878 
711 722.926like723.147 
713 723.463my mindset changed724.979 
715 725.243as- when I hit eighteen726.403 
717 726.92as of when I was728.265 
719 729.089younger. Fourteen, f-730.445 
721 730.618bef- between fourteen and eighteen, I'm732.562 
723 732.686a totally different person.733.703 
724DCB_int_01734.163What do you think changed it?735.223
725DCB_se1_ag1_m_01736.036I say736.544
727 737.476me getting tired of it like739.197 
729 739.445seeing my cousin get locked up,740.882 
731 741.326come home and get locked up.742.446 
733 743.262Or come down here,744.116 
735 744.231seeing /RD-NAME-4/745.135 
737 746.184or just coming down here period.747.35 
739 747.452It's just seeing like how happy the kids is when they see me.749.781 
741 750.717Like750.985 
743 751.214it just changed me.751.979 
744DCB_int_01753.362So I heard you went to this program last week, tell me a [little bit about] it and like756.924
745DCB_se1_ag1_m_01755.763[Yeah.]756.173
746DCB_int_01757.344how did you get the opportunity? What- how did you get into the program?760.538
748 760.665[Tell me] about the [program.]761.818 
749DCB_se1_ag1_m_01760.669[We-]760.864
751 761.505[uh],761.782 
752 762.174well my cousin /RD-NAME-3/763.492
754 763.719my little cousin /RD-NAME-3/764.695 
756 765.359she766.02 
758 766.143was in the- going to the program,767.476 
760 768.564and /RD-NAME-4/ aksed me770.006 
762 770.129do I wanna go to the program.771.546 
764 772.05Was like, yeah sure,772.97 
766 773.25but I didn't know if he was gonna be gone774.802 
768 775.223from Wednesday to Saturday I thought it was a one day thing.777.428 
770 778.144So when I went there778.997 
772 780.273and it was new for me,781.142 
774 781.577I had dressed in business casual I really wasn't-783.87 
776 784.138I'm not used to dressing up.785.3 
777DCB_int_01786.471[So what] happened? How'd you-787.656
778DCB_se1_ag1_m_01786.523[Uh,]786.852
779DCB_int_01787.8how'd you like788.628
781 788.772dress and-789.521 
782DCB_se1_ag1_m_01789.781Uh,790.239
784 791.193I d- it was /not like/792.679 
786 792.918when I dress like that I like,794.094 
788 794.254I like it now like I can go to a store like,796.239 
790 796.687oh I can come back and buy this.797.856 
792 800.033But800.293 
794 800.413the program is basically801.809 
796 803.062it's a leadership program804.106 
798 804.767about your dream like,805.811 
800 805.911what you want to do806.771 
802 807.175to start807.612 
804 808.06or808.42 
806 808.548not start809.039 
808 810.261yeah start within your community like if you got drug problem if you got813.554 
810 814.382a high814.96 
812 815.239rape815.559 
814 815.975rate816.239 
816 816.711uh, thing817.378 
818 817.72in your neighborhood,818.356 
820 818.74it's-819.031 
822 819.244like, it shows you820.181 
824 820.513what steps you can do821.509 
826 822.229and they show you822.761 
828 822.949important people like823.846 
830 823.954I met a lot of democrats and republicans.826.171 
831DCB_int_01826.435Mm.826.763
832DCB_se1_ag1_m_01827.203So that really changed it828.694
834 829.256from829.652 
836 830.305Congress Heights to /how I start/.831.849 
838 832.757They showed- they-833.614 
840 834.258t-834.37 
842 834.67it's different telling you-835.743 
844 836.339telling-836.615 
846 837.015it's different from people telling you what they been through839.4 
847DCB_int_01839.972[Mm.]840.352
848DCB_se1_ag1_m_01840.02[and see how] they is now.841.065
849DCB_int_01841.617Mm-hm.842.041
850DCB_se1_ag1_m_01842.409So it was really-843.322
851DCB_int_01843.722What do you think was the most touching story that you heard at the program?847.24
852DCB_se1_ag1_m_01848.083Uh, I'll say849.328
854 849.736touching story I had was851.137 
856 851.773/this du-/852.185 
858 852.409/RD-NAME-2/852.917 
860 853.097he was the f- he was the coolest dude I met.855.515 
862 856.159Because he was- he's857.271 
864 857.423uh,857.767 
866 858.832what you call it when you run your own business? Uh,861.283 
868 861.381architect. No not an architect.862.981 
870 863.93I forgot what it's called when [you ha-]865.256 
871DCB_int_01864.946[When you-]865.255
872 865.354oh, entrepreneur.866.247
873DCB_se1_ag1_m_01866.199Yeah he's a entrepreneur.867.295
874 867.911And he said he made his first869.934
876 870.112company- he f- made his first million and run this company872.385 
878 873.045in six months.874.086 
880 875.218Then he said like875.898 
882 876.09last year- last month he made- he j-878.513 
884 878.756he just879.233 
886 880.132/Ow-/880.348 
888 880.568/they-/880.824 
890 881.549/?/ fourteen million.882.943 
892 883.461So it was like,883.988 
894 884.95that's-885.283 
896 886.138I'm not used to hearing those numbers.887.481 
897DCB_int_01888.067[Mm.]888.57
898DCB_se1_ag1_m_01888.127[So it was like] new I was like,889.444
899 889.998mister you a millionaire,891.158
901 891.921you could be doing something important893.321 
903 893.617/owing/894.078 
905 894.918something you can be anywhere else but you decided to talk to us and that really did change me.898.628 
906DCB_int_01899.5Wow cause you felt like900.696
907DCB_se1_ag1_m_01900.788[/Right./]901.228
908DCB_int_01900.876[he cared about your] situation and [what you were] doing.903.876
909DCB_se1_ag1_m_01901.576[Yeah.]901.968
911 902.953[Uh-huh.]903.357 
912DCB_int_01904.614Do you think that,905.658
914 906.358um-906.882 
916 908.795that-909.027 
918 909.279that something that you can do910.771 
920 911.148can change kind of your neighborhood and can change how people look at you and how people915.268 
922 915.574receive you even though you're still young?917.539 
923DCB_se1_ag1_m_01918.091Yeah, I say in my neighborhood I know a lot of people920.312
925 920.456and920.743 
927 921.34I know a lot of older people922.435 
929 922.593cause my family /grew up/ like923.793 
931 924.385I can get a event started and I can have a lot of people come out.927.169 
933 928.187And since I'm929.035 
935 929.115from929.427 
937 929.567like, the young age I can get931.28 
939 931.396a lot of931.819 
941 932.273my people I hang with933.249 
943 933.601to come out934.198 
945 934.946and bring they friends.936.082 
947 937.471It just-938.111 
949 939.183I'll say Congress Heights growing up there is uh,941.084 
951 941.828it's a good thing942.578 
953 942.832that I can s-943.438 
955 943.565do a program or do something that945.179 
957 945.566a lot of people946.07 
959 946.206do946.458 
961 947.27but it's a bad thing because948.511 
963 948.607I have to watch my back constantly.950.411 
965 951.296Like that's the951.828 
967 952.144only952.435 
969 952.688bad thing about it.953.429 
970DCB_int_01953.969So how d- how-954.697
972 954.877how early did you feel like you had to kind of956.982 
974 957.09watch your back like how old were you when you realized like, dang I gotta like check and make sure ain't nobody gonna roll up on me?963.221 
975DCB_se1_ag1_m_01963.177Uh,963.494
976 963.673twelve.964.201
977DCB_int_01964.965What happened when you were twelve?966.246
978DCB_se1_ag1_m_01966.266Uh, my first time getting jumped for being from that neighborhood.968.899
980 969.911Me and my best friend.970.959 
982 972.882Yeah,973.202 
984 973.562walking from Congress Heights station and going home.975.767 
985DCB_int_01976.6[The Metro station?]977.418
986DCB_se1_ag1_m_01976.602[And]976.886
988 977.278[yeah.]977.612 
989 977.73And then getting jumped978.471
991 978.858for being from that hood-979.879 
993 979.995that neighborhood.980.587 
994DCB_int_01982.708And983.111
996 983.561like some guys just came and like just was [like-]985.982 
997DCB_se1_ag1_m_01985.28[/Just-/ they was] like, uh,986.732
998 987.438where you guys- where y'all from?988.765
1000 989.195That's what a lot of989.847 
1002 990.047DC people say.990.84 
1004 991.383We was like, we from Congress Heights, and they was like,993.084 
1006 993.288oh we beefing with them,994.173 
1008 994.437and they jumped us.995.229 
1009DCB_int_01996.186Like they robbed you, [or did they] beat you up?998.503
1010DCB_se1_ag1_m_01997.418[Yeah.]997.906
1011 998.523Yeah beat us up.999.311
1013 999.487Rob-999.855 
1015 1000.051robbed us.1000.602 
1017 1001.127Took our cell phones,1002.358 
1019 1002.808we was twelve and they had to been like,1004.272 
1021 1004.385at least like sixteen.1005.481 
1022DCB_int_011006.582And it was the two of you guys and how many of them?1008.402
1023DCB_se1_ag1_m_011008.526I would say about like seven.1009.715
1025 1011.151Yeah.1011.584 
1027 1012.572So that's when we had like-1013.933 
1029 1015.401that's when we started hanging out1017.022 
1031 1017.27with older people like,1018.363 
1033 1018.786we would be hanging with a certain crowd1020.197 
1035 1020.419it won't happen again.1021.343 
1037 1021.732Made me feel safe.1022.792 
1039 1023.62So yeah.1024.207 
1040DCB_int_011025.213So, okay.1025.94
1042 1026.377So now-1026.994 
1044 1027.39where'd you go to middle sc-1028.422 
1046 1028.534you went- where'd you go for mi- elementary, middle, and then1031.014 
1047DCB_se1_ag1_m_011031.067[Uh],1031.459
1048DCB_int_011031.095[we'll talk] about high school.1032.056
1049DCB_se1_ag1_m_011032.14I went to /RD-SCHOOL-5/1033.134
1050DCB_int_011033.944You went to-1034.518
1051DCB_se1_ag1_m_011034.793/RD-SCHOOL-4/ Elementary School.1036.361
1052DCB_int_011036.417Okay.1036.789
1054 1037.274Where is that?1037.702 
1055DCB_se1_ag1_m_011038.002Uh, I'll say you know where the new1040.175
1057 1040.799Eagle Academy at1041.572 
1059 1041.951on Wheeler Road? Is that Wheeler Road? Yeah, Wheeler Road.1044.248 
1060DCB_int_011044.981That sounds familiar.1046.022
1062 1046.393I [think so.]1047.049 
1063DCB_se1_ag1_m_011046.513[Yeah.]1046.893
1064 1047.834Well,1048.206
1066 1048.406it was old McGoney.1049.559 
1068 1050.447Well, /RD-SCHOOL-4/ now is a Somerset.1052.364 
1070 1052.436It's a middle school now.1053.384 
1072 1054.885Building that was there was a elementary school and I went there, /I was sent/ to uh,1058.07 
1074 1058.378kindergarten1058.91 
1076 1059.238sixth.1059.712 
1077DCB_int_011059.834Mm-hm.1060.35
1078DCB_se1_ag1_m_011060.955/And I-/ middle school I went to Jefferson.1062.512
1079DCB_int_011063.056Mm-hm.1063.548
1080DCB_se1_ag1_m_011064.192Which is over there in the Southwest.1065.705
1082 1066.621Yeah I got jumped from-1067.699 
1084 1068.302yeah.1068.694 
1086 1069.794Uh, I went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/ my high school year.1072.109 
1088 1072.275Nine through twelve.1072.96 
1089DCB_int_011073.196So tell me about /RD-SCHOOL-2/.1074.212
1091 1074.58How was-1075.072 
1093 1075.529like,1076.073 
1095 1076.201are there a lot of-1077.378 
1097 1077.698because1078.038 
1099 1078.106it's not just people from Southeast South, it's [a lot of] people from everywhere.1081.427 
1100DCB_se1_ag1_m_011079.998[Yeah.]1080.408
1102 1081.411Well /RD-SCHOOL-2/ I was like, I knew people going there so I was okay and I'm a f-1085.709 
1103 1085.897I'm a1086.205
1105 1086.593people's person so1087.577 
1107 1088.362it didn't matter which neighborhood I was in like,1090.299 
1109 1090.506they knew me like,1091.415 
1111 1091.947they wouldn't say, oh /RD-NAME-2/ not with them.1093.104 
1113 1094.28They be like,1094.708 
1115 1095.801even though he from that neighborhood he- we-1097.709 
1117 1097.857they know I'm not gonna do nothing because I want better for myself.1100.171 
1118DCB_int_011100.51Mm.1100.926
1119DCB_se1_ag1_m_011101.075Like, this year I met a freshman1102.663
1121 1103.664that-1103.917 
1123 1104.688from a neighborhood that1105.564 
1125 1105.7my1106.041 
1127 1106.253neighborhood don't like.1106.973 
1129 1107.729But they looked at me was like, oh he not1109.298 
1131 1109.614do that.1110.034 
1133 1110.206He's not gonna be that1110.917 
1135 1111.423person.1111.835 
1137 1113.335But1113.564 
1139 1113.688always had to show-1114.636 
1141 1115.264I didn't have to show them but1116.177 
1143 1116.333they knew1116.854 
1145 1117.445that1117.653 
1147 1118.181if you come at me a certain way I'm gonna protect myself.1120.113 
1148DCB_int_011120.678Right.1121.016
1150 1121.995Did you- what- did you see a lot of gangs and-1123.828 
1152 1123.92and stuff at the school?1124.78 
1153DCB_se1_ag1_m_011125.212Yeah, but-1125.552
1155 1125.86in sc- in school?1126.762 
1157 1127.857Uh,1128.273 
1159 1129.774it really was like a neighborhood sit somewhere else /with/ neighborhood like-1132.607 
1160DCB_int_011133.023So it would be segregated by neighborhoods?1134.826
1161DCB_se1_ag1_m_011134.88Yeah but some people from1136.06
1163 1136.192one neighborhood-1136.808 
1165 1137.345like I be from a neighborhood1138.577 
1167 1138.757in-1139.052 
1169 1139.442and1139.846 
1171 1139.946I'm friends with you,1140.662 
1172DCB_int_011140.926Mm-hm.1141.218
1173DCB_se1_ag1_m_011141.258so like1141.691
1175 1141.807I be like,1142.24 
1177 1142.599that's not gonna happen in school, you know like,1144.06 
1179 1144.132if it happen outside of school it's different.1145.689 
1181 1146.156But in school like we'll be cool, we even play basketball.1148.553 
1183 1149.182I play basketball with people1150.418 
1185 1151.906from neighborhoods that beef years ago1153.983 
1187 1154.936that's still happening,1155.868 
1189 1155.948I'll play basketball but1157.169 
1191 1158.705on the court it was not like that, it was like1160.822 
1193 1161.674um,1161.954 
1195 1162.819I'm playing basketball it wasn't like, oh,1164.515 
1197 1164.876if he touch me the wrong way1166.101 
1199 1166.204I'm'a- we gonna fight.1166.937 
1201 1167.553It wasn't like that.1168.193 
1202DCB_int_011168.785What was your favorite subject in school?1170.265
1203DCB_se1_ag1_m_011171.014Uh, my favorite subject1172.195
1205 1172.295is history.1173.381 
1206DCB_int_011173.543Hi- why?1174.187
1207DCB_se1_ag1_m_011174.787I don't know it like-1175.728
1209 1176.2I like hearing the history about1177.761 
1211 1177.865how far DC came and just how the world change.1180.466 
1212DCB_int_011180.674So what do you think- okay that's interesting that you talk about how1183.227
1214 1183.487like DC-1184.315 
1216 1184.764um,1185.27 
1218 1185.548what did you learn about like DC culture?1187.392 
1219DCB_se1_ag1_m_011188.249Uh,1188.658
1220DCB_int_011189.085That you thought was interesting.1190.066
1221DCB_se1_ag1_m_011190.682well,1191.346
1223 1192.55it's just like how DC changed over time.1194.703 
1225 1196.06From1196.624 
1227 1197.32being dirt roads to this1198.825 
1229 1200.278gravel now and it just how1202.447 
1231 1202.607it changed from1203.315 
1233 1203.815riding horses and carriages to1205.896 
1235 1206.272cars like,1207.112 
1237 1207.889and how the houses was.1209.105 
1239 1209.629How the first landlines was connected.1211.863 
1241 1212.922It just-1213.447 
1243 1214.007it's different cause you1214.867 
1245 1216.216like-1216.512 
1247 1217.056like if you tell me a story1217.965 
1249 1218.113I can imagine it like I can see it.1219.933 
1250DCB_int_011219.941Mm.1220.327
1251DCB_se1_ag1_m_011220.702But now if I look out there now like,1222.154
1253 1222.626it's different.1223.195 
1255 1224.299So that's why I like reading about1225.576 
1257 1226.452history.1226.9 
1258DCB_int_011228.132Do you feel1229.073
1260 1229.381a certain pride about DC like,1231.362 
1262 1231.506this is my city?1232.61 
1263DCB_se1_ag1_m_011234.587Uh,1235.159
1265 1236.672I would say1237.404 
1267 1238.096no.1238.649 
1268DCB_int_011239.377Why not?1239.733
1269DCB_se1_ag1_m_011240.277Cause like,1240.913
1271 1241.142if you come to DC1242.272 
1273 1243.09like from a different place you're like, oh DC is like where the Governor's at and all that,1246.712 
1275 1246.896President.1247.31 
1277 1248.176Then you actually see DC,1249.757 
1279 1250.701like,1250.929 
1281 1251.294go around the neighborhoods, I'm not just- not talking about1253.358 
1283 1254.755on the DC, Maryland1255.995 
1285 1256.223area I'm talking about1256.78 
1287 1257.092in DC.1257.916 
1288DCB_int_011258.2Mm-hm.1258.568
1289DCB_se1_ag1_m_011258.973If you go around the neighborhoods you'll be like, oh no I don't wanna be in DC.1261.638
1290DCB_int_011262.214Mm-hm.1262.619
1291DCB_se1_ag1_m_011263.534Like,1263.862
1293 1265.531I know people1266.209 
1295 1266.443who came from New York1267.796 
1297 1268.452and1269.001 
1299 1269.689Wisconsin who came down here.1271.001 
1301 1271.666Friends that I know play basketball with.1273.346 
1303 1274.919They were like, I ain't- we ain't coming back to DC.1276.749 
1304DCB_int_011278.06[Mm.]1278.728
1305DCB_se1_ag1_m_011278.236[They was like], never coming back here again.1279.92
1306 1281.678I say we still- my like,1282.962
1308 1283.634my friend1284.278 
1310 1284.707stayed over my house for a weekend and was like, I can't do it.1286.952 
1312 1287.78Like, [I can't] come back, cause he-1289.1 
1313DCB_int_011287.888Why?1288.253
1314DCB_se1_ag1_m_011289.821he heard so much shooting.1291.313
1316 1292.558Like he heard-1293.119 
1318 1293.302he heard it all.1294.014 
1320 1295.275He heard people,1296.067 
1322 1297.652uh,1298.144 
1324 1298.728fighting everyday.1300.057 
1326 1300.953Saw people- he saw people get stabbed,1302.73 
1328 1303.686all in a matter of1304.593 
1330 1305.111three days.1305.667 
1332 1306.279He h- he saw a lot what I face1308.204 
1334 1308.96in three days.1309.616 
1336 1310.925So1311.329 
1337DCB_int_011311.577[And that's what you] deal with everyday.1312.866
1338DCB_se1_ag1_m_011311.657[yeah.]1312.061
1339 1313.294Yes.1313.73
1340DCB_int_011315.215So how do you stay positive? How do you stay strong in that because that seems really1319.252
1342 1320.173hard.1320.889 
1344 1321.025Like, it's hard to see like your friends getting killed or1323.706 
1346 1323.822drugs or [whatever you] see1325.407 
1347DCB_se1_ag1_m_011324.454[Yeah.]1325.006
1348DCB_int_011325.523every day.1326.067
1349DCB_se1_ag1_m_011327.035I think of my little brothers like,1328.325
1351 1329.72the faster I reach my goals the faster they can get out.1332.294 
1353 1333.39[That's what] keep me positive and /RD-NAME-4/1335.587 
1354DCB_int_011333.394[Mm.]1333.682
1355DCB_se1_ag1_m_011336.059won't let me.1336.804
1357 1337.159Like,1337.439 
1359 1337.888even if I w-1338.376 
1361 1338.828thought about doing something stupid1339.965 
1363 1340.833he'd put his foot in my throat real quick.1342.405 
1365 1342.873Like-1343.181 
1366DCB_int_011345.022Why do you respect him so much?1346.521
1367DCB_se1_ag1_m_011346.847Because-1347.508
1369 1349.656I'll say I respect him a lot because it just1351.949 
1371 1352.785whatever you go through he won't-1354.149 
1373 1355.586he won't down talk you.1356.647 
1374DCB_int_011357.107Mm-hm.1357.595
1375DCB_se1_ag1_m_011358.3Like,1358.62
1377 1360.072say if1361.159 
1379 1362.005I just1362.529 
1381 1362.673came from j- fighting.1363.998 
1383 1364.702Come down here1365.366 
1385 1365.658if I tell him,1366.271 
1387 1367.551he would be like- he will talk you, he would- he won't1369.708 
1389 1370.16yell at you but he'll talk to you about it like he1372.197 
1391 1373.113will1373.519 
1393 1374.402show you that it's not1375.159 
1395 1375.862f- good to fight but if it comes down to it1378.051 
1397 1378.46if you had to protect yourself it's different but now,1380.68 
1399 1381.62like I got in a altercation a couple days ago,1383.896 
1401 1385.334and he was like, that's not-1386.391 
1403 1386.715cause1387.017 
1405 1387.171people don't fight with their hands no more.1388.432 
1407 1389.688Like,1389.904 
1409 1390.044people1390.521 
1411 1390.7d- either you gonna get shot or you gonna get stabbed.1392.553 
1413 1394.394Like1394.678 
1415 1395.242that's why I respect him and it's that1396.647 
1417 1397.567don't matter1398.167 
1419 1399.612what you been through1400.348 
1421 1400.528you can feel at home.1401.777 
1423 1402.401And1402.809 
1425 1404.133I would say1404.697 
1427 1405.706you might not /think of him/ like, oh,1407.203 
1429 1408.031I can't talk to /RD-NAME-4/ cause he gonna go tell somebody about it.1410.568 
1431 1411.008But it's not that.1411.761 
1433 1412.233What you tell him is confidential.1413.569 
1435 1414.514Like that's why I respect him because it's a lot of people1416.599 
1437 1417.395who need1417.995 
1439 1418.147people like that1418.807 
1441 1418.951in- in a world and it's1420.175 
1443 1421.832not a lot of people you can do that to-1423.345 
1445 1424.141you can't talk to.1424.847 
1447 1426.114Like I can talk to my little cousin too.1427.611 
1449 1428.703Like at first I didn't even know that was my cousin when I first came down here.1431.004 
1451 1432.696But now I can talk to her1433.801 
1453 1434.401even though she my little cousin1435.545 
1455 1436.458she been through more I'll say educational experience than I have been.1439.892 
1457 1440.624So it's- I can talk to her about1442.144 
1459 1443.469the streets and what not to do and she can talk to me about school and what to do.1447.302 
1460DCB_int_011447.891[Right.]1448.263
1461DCB_se1_ag1_m_011448.111[So] yeah.1448.707
1462DCB_int_011449.019So y'all kind of share [informa- or exchange] information.1451.72
1463DCB_se1_ag1_m_011450.364[Yeah.]1450.876
1464DCB_int_011452.048What do you feel like is a piece of advice you gave her like kind of1454.722
1466 1455.357um,1456.075 
1468 1456.826to protect yourself like,1458.139 
1470 1458.627cause it's- it's real.1459.651 
1471DCB_se1_ag1_m_011459.795Yeah.1460.23
1473 1460.323Sh-1460.644 
1475 1460.74I- she had a incident where she actually got jumped coming down here.1463.636 
1477 1465.198And1465.63 
1479 1465.785I know how our family is like,1467.55 
1481 1468.747her sister came down here ready to fight, her mom did, it's just not-1471.716 
1483 1473.525And we had to- /RD-NAME-4/1475.017 
1485 1475.109and myself had to calm them down and tell 'em,1477.214 
1487 1478.014after they calmed me down first,1479.571 
1489 1479.679well,1480.051 
1491 1480.663I told 'em1481.235 
1493 1481.468like,1481.692 
1495 1481.884it's not-1482.272 
1497 1482.636It's gonna be another problem.1483.648 
1499 1484.549Cause they know how she look1485.497 
1501 1485.626and if y'all go around there1486.794 
1503 1486.906with her1487.414 
1505 1487.89it's gonna be a different thing.1488.985 
1507 1490.639But1490.884 
1509 1490.988now I just tell her protect herself at all times, don't-1493.477 
1511 1494.585like,1494.869 
1513 1495.745if you see a group of people coming or you see1498.607 
1515 1499.187something that does-1500.143 
1517 1500.507about to be playing1501.423 
1519 1502.428like just1503.111 
1521 1503.884find the quickest way1504.753 
1523 1505.329to get out the situation.1506.322 
1524DCB_int_011508.795How did you feel when you graduated from high school?1511.152
1525DCB_se1_ag1_m_011512.136It's a big /relieval/ it was like,1514.065
1527 1514.661a lot of weight came off of my shoulders.1516.51 
1529 1517.566But now in- being a,1518.63 
1531 1518.722um,1519.04 
1533 1519.283I'll say a young man who wanted1520.776 
1535 1521.239to be successful,1522.028 
1537 1522.46it's a whole different1523.708 
1539 1524.261ball game cause I don't have-1525.305 
1541 1526.105first of all I gotta finds a way1527.373 
1543 1527.55to provide for myself.1528.666 
1544DCB_int_011529.114Mm-hm.1529.523
1545DCB_se1_ag1_m_011529.871And yeah.1530.711
1547 1531.211It just-1531.688 
1549 1532.396it was different.1532.944 
1550DCB_int_011533.316Do you work now?1533.988
1551DCB_se1_ag1_m_011534.637No but I'm looking for jobs now,1536.401
1553 1536.766as of right now.1537.262 
1555 1537.61I'm doing SYEP1538.815 
1556DCB_int_011539.134[Mm-hm.]1539.463
1557DCB_se1_ag1_m_011539.218[right now], Summer Youth1540.219
1558 1540.331Employment1540.843
1560 1541.423right now, but I'm also looking for jobs.1543.174 
1561DCB_int_011543.94What do you wanna-1544.486
1563 1544.677kind of what do you wanna work in now? Like if you can get into-1547.71 
1565 1547.802you wanna try to get into IT now or you [wanna try] something else [before you do that?]1551.451 
1566DCB_se1_ag1_m_011549.751[Uh],1550.059
1568 1550.787[I'm'a wait- I'm'a] wait til March like,1552.472 
1569 1553.496I'm'a work until March and then do IT.1555.617
1570DCB_int_011556.517So you just wanna kind of get any kind of job just to kind [of bring some money] in. [Are you still] staying at home?1560.667
1571DCB_se1_ag1_m_011558.506[Yeah just-]1559.25
1573 1559.651[Uh-huh.]1560.027 
1574 1561.031Yeah.1561.367
1575DCB_int_011561.815That's good.1562.356
1577 1562.964That's you got1563.532 
1579 1563.664you know [that support] system.1564.925 
1580DCB_se1_ag1_m_011563.982[Mm-hm.]1564.348
1581DCB_int_011565.237How did your mom feel when she saw you graduate?1567.309
1582DCB_se1_ag1_m_011568.026She was happy.1568.627
1584 1569.466She- I'm the first one to come out the household to graduate.1571.843 
1585DCB_int_011572.107Mm-hm.1572.548
1587 1572.868And what about your little brothers?1574.242 
1588DCB_se1_ag1_m_011574.892<laugh> They made me cry.1576.641
1590 1577.513Like1577.75 
1592 1577.926they-1578.398 
1594 1579.254like, I'm proud of you,1580.142 
1596 1580.334all that.1580.724 
1597DCB_int_011582.331Do you remember-1583.296
1599 1583.604so thinking back cause it's about what, f-1585.561 
1601 1585.713six year gap between you and your youngest brother-1587.802 
1603 1588.326or your younger brother,1589.374 
1605 1590.247what did you do as a child? Do you remember d- like, did you jump rope, hopscotch? Well I guess that's more girl [stuff.]1595.309 
1606DCB_se1_ag1_m_011594.956[Yeah.]1595.402
1607DCB_int_011595.465Did [you like]1596.143
1608DCB_se1_ag1_m_011595.653[Uh-]1596.145
1609DCB_int_011596.497do jacks?1597.958
1610DCB_se1_ag1_m_011598.006Basketball.1598.658
1612 1598.802That's-1599.19 
1613DCB_int_011599.318[Basketball.]1599.883
1614DCB_se1_ag1_m_011599.33[that's what] we all have in common all three of us.1601.323
1615 1601.743Or sports in general.1602.734
1617 1603.952[Like-]1604.376 
1618DCB_int_011604.06[And you just] reffed the game.1605.305
1619DCB_se1_ag1_m_011605.633Yeah. <laugh>1606.385
1621 1606.825And [/there's reffing/]1607.674 
1622DCB_int_011606.985[And how'd you get into] that? Is that just something you do for the little kid- like [how did you get] into1611.217
1623DCB_se1_ag1_m_011610.082[Mm.]1610.591
1624 1611.635[Well],1612.041
1625DCB_int_011611.759[being a] ref?1612.465
1626DCB_se1_ag1_m_011613.111basically whatever like1614.464
1628 1615.224that's gonna help the kids I'll do it.1616.637 
1629DCB_int_011617.265Mm-hm.1617.669
1630DCB_se1_ag1_m_011618.422Like if you tell me I'll1619.918
1632 1620.586take the kids outside it can be ninety degrees I'm'a complain but I will still do it.1623.932 
1634 1624.668Like it's just like whatever benefits the kids that's what I'm'a do.1627.021 
1636 1627.457And basketball1628.293 
1638 1629.366it's a lot of people way out of1631.08 
1640 1631.295problems at home or sports period.1632.937 
1641DCB_int_011633.699Mm-hm.1634.081
1643 1635.656Do you think-1636.348 
1645 1636.677do you think you see some of these little kids and you think about yourself when you like, oh I remember1641.175 
1647 1641.346when I was- I wish I had Boys and Girls Club?1643.487 
1648DCB_se1_ag1_m_011643.487Yeah when I was younger I wasn't here like, I ain't even know this existed.1646.545
1649 1647.569But1647.829
1651 1648.253now I'm saying like,1649.312 
1653 1650.094a lot of people-1650.754 
1655 1650.886a lot of kids here1651.696 
1657 1652.931the way how they behave here and stuff it's like1654.532 
1659 1656.248they need1656.808 
1661 1657.426guidance now1658.543 
1663 1658.743because when they get older,1659.647 
1665 1660.28your attitude's gonna get worse.1661.521 
1667 1662.811The streets gonna1663.791 
1669 1663.895grab you cause your attitude's worse.1665.641 
1671 1666.969Like1667.241 
1673 1668.653yeah, that's gonna be your first option.1669.978 
1675 1670.97Cause if you get into it with your mother she put you out.1673.055 
1677 1673.871Only way you-1674.487 
1679 1674.828you have is the streets.1676.008 
1680DCB_int_011676.332Mm.1676.632
1681DCB_se1_ag1_m_011676.96So,1677.293
1683 1677.497a lot of-1677.881 
1685 1678.077I'll say a lot of kids here need to-1679.437 
1687 1679.898/not a-/ a lot of the teens here1681.178 
1689 1681.418just need to get their life1682.683 
1691 1683.251together.1683.792 
1693 1684.183Find out what they wanna do1685.232 
1695 1685.468and /unintelligible/ at a young age1687.005 
1696DCB_int_011688.085So you said your dad was locked up for what, seven years?1691.057
1697DCB_se1_ag1_m_011691.262[Mm-hm.]1691.626
1698DCB_int_011691.422So what kind of relationship do you have with your dad?1693.539
1699DCB_se1_ag1_m_011693.551Right now1694.175
1701 1694.451I live with my dad1695.204 
1703 1695.548so it's like1696.06 
1705 1696.384we have a bond cause I can understand why1698.824 
1707 1699.377he was locked up,1700.154 
1709 1700.314but I still don't1701.482 
1711 1702.446defeat the purpose that1703.371 
1713 1703.575he was gone in my life seven years.1705.178 
1714DCB_int_011705.608Mm.1705.836
1715DCB_se1_ag1_m_011706.656It's1706.913
1717 1707.024like, you wanted to provide for us but you did it the wrong way.1709.441 
1718DCB_int_011710.366Was it drugs?1711.21
1719DCB_se1_ag1_m_011711.214Yeah.1711.478
1720DCB_int_011714.095Do you see that often in like-1715.62
1722 1716.324do you see that as a kind of a l-1717.584 
1724 1717.668a lot in your neighborhood or [even just]1719.437 
1725DCB_se1_ag1_m_011719.033[Uh-huh.]1719.393
1726DCB_int_011719.529around DC do you see [drugs] as like a big-1721.818
1727DCB_se1_ag1_m_011720.638[Yeah.]1721.018
1728 1722.314A big thing.1723.158
1730 1724.339It's a big thing because1725.516 
1732 1726.288a lot of people1727.177 
1734 1727.952who hang around with-1728.751 
1736 1730.173way like a story my father told it was like one day-1732.49 
1738 1732.998how he got into it he was like one day his best friend1735.448 
1740 1736.464had a thousand dollars,1737.884 
1742 1738.052he was like,1738.523 
1744 1740.077you only1740.679 
1746 1741.702fourteen, whatchu doing with a thousand dollars?1743.323 
1748 1743.943/He was/ like,1744.419 
1750 1744.987I was selling weed and selling1746.378 
1752 1747.076crack and selling like1748.092 
1754 1748.384different drugs and all that.1749.777 
1756 1750.625My father's like,1751.278 
1758 1751.414oh,1751.746 
1760 1752.772I might have a child1753.653 
1762 1753.745so I /had to/ hurry up and get money.1755.377 
1763DCB_int_011755.995[Mm-hm.]1756.425
1764DCB_se1_ag1_m_011756.111[And that's when] he1756.577
1765 1756.704fell too.1757.228
1766DCB_int_011758.685Yeah.1759.129
1768 1759.885And how long did he do that?1761.093 
1769DCB_se1_ag1_m_011762.85Mm-mm.1763.495
1771 1764.159Til I was1765.414 
1773 1765.787what,1766.079 
1775 1766.844/think/ he got locked up when-1767.6 
1777 1767.74when I was eight.1768.312 
1778DCB_int_011770.145Hm.1770.465
1779DCB_se1_ag1_m_011770.449Yeah.1770.884
1780DCB_int_011772.038And what-1772.406
1782 1772.766what message-1773.59 
1784 1773.794if you could leave one message1775.311 
1786 1775.799to your little brothers or to some of the kids here1778.68 
1788 1779.192or even people your age, what would you say to them? Like what would that message be?1783.066 
1789DCB_se1_ag1_m_011783.986Chase your dreams early.1785.294
1791 1786.355Like don't let nobody hold you back.1787.972 
1793 1788.152And don't let nobody1789.184 
1795 1789.449get1789.645 
1797 1789.841in your skin1790.517 
1799 1790.961about what you wanna do.1792.013 
1801 1792.313If you wanna go to a specific college as1794.466 
1803 1794.571of1794.848 
1805 1795.667/a age range/1796.511 
1807 1796.687just go.1797.28 
1809 1797.84No matter /as if/ close or far.1799.377 
1811 1800.245I would tell little kids1801.445 
1813 1802.466like, listen to your parents cause at the end of the day those the only person-1805.138 
1815 1805.355only people that's gonna care about you.1806.779 
1817 1807.235Listen to your family.1808.201 
1819 1809.52And just1810.174 
1821 1810.305chase your dreams like chase what you wanna do1812.414 
1823 1813.278because nothing is handed to you in this world, you gotta take it.1816.059 
1824DCB_int_011816.575Mm.1816.959
1826 1817.832So let's talk a little bit about your family, I know you talked about your1820.293 
1828 1820.505brothers and your mom and your1821.669 
1830 1821.769dad,1822.157 
1832 1822.333<clears throat> do you have other family here?1823.8 
1834 1824.643Like,1825.015 
1836 1825.279[aunts], [uncles?]1826.567 
1837DCB_se1_ag1_m_011825.571[An-]1825.739
1839 1826.343[Yeah]1826.778 
1840 1827.019aunts,1827.49
1842 1828.124uncles,1828.853 
1844 1829.484yeah.1829.778 
1845DCB_int_011829.92C- lot of cousins? Do [y'all get] together regularly like do y'all watch the basketball games together [or do y'all do] like Sunday [dinner?]1835.523
1846DCB_se1_ag1_m_011830.933[Yeah.]1831.181
1848 1834.034[Uh],1834.514 
1850 1835.21[well]1835.558 
1851 1835.899my two uncles on my mom's side,1837.56
1853 1838.696mm one of my uncles live in Pennsylvania and one of my uncles live in Delaware so I barely see them.1842.787 
1854DCB_int_011842.881Mm-hm.1843.198
1855DCB_se1_ag1_m_011843.478Well one of my aunts she live in my neighborhood, well my mom's neighborhood.1846.791
1857 1848.096And1848.336 
1859 1848.468/it was/ like,1848.86 
1861 1849.304every once and a while.1850.1 
1863 1851.161I see her like every weekend.1852.346 
1865 1852.501Or every other weekend,1853.425 
1867 1853.622everybody get together at my grandma house1855.242 
1869 1856.011and just1856.469 
1871 1856.611talk.1856.903 
1873 1857.231Find out1857.755 
1875 1857.959what's the problem, stuff like that.1859.245 
1877 1859.776But we do have social media and stuff I can keep contact in.1862.493 
1879 1863.394[Yeah.]1863.822 
1880DCB_int_011863.522[What's your] favorite social media site?1864.842
1881DCB_se1_ag1_m_011865.29Uh, Instagram.1866.307
1882DCB_int_011866.771Why?1867.087
1883DCB_se1_ag1_m_011867.607Cause1868.055
1885 1868.336like1868.597 
1887 1869.048most of my family put up pictures of my little cousins and all that so I can see 'em.1872.289 
1889 1872.861Even though I ain't meet 'em yet, I can see 'em.1874.539 
1890DCB_int_011874.918Mm-hm.1875.275
1891DCB_se1_ag1_m_011875.378But yeah.1875.926
1892DCB_int_011876.867What do you think1877.723
1894 1878.363um-1879.009 
1896 1880.204so you have- okay so y'all get together, y'all just talk,1882.817 
1898 1882.993where does your grandma live?1883.858 
1899DCB_se1_ag1_m_011884.682Uh, literally right across the street from my mom.1886.675
1900DCB_int_011886.915Oh okay, in the same [neighborhood.]1888.72
1901DCB_se1_ag1_m_011888.403[Yeah.]1888.787
1902DCB_int_011888.795Okay.1889.158
1904 1889.676Um,1890.223 
1906 1890.56so now you live with your dad,1891.954 
1907DCB_se1_ag1_m_011892.057Mm-hm.1892.321
1908DCB_int_011892.365in-1892.704
1910 1892.825in Congress Heights, where does your mom l-1894.23 
1911DCB_se1_ag1_m_011893.978[Oh] no, my dad1894.79
1912 1894.998lives1895.296
1914 1895.426uh, in-1895.994 
1916 1896.29in Northeast.1896.863 
1917DCB_int_011897.043Oh your dad lives in what neighborhood?1898.404
1918DCB_se1_ag1_m_011898.643/RD-ADDRESS-3/.1899.224
1919DCB_int_011899.732So-1900.076
1921 1900.48Okay wait a minute.1901.281 
1923 1901.705So is that-1902.265 
1925 1902.877That's also different [right? If] you-1904.774 
1926DCB_se1_ag1_m_011903.918[Yeah.]1904.344
1927DCB_int_011905.338h- s-1905.63
1928DCB_se1_ag1_m_011905.866[It's uh-]1906.218
1929DCB_int_011905.934[So are] you there all the time or you with your mom- how- you split time?1908.907
1930DCB_se1_ag1_m_011908.899I'm1909.317
1931 1909.516mostly here1910.52
1933 1910.652at the [/RD-WORK-4/]1911.706 
1934DCB_int_011910.843[Mm-hm.]1911.146
1935DCB_se1_ag1_m_011912.353then I'll probably go home1913.737
1937 1914.782for a little while,1915.41 
1939 1915.642or I'll probably go see my little brother stay at my mom house.1917.659 
1941 1918.055So I'm not-1918.611 
1943 1919.115it's like a1919.551 
1945 1919.688even thing,1920.296 
1947 1920.432I'm not with really more one place more than the other.1922.433 
1948DCB_int_011922.777So how do you-1923.372
1950 1923.573okay,1923.889 
1952 1924.093do you-1924.485 
1954 1925.254is it different when you go to your dad's neighb- [like],1927.453 
1955DCB_se1_ag1_m_011927.167[Yeah] [<laugh> different.]1928.527
1956DCB_int_011927.867[How is that?] Like, [cause you not] from that area.1930.268
1957DCB_se1_ag1_m_011928.927[It's like-]1929.373
1959 1930.244It's more1930.727 
1960 1930.8qu-1930.984
1962 1931.076it's quiet because I-1931.949 
1964 1932.172I went around there when I was little so1933.849 
1966 1934.309like,1934.521 
1968 1934.682now I'm not little but1935.674 
1970 1935.934I know a lot of people there too.1937.135 
1972 1937.318So it's not1937.971 
1974 1938.659like, oh he new f- he a new face, I'm not a new face but it's just that-1941.571 
1976 1943.285I'm a cool person like I'm not1944.7 
1978 1944.921gonna1945.339 
1980 1946.114come around somebody else neighborhood and start problems1948.243 
1982 1948.843because that's not1949.507 
1984 1949.667why I came, I came to live my life and1951.651 
1986 1952.961get through my life like.1954.289 
1988 1955.822Well,1956.18 
1990 1956.402something on social media about DC,1958.313 
1992 1958.943it was like,1959.503 
1994 1961.408DC1962.168 
1996 1962.749is like-1963.513 
1998 1963.761I'm trying to remember.1964.503 
2000 1967.022If you don't live your life you've got to survive your life.1969.515 
2002 1970.808Like,1971.116 
2004 1971.244you can't just walk around the neighborhood.1973.393 
2006 1974.853You can't just go anywhere you want to in DC you have to-1976.962 
2008 1977.558like, oh I can't go in that neighborhood cause certain things, like,1979.743 
2010 1979.847you have to be1980.469 
2012 1980.908aware twenty four seven even in-1982.785 
2014 1983.316even when you in your house /you gotta/ be aware.1985.127 
2015DCB_int_011986.174Do you feel like that's true?1987.358
2016DCB_se1_ag1_m_011988.935Yes,1989.535
2018 1989.627I do.1990.09 
2019DCB_int_011990.175Even when you're at home you don't even feel safe?1991.8
2020DCB_se1_ag1_m_011992.464No, cause a lot of things, stray bullets,1994.501
2022 1996.066uh,1996.562 
2024 1997.826breaking and entering like stuff like that.1999.64 
2026 2000.715You stay gotta be aware.2001.711 
2027DCB_int_012002.92Wow.2003.262
2028DCB_se1_ag1_m_012004.517Like one time2005.713
2030 2006.574/mm/ somebody tried to break in my grandad's house.2008.322 
2032 2010.923Yeah that's how serious it is.2012.569 
2033DCB_int_012013.592And this- t- this happens- this is not anything2015.92
2035 2016.029out of the n- ordinary like [this could] happen any2018.15 
2036DCB_se1_ag1_m_012017.214[Nope.]2017.478
2037DCB_int_012018.262random Tuesday?2019.274
2038DCB_se1_ag1_m_012019.499Yeah any day it can just happen.2020.928
2040 2022.824Like you have to change up your schedule like2024.75 
2042 2025.565if they know you get off at a certain time2027.03 
2044 2027.93you have to make sure someone in your house.2029.303 
2046 2030.207Like you can't just leave here like you can't just go out of town.2032.371 
2048 2033.728Be gone a month2034.869 
2050 2034.997and think you gonna come home2036.177 
2052 2036.269and think your stuff gonna be there.2037.346 
2054 2039.238Like you probably come home2040.544 
2056 2040.643and your stuff is gone.2041.668 
2058 2043.488Like2043.796 
2060 2044.048yeah.2044.364 
2061DCB_int_012044.385Why do you feel like it's like- okay I know we not- I- so we gonna move off of that but that's just so interesting to me like to hear2050.059
2063 2051.051you say this cause this is not something you just started noticing either I'm sure you did- you've noticed this all your [life.]2056.061 
2064DCB_se1_ag1_m_012055.917[Yeah.]2056.233
2065 2056.869Well like /once ? around/2057.846
2067 2058.01that happened around my dad- around my grandfather's neighborhood2060.259 
2069 2060.963is2061.239 
2070DCB_int_012061.391And [what is- what's his] neighborhood?2062.636
2071DCB_se1_ag1_m_012061.611[the w-]2062.083
2073 2062.516uh,2062.724 
2074 2062.808Twenty first, [that's where he's at]2064.008
2075DCB_int_012063.432[Okay that's-]2064.009
2076 2064.148Oh [that's the Northeast] okay okay.2065.493
2077DCB_se1_ag1_m_012064.453[Yeah.]2064.754
2078 2065.521So2066.061
2080 2066.405a- a whole building2067.484 
2082 2068.23went out of power2068.907 
2084 2069.122I mean not-2069.579 
2086 2069.667the water2070.259 
2088 2070.371main,2070.743 
2090 2070.843/like the/ water pipes were messed up.2072.136 
2091DCB_int_012072.235Mm-hm.2072.595
2092DCB_se1_ag1_m_012072.912And they had to shut the building down2073.956
2094 2074.096and move 'em.2074.659 
2096 2075.237And people was coming2076.253 
2098 2076.689like,2076.897 
2100 2077.45even though there's nobody there there's chains on the door2079.64 
2102 2080.759and locks.2081.244 
2104 2081.603They was breaking the locks2082.764 
2106 2083.044and going in people house2084.192 
2108 2084.56taking things.2085.245 
2109DCB_int_012087.754So now think about how the city- I don't know if you're-2090.002
2111 2090.102like if you2091.031 
2113 2091.379notice or if you see how the city is changing cause you're2094.428 
2115 2094.508still fairly [young],2095.639 
2116DCB_se1_ag1_m_012095.305[Mm.]2095.649
2117DCB_int_012096.021um, but this used to be Chocolate City.2097.618
2118DCB_se1_ag1_m_012097.958[Yeah.]2098.298
2119DCB_int_012098.018[And now] like if you get out of ward seven and eight2100.411
2120 2101.039[it's very different.]2102.076
2121DCB_se1_ag1_m_012101.163[It's different.]2102.083
2122 2102.211Like2102.423
2124 2102.679Eighth Street over on the Northeast side is way different.2105.493 
2126 2105.861in the daytime you see2107.293 
2128 2107.849crackheads, you see people hustling.2109.596 
2130 2110.503Then at night it's2111.515 
2132 2112.167I say all vanilla like it's no really black people.2115.481 
2134 2117.113Like2117.473 
2136 2117.753and it's only-2118.289 
2138 2119.122like, only person I see black people2120.752 
2140 2120.878it's /when/ they stand there in front of Popeyes and those are crackheads or2123.752 
2142 2124.124homeless people asking for food.2125.285 
2144 2126.044That's the only time.2126.819 
2145DCB_int_012128.678And why do you think that is the case? Or do you see that anywhere else?2131.983
2146DCB_se1_ag1_m_012132.563Uh,2133.161
2147DCB_int_012133.515Like-2133.804
2148DCB_se1_ag1_m_012134.016I don't really go2135.028
2150 2135.132all like2135.64 
2152 2136.069/around/ but2136.921 
2154 2137.805now I don't2138.667 
2156 2138.91but-2139.198 
2158 2141.051I would say it's like that on Eighth Street because2142.749 
2160 2143.471I'll say-2143.924 
2162 2145.676but I'm not gonna s- speak every black person but2147.789 
2164 2148.297as me2149.026 
2166 2150.186I'll say2150.774 
2168 2151.21as my range-2152.195 
2170 2152.287or my age range what I see2153.351 
2172 2153.992is2154.336 
2174 2154.96black kids fear white people.2156.745 
2176 2159.046I would say from my opinion that's what we feel.2161.042 
2178 2161.471Because on Eighth Street like you can see a lot of teens2163.98 
2180 2165.04then when that's like2166.019 
2182 2166.252time it get dark,2167.121 
2184 2167.537you gonna be around your neighborhood,2168.797 
2186 2169.69be at a party somewhere,2170.83 
2188 2173.203Yeah that's the only two.2174.208 
2190 2174.584You not gonna be2175.124 
2192 2175.284roaming the streets.2176.116 
2193DCB_int_012177.997Do you feel like-2178.765
2195 2179.213you said2179.722 
2197 2180.174black people fear white teens? Or do [black teens] feel-2183.119 
2198DCB_se1_ag1_m_012182.271[No like-]2182.799
2199 2183.275black teens fear2184.428
2201 2184.608white2184.892 
2203 2185.224adults.2185.744 
2204DCB_int_012186.764Do you feel like a lot of that's2187.873
2206 2188.085because of what's happening in the new- with [all the police] and stuff?2190.61 
2207DCB_se1_ag1_m_012189.629[Mm-hm.]2190.107
2208 2190.822It's like2191.235
2210 2191.406a lot of things happening.2192.579 
2212 2193.803So they be like,2194.7 
2214 2195.22oh I'm not trying to be in that predicament.2196.76 
2216 2198.301Or2198.728 
2218 2200.526it be like, if it's a group of black kids walking dow- like I'll give example, if a group of black kids walking down Eighth Street2205.856 
2220 2206.464it's all white people.2207.303 
2222 2207.985They gonna be like-2208.493 
2224 2209.345they gonna feel2210.071 
2226 2210.682like2210.962 
2228 2211.222this not even they city no more.2212.438 
2230 2212.887They gonna feel like2213.503 
2232 2214.131new.2214.63 
2234 2215.915There's gonna-2216.38 
2236 2216.712the way their environment is is gonna make 'em wanna do something stupid like,2219.801 
2238 2221.674Oh let's rob him2222.683 
2240 2223.239because he got the new iPhone.2224.499 
2242 2225.664Like that's how it is, like2226.796 
2244 2228.393that's why2229.134 
2246 2229.465I say2229.997 
2248 2231.314black kid-2232.09 
2250 2232.23black teens fear white people.2233.883 
2252 2235.087Because I- I think they're jealous of their like2237.092 
2254 2237.172not success but2238.105 
2256 2239.045they're more successful s- than them.2240.413 
2257DCB_int_012244.251So2244.635
2259 2245.595let's- let's move away for that- from that for a second.2248.028 
2261 2248.901What's your favorite book?2249.893 
2263 2249.977Or your favorite TV show2251.162 
2265 2251.374and why?2251.862 
2266DCB_se1_ag1_m_012252.058<laugh>2252.55
2268 2252.994I /um-/ I like to laugh so I say like2254.965 
2270 2256.191I watch MTV or BET.2257.82 
2272 2258.076I like to laugh a lot.2259.167 
2273DCB_int_012259.949Do you have a favorite show2260.846
2275 2260.918on either of those channels?2262.026 
2276DCB_se1_ag1_m_012261.978Uh, Ridiculousness like,2263.31
2277 2263.623a video it's like2264.607
2279 2265.507basically like2266.115 
2281 2267.132they show videos from YouTube2268.392 
2283 2268.496that was funny2269.145 
2285 2269.225and they talk about it like stuff like that.2270.837 
2286DCB_int_012272.306Um,2272.851
2288 2273.346what do you think-2274.255 
2290 2275.975where- oh,2276.51 
2292 2276.892you said about going out,2278.14 
2294 2278.512do you listen to go go music?2279.549 
2295DCB_se1_ag1_m_012279.977No.2280.293
2296DCB_int_012280.909No?2281.157
2297DCB_se1_ag1_m_012281.305No.2281.605
2298DCB_int_012282.05Why not?2282.37
2299DCB_se1_ag1_m_012282.486It's not music to me.2283.467
2300DCB_int_012283.879It's not? Why not? That's very interesting.2285.476
2301DCB_se1_ag1_m_012285.591It's just-2286.231
2303 2288.036it's just drum- like music to me is like-2290.32 
2305 2291.733like my fav- one of my favorite artists2293.51 
2307 2293.794is Lyfe Jennings.2294.731 
2308DCB_int_012294.939Hm.2295.215
2309DCB_se1_ag1_m_012296.111Cause he2296.692
2311 2298.2he talk about what you been through2299.429 
2313 2300.097and how2300.589 
2315 2300.993he is now.2301.801 
2317 2303.258Like2303.53 
2319 2303.642one of my songs is Made Up My Mind.2305.419 
2321 2305.943They talk about2306.548 
2323 2306.652how2307.112 
2325 2307.216church people2307.921 
2327 2308.944talk about people2309.772 
2329 2309.933and they do the same thing.2310.881 
2330DCB_int_012311.185Mm-hm.2311.581
2331DCB_se1_ag1_m_012312.29So yeah I like2313.356
2333 2313.502old R and B2314.407 
2335 2314.663like2314.963 
2337 2315.627Sam Cooke,2316.371 
2339 2316.571Boyz II Men stuff like that.2318.065 
2340DCB_int_012318.489Okay you [trying to be] like nineties, trying to be.2322.243
2341DCB_se1_ag1_m_012319.308[<laugh>]2319.789
2342 2322.642[<laugh>]2322.998
2343DCB_int_012322.806[Early] two thousands.2324.659
2344 2325.343Um,2325.891
2346 2326.671so no go go,2327.688 
2348 2327.864what about2328.38 
2350 2328.724mumbo sauce?2329.547 
2351DCB_se1_ag1_m_012330.136[Yeah. <laugh>]2330.769
2352DCB_int_012330.356[That's a very DC thing, right? You can't get] that anywhere else. [Tell me about] where is your favorite place to get your mumbo sauce?2336.259
2353DCB_se1_ag1_m_012331.265[Yeah. Yeah.]2332.626
2355 2333.462[No.]2333.81 
2356 2336.995Mm just any carry out2338.532
2358 2338.88[place with- yeah] any carry out.2340.157 
2359DCB_int_012338.912[Any carry out?]2339.581
2360 2340.333So how do you order- how- what do you order when you2342.314
2362 2342.466get your-2342.864 
2364 2343.315how do you order it? Like if I was trying to go and order me some-2346.02 
2365DCB_se1_ag1_m_012346.807Uh,2347.243
2367 2347.347it's basically a topping.2348.596 
2369 2349.232Like if you want chicken you like, can I get chicken with mumbo sauce, or2352.071 
2371 2352.533you want some fries, I get mumbo sauce on that too.2354.542 
2373 2354.838It's like a topping, basically.2356.085 
2374DCB_int_012357.547And do you have a favorite carry out or just2359.736
2376 2359.896any of 'em?2360.529 
2377DCB_se1_ag1_m_012360.876Any carry out.2361.431
2378DCB_int_012362.717Um,2363.222
2380 2363.634and then2364.294 
2382 2364.63let me ask you this, do you feel like2366.759 
2384 2366.839there's anything other than like, mumbo sauce and go go that make DC unique?2371.453 
2385DCB_se1_ag1_m_012372.757Yeah.2373.075
2386DCB_int_012373.442What?2373.666
2387DCB_se1_ag1_m_012374.758Teens like-2375.386
2389 2376.843it's a v-2377.355 
2391 2377.499lot of talented teens2378.83 
2393 2379.044with gifts.2379.664 
2395 2380.432But they don't know how to use 'em.2381.604 
2396DCB_int_012382.197Mm.2382.638
2397DCB_se1_ag1_m_012383.49Like,2383.759
2399 2384.258I know people who can sing like2385.77 
2401 2386.014n-2386.367 
2403 2386.523like2386.839 
2405 2387.223anybody never heard2388.343 
2407 2388.863like they just sing.2389.858 
2409 2390.648But when it's time for them like,2391.781 
2411 2391.965if I be like, see you sing2393.266 
2413 2393.806in front of me they'd be shy.2394.743 
2415 2396.167Like, oh maybe I don't sound right to you.2397.603 
2417 2397.959Cause2398.255 
2419 2398.451DC got a lot of people-2399.671 
2421 2399.8like I feel as though2400.636 
2423 2402.129a lot of people wanna judge you2403.285 
2425 2403.529no matter what you is.2404.726 
2426DCB_int_012405.178Mm-hm.2405.738
2427DCB_se1_ag1_m_012405.754You can be successful they be like,2406.93
2429 2408.271oh look at him he-2409.151 
2431 2409.676he's successful but he's dirty, or s- he's successful but2412.277 
2433 2413.041he don't have um,2413.515 
2435 2413.733he-2414.125 
2437 2414.726he don't have no parents, like2415.722 
2439 2416.018whatever you do, somebody's still gonna judge you regardless.2418.493 
2440DCB_int_012418.779Right.2419.071
2441DCB_se1_ag1_m_012419.812That's what2420.344
2443 2421.136my generation fear.2422.158 
2445 2423.785It- you- they can say, I don't let nobody get to me I do what I want to,2426.743 
2447 2427.555but you do2428.439 
2449 2428.951and you don't know it.2429.788 
2450DCB_int_012432.409What- I heard that s- um, and I didn't-2434.61
2452 2435.162I didn't get to he- I didn't get to hear any details but I heard you gave some great speech?2438.631 
2453DCB_se1_ag1_m_012439.179<laugh>2439.648
2455 2440.204[Well it's- it wasn't] basically-2441.988 
2456DCB_int_012440.392[What'd you talk about?]2441.202
2457DCB_se1_ag1_m_012442.365it was my life like what I've been through.2443.953
2459 2445.778And basically2446.614 
2461 2448.099how I got to where I am now.2449.824 
2462DCB_int_012450.924So can you give me a little bit? Can you-2452.7
2464 2452.893can you tell [me- cause it] was what, two, three minutes long?2455.298 
2465DCB_se1_ag1_m_012453.441[Uh-]2453.917
2466 2455.542Yeah.2456.002
2467DCB_int_012455.954So2456.248
2468 2456.498if I was sitting in the audience can you give me the speech or2459.724
2470 2459.828what you remember, it don't have to [be exact word for word.]2462.12 
2471DCB_se1_ag1_m_012460.872[Alright well],2462.052
2472 2463.173it's basically2464.177
2474 2464.249I grew up from a2465.742 
2476 2466.322single parent mother with two brothers2468.467 
2478 2468.579trying to feed.2469.559 
2480 2470.212Uh, my mom went2471.496 
2482 2471.748sometime days without eating just for us to eat.2474.149 
2484 2475.021Uh,2475.361 
2486 2475.826I been in a- situations,2477.658 
2488 2478.363I2478.539 
2490 2478.727carried guns before,2479.879 
2492 2480.023I tried to sell weed just to provide for my little brothers.2482.849 
2494 2483.781And that's not2484.59 
2496 2485.001what I wanted to be.2485.876 
2498 2487.03And it just show you2487.776 
2500 2488.247like2488.579 
2502 2489.531the program that I was- I'm in2491.198 
2504 2491.556or I'll like thank the2492.9 
2506 2493.433Civic2493.877 
2508 2494.401Leaders Program2495.345 
2510 2496.138for2496.566 
2512 2497.022giving me the opportunity2498.013 
2514 2498.803to2499.195 
2516 2499.579be somebody.2500.359 
2518 2501.832Because2502.56 
2520 2502.984like2503.273 
2522 2503.557without2504.097 
2524 2504.249being-2504.889 
2526 2505.369without me being right here I would /be and be/2507.031 
2528 2507.526out my friends any time of night2509.407 
2530 2510.127or playing basketball2511.464 
2532 2511.54all day. It's not2512.684 
2534 2513.636like2513.913 
2536 2514.269one day I'm'a do this or2515.657 
2538 2515.877it's not a set plan it's,2517.154 
2540 2517.894oh /RD-NAME-2/ let's go this way, if I don't got nothing to do I'm'a go.2520.339 
2542 2521.067Like that's why I like to be down here because I'm not-2523.108 
2544 2523.756I'm never2524.387 
2546 2524.617sitting around.2525.245 
2548 2526.497So2526.874 
2550 2527.05yeah.2527.416 
2552 2527.826It's a lot of-2528.426 
2554 2528.939it's a lot of commotion around here.2530.379 
2556 2530.619Like2530.968 
2558 2531.786yeah.2532.096 
2559DCB_int_012532.74Besides basketball cause I know that's a big [thing, what else] do you do for fun?2536.088
2560DCB_se1_ag1_m_012534.829[Mm-hm.]2535.275
2561 2536.926Uh, I play chess.2537.802
2563 2537.986I like to play chess.2538.762 
2564DCB_int_012539.331Mm, how long you- have you played chess for a long time?2541.576
2565DCB_se1_ag1_m_012541.843Yeah I played chess since I was elementary school like I have awards for it.2544.721
2567 2546.093Uh-2546.637 
2568DCB_int_012547.682How'd you learn to play chess?2548.791
2569DCB_se1_ag1_m_012549.915A old mentor2550.783
2570DCB_int_012552.728[He just was want-] he- w-2553.944
2571DCB_se1_ag1_m_012552.728[taught me how.]2553.335
2572DCB_int_012554.076took the chess board out saying, we gonna play chess?2556.009
2573DCB_se1_ag1_m_012556.433No like we was playing in his class,2558.67
2575 2559.254he was like, that's not how you play.2560.578 
2577 2561.739He was teaching us- the whole class like, this is a pawn2564.721 
2579 2565.229this is a king, queen, knight,2567.01 
2581 2567.574rook,2567.866 
2583 2568.694and just showing like, he used it as-2570.305 
2585 2571.731of power.2572.408 
2587 2573.14It was like, us black people are pawns.2574.849 
2589 2576.253And it's like2576.721 
2591 2576.905every step we take2578.026 
2593 2578.57you have to worry about something2579.639 
2595 2579.73getting taken away.2580.607 
2597 2582.171And he used the rook as-2583.352 
2599 2583.688the rook2584.06 
2601 2584.752either you can move forward in life2586.078 
2603 2586.177or you can move back.2586.945 
2605 2588.714It was like and the-2589.234 
2607 2589.326the king and queen,2590.325 
2609 2590.723it's like a queen2591.519 
2611 2591.855is basically2592.72 
2613 2594.754your own.2595.319 
2615 2595.565You can move anywhere you want to.2596.929 
2617 2598.122It was like,2598.54 
2619 2598.978a lot of people trying to-2599.995 
2621 2600.647a lot of people think that they're kings and queens but they're really pawns.2603.6 
2623 2605.268And that's it that what they use it as.2606.681 
2625 2606.781And he showed me he's like,2607.754 
2627 2608.426oh,2608.711 
2629 2608.978like that's what I need to reach.2610.206 
2631 2611.403I need to reach the highest level before I can move any type of way.2613.963 
2632DCB_int_012618.362That's really interesting, I don't think I've heard it quite like that before.2621.951
2634 2622.543Um,2623.295 
2636 2624.324what else do you do?2625.009 
2637DCB_se1_ag1_m_012626.365Uh,2626.941
2639 2628.537That's [basically it.]2629.474 
2640DCB_int_012629.078[That's pretty much it?]2629.93
2641DCB_se1_ag1_m_012629.574[Yeah.]2630.082
2642DCB_int_012630.606Um,2631.191
2644 2631.379do you think there's something2632.624 
2646 2634.272like,2634.832 
2648 2635.244that I haven't asked you that you were like, oh I should tell her about that?2638.085 
2649DCB_se1_ag1_m_012639.506Oh another hobby I like to swim.2640.89
2650DCB_int_012641.759Mm.2642.103
2651DCB_se1_ag1_m_012642.387Yeah.2642.803
2652DCB_int_012643.96How'd you learn to swim?2644.773
2653DCB_se1_ag1_m_012645.544My grandmother.2646.387
2655 2647.337Uh, one day we went to the pool2648.982 
2657 2650.058on South Carolina2650.969 
2659 2652.231and she just threw me in.2653.276 
2661 2653.72And that was like2654.381 
2663 2655.32swim.2655.729 
2665 2655.856And I had to learn [like that.]2656.977 
2666DCB_int_012656.557[Oh okay.]2657.002
2667 2657.165How old were you?2657.821
2668DCB_se1_ag1_m_012658.309I was probably like2658.801
2670 2659.594four.2660.056 
2671DCB_int_012662.055[Oh okay.]2662.759
2672DCB_se1_ag1_m_012662.067[And that's how I learned how to swim.]2663.007
2673DCB_int_012663.683Wow.2663.991
2675 2664.084She just said, go in [there and]2665.652 
2676DCB_se1_ag1_m_012665.36[Yeah.]2665.747
2677DCB_int_012665.84do it.2666.146
2679 2667.173And you've been swimming ever since?2668.357 
2680DCB_se1_ag1_m_012668.521Mm,2668.82
2682 2669.326I think she threw me in there to show like,2670.87 
2684 2671.47at the end of the day it's just you.2672.759 
2686 2673.055Like,2673.375 
2688 2673.447nobody else can help you but you- but yourself.2675.407 
2690 2676.168And that's how I interpreted it like,2677.577 
2692 2677.933oh maybe I got-2678.906 
2694 2679.534Me screaming is not doing /nothing/ maybe I gotta slow down and think2682.287 
2696 2683.063what I gotta do.2683.686 
2697DCB_int_012684.011Hm.2684.638
2699 2686.66Is your grandmother still alive?2687.762 
2700DCB_se1_ag1_m_012688.017Oh nah, she passed.2689.28
2702 2690.026From being in the streets.2691.302 
2704 2692.775Yeah.2693.132 
2705DCB_int_012693.479She passed, what'd you say?2694.459
2706DCB_se1_ag1_m_012694.651She passed from the streets like,2696.343
2708 2697.457yeah.2697.794 
2709DCB_int_012698.025When?2698.441
2710DCB_se1_ag1_m_012699.185Uh,2699.698
2712 2700.478say like,2700.935 
2714 2701.362two years ago.2702.058 
2716 2702.202Three years ago.2702.795 
2717DCB_int_012703.967Hm.2704.421
2719 2705.18[I'm sorry to hear that.]2705.968 
2720DCB_se1_ag1_m_012705.34[I got a tattoo] to remember I was-2707.084
2721 2707.857I can't put rest in peace cause she's not gone.2709.826
2723 2710.102So.2710.498 
2725 2712.607Yeah.2712.94 
2726DCB_int_012713.743Gotcha.2714.231
2728 2715.7Um,2716.227 
2730 2717.08and is there any other thing you wanna-2718.66 
2732 2719.277that you can think about?2720.087 
2733DCB_se1_ag1_m_012720.858Mm.2721.534
2735 2724.027I'd like to leave one message for2726.056 
2737 2726.204people my age.2727.072 
2738DCB_int_012727.212Mkay.2727.617
2739DCB_se1_ag1_m_012728.101Find something that you would like.2730.434
2741 2730.87Find something that's different2732.006 
2743 2732.126from everybody else.2733.011 
2745 2734.179Because a trend's easy to set2736.052 
2747 2737.776but2738.126 
2749 2739.237your life is not a easy step.2741.174 
2750DCB_int_012742.662Mm.2743.426