Line	Speaker	St Time	Content	En Time
1	DCB_int_01	0.4169	And birthday?	1.4847
2	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2.3147	February third,	3.5037
4		3.6809	nineteen sixty	4.8009
5	DCB_int_01	7.8624	And where you born?	9.1074
6	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	9.7975	Washington DC.	10.7149
7	DCB_int_01	12.0672	What neighborhood did you grow up in?	13.3961
8	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	14.4872	Benning Heights.	15.2146
9	DCB_int_01	18.0672	And how long have you lived in DC- or how long did you live in DC?	20.6737
10	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	21.1913	For twenty years.	22.2073
11	DCB_int_01	23.2791	And where are the other places that you've lived?	25.2189
12	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	25.9836	Sh.	26.3520
14		27.2613	Uh, I currently reside in Clinton, Maryland.	29.5980
16		30.6221	I've lived in Gaithersburg,	32.1701
18		32.3100	Maryland.	32.8929
20		35.2045	I've lived in Forestville, Maryland.	37.5779
21	DCB_int_01	40.6450	So when you left DC, you didn't go back into DC, [as far as] living?	43.8624
22	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	43.1117	[No, I did not.]	43.5703
23		44.1002	No.	44.3567
24	DCB_int_01	45.2846	And where did you go to school?	46.8500
25	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	47.6382	I graduated from /RD-SCHOOL-2/ High School,	49.7318
27		52.8735	and then I graduated from /RD-SCHOOL-2/ University.	55.4707
29		59.6895	/RD-SCHOOL-2/ campus.	60.5661
30	DCB_int_01	61.9090	And what is your current occupation?	63.7136
31	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	64.2545	I am a	65.1672
33		65.4050	contract administrator.	66.5941
34	DCB_int_01	72.3842	And where were your parents born?	74.4126
35	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	75.1913	Uh, my mother was born Claremore,	77.9226
37		79.1816	Oklahoma,	79.8904
39		80.7017	and my father was born in	82.0027
41		82.3430	Bartlesville, Oklahoma.	83.6055
42	DCB_int_01	88.2067	And what were your parents' occupations?	90.1698
43	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	91.2329	My mother was a ma- uh, records management specialist	94.5342
45		94.9248	for the federal government,	95.8853
47		96.8039	GS thirteen.	97.6619
49		98.5898	And my father was an accountant	100.9947
51		101.6522	for the Department of /Navy/.	103.0231
53		104.7157	Believe he was GS	105.7788
55		106.1845	eight	106.3943
57		106.6123	or nine.	107.0926
59		109.0977	And he retired.	109.7598
60	DCB_int_01	117.5317	Now I just want you to tell me a little bit about	119.9506
61	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	120.4495	[Sh.]	121.1909
62	DCB_int_01	120.4635	[um],	121.0883
63		121.7178	your childhood home, what you can remember.	124.0027
65		124.6217	Um,	125.0510
67		125.7035	your neighborhood.	126.8039
68	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	140.3473	I am the	141.3359
70		142.1507	youngest of two.	143.0040
72		143.1766	I have one sibling, a sister.	144.5521
74		146.1235	Um,	146.6644
76		147.1493	growing up,	148.1332
78		149.9599	in a two parent	151.0417
80		151.2562	home- household,	152.3007
82		153.7136	um, my perspective was that I felt	155.1532
84		155.4470	we had the best of everything.	156.6873
85	DCB_int_01	157.0137	Hm.	157.2049
86	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	158.0769	Um,	158.3753
88		159.7182	my father made it	160.7989
90		161.8900	um,	162.3003
92		162.9018	his business to make sure	164.1981
94		164.9908	that we were very well taken care of.	166.7662
96		167.6009	Um,	168.0951
98		168.4029	looking back,	169.1070
100		169.3215	we had all the necessities.	170.9861
102		173.0320	<ts>	173.1532
104		173.6522	My mom was the homemaker. She worked, but she was	176.7017
106		177.1260	still the primary homemaker, and my father was	179.2978
108		180.0672	the dominant	180.6733
110		180.9671	with the	181.6432
112		182.7623	um-	183.3312
114		184.6776	He made sure that	185.4796
116		185.9506	the house ran smoothly.	187.1303
118		188.1422	Growing up in the neighborhood that we grew up in,	190.2486
120		190.7662	I was	191.2745
122		191.6895	the only	192.5847
124		192.9951	um,	193.4474
126		194.3800	f-	194.6271
128		194.8369	female	195.3032
130		195.6809	of my age,	196.3897
132		197.2278	so I didn't have a lot of	198.2770
134		198.9858	uh, female friends or anything like that.	200.8649
135	DCB_int_01	201.0001	How big of the gap was your s- You and your sister?	203.2232
136	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	203.4890	There are twelve years between us.	204.7946
137	DCB_int_01	204.8039	Okay.	205.0837
138	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	205.8204	There are twelve years.	206.6644
140		207.0328	So I grew up with the	208.4864
142		209.2232	as a tomboy growing up. So I grew up with the boys in the neighborhood and	212.0163
144		212.3893	playing football and	213.3125
146		214.2032	baseball and kickball and	215.7175
148		215.9040	ride my ten speed bicycle where	217.7272
150		218.0302	other girls were still in the house, and they were tryna learn how to cook and	220.8315
152		222.5195	you know, uh-	223.3028
154		223.5640	playing with dolls.	224.2634
156		224.5152	I did play with dolls, but I was truly a tomboy.	226.8128
158		230.3660	Let's see. What else can I say?	231.9933
160		232.0586	Um-	232.6741
162		233.0040	<ts>	233.1579
163	DCB_int_01	234.2770	Did you live in a townhouse? Was it an apartment?	236.8556
165		237.4478	Was it a single family [home?]	239.4517
166	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	238.6963	[/T./]	239.0740
167		240.1324	It was a	241.2236
169		241.3262	um-	241.8391
171		242.3800	I think they c- Well,	243.4711
173		243.6623	today's	244.2078
175		244.8455	terminology would be a	246.0532
177		246.5195	townhouse.	247.2329
178	DCB_int_01	247.3635	[Mm-hm.]	247.7645
179	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	247.5500	[But-]	247.7645
180		248.1795	Cause you have one person besides a single,	249.9887
182		250.2265	a semi detached home is what it- [really] what it was considered.	252.8272
183	DCB_int_01	251.6242	[Okay.]	251.9413
184	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	253.4614	Uh the neighborhood was very	255.2473
186		255.4338	um,	255.8768
188		258.1604	old school structured,	259.6665
190		259.8111	where everybody looked out for everyone.	261.6529
192		262.4771	Uh, if- if you got in trouble down the street,	265.1396
194		265.2609	by the time you got home, your parents knew	267.1742
196		267.5457	exactly what you did.	268.6648
198		269.3118	You were only allowed to go	270.7806
200		271.9137	from one corner to the other.	273.4245
201	DCB_int_01	273.5317	Mm-hm.	273.8441
202	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	273.8430	You couldn't just roam the neighborhood.	275.2185
203		275.7314	That just was not allowed.	276.8459
205		277.9463	<ts>	278.0722
206	DCB_int_01	279.3312	Did you- Okay. So did you	281.7827
208		281.9926	when- and playing in the neighborhood and things like that,	284.3706
210		285.5131	was- Do you remember like	286.7989
212		287.0040	the people in the neighborhood? Was it a mixed neighborhood? Was it a all black neighborhood?	290.9908
213	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	290.9628	It was a all black neighborhood.	292.1938
214		293.3071	Um,	293.9459
216		295.5919	<ts>	295.7365
218		296.5525	and	297.4011
220		297.7089	the family structures were pretty much the same.	299.5496
221	DCB_int_01	300.3143	So it was mostly two [parent?]	301.5593
222	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	301.1536	[It was mai-] mostly two parent.	302.5898
223		303.3638	Um,	303.7742
225		305.3677	I don't recall any	306.6360
227		307.4614	divorcees at all.	308.9861
228	DCB_int_01	309.6389	[Mm-hm.]	310.0400
229	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	309.7928	[In the] community. Not- not growing up.	311.4352
230		311.5403	Not at all. I didn't even really fully understand what that was.	313.9556
231	DCB_int_01	314.2494	Hm.	314.5618
232	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	314.7064	Cause we didn't- You did- You just didn't-	316.0384
234		316.2311	You didn't have that.	317.0764
236		317.9786	Um, it's j-	318.6221
238		318.7666	From the perspective of when I grew up, as- especially in elementary school,	321.8441
240		322.4631	my day care provider as their called now, but my baby sitter	325.2655
242		325.5313	lived maybe seven doors down the street on the same block.	328.3011
243	DCB_int_01	328.5611	Mm-hm.	328.8502
244	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	328.9854	Um,	329.5542
246		330.7386	elementary school that I attended,	332.0302
248		332.3613	we walked to school, didn't do any bussing anything like that.	334.8128
249	DCB_int_01	334.9154	Which elementary school?	335.8014
250	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	335.9739	/RD-NAME-2/ Elementary School on /RD-ADDRESS-5/, Southeast.	338.5199
252		339.4058	So you had a buddy kind of thing where	341.6895
254		342.0112	you had your little friends that you would walk to school with, and you'd wait	344.9395
256		345.3778	and walk home together.	346.6357
258		346.7755	Um, I was a crossing guard,	348.0718
260		348.6780	so I got a chance to see all the little kids going home.	351.0393
262		351.3965	<laugh>	351.5923
264		352.6357	Um,	353.1766
266		354.2863	very quiet neighborhood,	355.5173
268		355.7831	very family structured, very or-	357.9187
270		358.0155	family oriented.	359.0273
272		359.7501	Um,	360.3050
274		360.6221	everyone pretty much went in the house when the lights came on.	363.1913
276		364.0668	Or you went in for dinner,	365.6755
278		366.4449	cause your-	366.6827
280		366.8086	your- your parent would come out and stand at the door and yell your name all up and down the street.	370.5715
281	DCB_int_01	371.2558	<laugh>	371.4423
282	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	371.4703	And you came in for dinner, everyone sat down,	373.6479
284		373.8857	and that-	374.1981
286		374.3007	that's pretty much how-	375.1587
288		375.6949	You sat down as a family,	376.7382
290		377.9926	and then if you were l- if it wasn't dark, you got to come back outside and when the street lights came on,	382.3792
292		383.0227	you came in the house.	384.1511
293	DCB_int_01	385.1256	So let me ask you this. When-	387.1400
295		387.8721	Because you had such a big age group	389.6708
297		389.8667	with your sister,	390.8599
299		391.2096	did you guys have-	392.3380
301		393.1074	Did y'all play together much? Did y'all	394.6077
303		394.7476	interact? I mean I know y'all interacted, but did y'all	396.9205
305		397.2609	do a lot together?	398.2261
306	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	398.5338	No.	398.7577
308		399.1493	<laugh>	399.7089
310		400.5424	Um,	400.9621
312		401.1206	we joke about it now, but	402.8692
314		404.7064	she loved me, yes.	405.7742
316		406.5191	I was in the way up until	408.0765
318		409.8624	probably when I became about fifteen or sixteen and then she allowed me to	413.6475
320		413.9692	come into my own. Because anything other than that,	416.0163
322		416.5711	I was-	417.0934
324		417.1773	If she was trying to date or if she was trying to go out	420.1260
326		420.5894	I was in the way cause she had to take me with her.	422.6877
328		423.6996	Um,	424.2498
330		425.3118	she was responsible for making sure that	427.0558
332		427.4147	I got dressed for school and	429.0183
334		429.1773	that I	429.6357
336		429.9700	had breakfast. And she served the same thing every day	432.4215
338		433.1676	of the week.	433.6712
340		433.9929	Yeah.	434.2214
342		434.4919	<ts>	434.6597
344		434.7856	Certain foods I don't eat now because of her.	436.4445
345	DCB_int_01	437.0180	[<laugh>]	438.4682
346	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	437.1812	[But um-]	438.4542
347	DCB_int_01	440.1748	<laugh.>	440.4732
349		441.0095	And what are those [foods?]	442.3524
350	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	442.0260	[<laugh>]	442.4083
351		442.7149	S-	442.9248
353		443.3118	/her uh/ scrapple,	444.4822
355		444.7106	I can't-	445.2520
357		445.4987	I can't just-	446.0396
359		446.5385	I can't [stand to look at it] at this point.	448.7301
360	DCB_int_01	447.0281	[<laugh>]	447.8768
361	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	449.7687	Um, I did learn to eat	451.1769
363		451.4800	grits,	452.1049
365		452.3520	f- but she fixed	453.4813
367		453.9187	scrapple, eggs	455.1113
369		455.2418	and grits	455.8387
371		456.8412	every day.	457.3308
372	DCB_int_01	458.0769	<laugh>	458.3893
373	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	458.8602	It's all she knew how to cook.	460.0306
375		460.7522	So that's what I ate every day.	462.1185
376	DCB_int_01	462.8972	[<laugh>]	467.6433
377	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	464.6411	But we became close um,	466.2778
379		466.4456	as I got older.]	467.7314
380	DCB_int_01	468.2770	<laugh>	468.4822
381	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	468.8086	Um,	469.2236
383		471.1773	cause I will say	471.8814
385		472.0714	this. Uh,	472.8455
387		473.0553	I was her-	473.4796
389		473.7781	You know being her little sister,	475.2469
391		476.2634	and I've always grown up being	477.6063
393		477.9280	/RD-NAME-3/'s little sister,	479.4284
395		480.5521	um, that's a label	481.8670
397		482.0069	or a title while-	483.0747
399		483.5970	I think by the time I was	484.8222
401		485.3584	twenty five,	486.1931
403		486.3842	close to thirty,	487.3028
405		487.6386	I outgrew	488.2867
407		488.5199	finally.	489.0001
409		489.8534	And then I became my own person.	491.6894
411		491.9739	/Very-/	492.2723
413		492.5614	And there's still- Some people said,	493.7225
415		493.9417	Oh that's /RD-NAME-3/'s little sister.	495.3359
417		495.9234	It's like, okay, I'm fifty something years old now. I'm not /RD-NAME-3/'s little anything cause I am bigger than she is!	500.4919
419		501.0794	Yeah.	501.3638
421		502.3291	But	502.6263
423		502.7243	we did have a- We had a very good relationship	504.7013
425		504.7946	because uh, we were	505.7365
427		507.1260	dancers.	507.6949
429		508.0726	So my parents	509.0087
431		509.4423	uh, sent us to dancer school,	510.8459
433		512.3333	and I was a ballet dancer.	513.7648
435		514.1694	And	514.5144
437		514.6776	once I started studying	516.4775
439		516.9764	a little more and going to	517.9230
441		518.1422	different	518.5338
443		518.6644	genres and doing uh, modern [dance and things like that],	521.0646
445		521.4610	[she was also dancing at the time, so]	523.7318
447		524.4825	that started our bond I think.	526.1752
448	DCB_int_01	526.6030	Hm-hm.	527.1066
449	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	527.4796	And it just really kind of developed	528.9578
451		529.0650	from that.	529.6572
453		530.1981	At this point right now, we live approximately	532.6780
455		534.1651	door to door seven minutes from each other,	536.0349
457		536.9908	and we have	537.5270
459		537.6763	lived like that for the last twenty five years.	539.5356
460	DCB_int_01	540.5148	In fact, we're in her living room	541.8577
461	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	542.2587	Right [now.]	542.8136
462	DCB_int_01	542.5012	[now.]	542.7996
463	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	542.9955	[Mm-hm.]	543.3825
464	DCB_int_01	543.0281	[Exactly.]	543.6110
465	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	543.7478	[Hm-hm.]	544.5757
466	DCB_int_01	543.9793	[Um,]	544.6042
467		545.2092	and so let me ask you this. Thinking about your	547.4334
469		547.5546	larger family, so your mom, your dad, your sisters-	550.4316
471		556.0994	And your grandparents um-	558.1464
473		558.4682	<laugh> I'm sorry (clap), that was so funny.	559.9603
475		560.6224	Whoo. <clap> I'm sorry.	561.7229
477		562.3372	So it was your- your family,	563.7314
479		563.9226	do y'all still have like family traditions? Like,	565.7505
481		566.3520	I know you and your sister go	567.5000
483		567.6844	and travel each year together, but do y'all have family traditions where	570.9904
485		571.5313	your whole family gets together? What are those like?	574.0866
486	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	575.4750	Um, we have a very small family,	577.4381
488		578.0980	very, very small family.	579.1727
490		579.7275	Um, just to give you a little background, my parents got married in nineteen forty two,	583.0930
492		583.6665	and my dad was in the military, and they moved	585.8208
494		585.9747	here	586.2778
496		586.3885	to Washington, DC area.	587.6992
498		588.6407	And	589.0883
500		589.3635	therefore he-	589.9743
502		590.1235	they- He moved us away from the rest of the family.	592.3617
504		592.6636	So we don't have cousins, aunts and uncles and things like that	595.4381
506		596.4219	in the area.	597.0281
508		597.4524	We	597.7462
510		598.0213	never have up until maybe-	599.4890
512		601.1769	We found out about four years ago we have a cousin,	603.6016
514		604.3466	a blood cousin here.	605.3304
516		605.6195	But other than that, we've never had a large family so	607.7475
518		607.9743	it was always just Mom and Dad,	609.3219
520		610.1659	/RD-NAME-3/ and- and- and /RD-NAME-2/	611.5449
522		612.3190	and- until we	613.2049
524		613.9323	developed our own	614.7250
526		615.3498	families.	615.9700
528		616.5424	Um,	616.8921
530		617.4703	right now traditionally, we do	619.4101
532		619.5640	Christmas,	620.1188
534		620.7204	Thanksgiving,	621.6203
536		622.4352	the first summer	623.3864
538		623.4983	cookout,	624.1324
540		624.9018	the end of the summer	625.7924
542		625.9090	cookout,	626.4126
544		626.8742	and we see each other,	628.1286
546		628.7476	prob-	629.0786
548		629.2325	Well because my mom now,	630.7013
550		631.2096	um, she's a surviving	632.4406
552		632.5851	um, parent,	633.2613
554		633.7835	and we all	634.3197
556		634.5051	pitch in to /telp/ take care of her	635.9180
558		636.4728	so we see each other a lot more now.	638.0442
560		638.3893	We see each other probably	639.5737
562		640.4911	on a weekly basis.	641.5776
563	DCB_int_01	641.7967	Mm-hm.	642.1558
564	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	642.1884	As far as the family all getting together,	644.3567
566		644.6597	we try to make it a point to	646.6275
568		647.3817	see each other at least	648.6127
570		649.2888	once a month?	650.0909
571	DCB_int_01	650.3380	Mm.	650.6644
572	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	650.9722	Um, that works-	651.8488
574		652.1554	depending on /what/ the schedules	653.6662
576		653.8713	you know, provide- you know, allow us to do that. We /work/.	656.1095
577	DCB_int_01	656.7950	Now do you have kids?	657.9001
578	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	658.1659	I have one child. And I have a thirty	659.9832
580		660.9018	four year old daughter,	662.2261
581	DCB_int_01	662.5478	Mm-hm.	662.9628
582	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	663.5783	um,	664.0446
584		664.3699	who I	665.0087
586		665.5309	put through college.	666.4822
588		667.5966	And	668.4266
590		668.6970	um, she went to grad school.	670.1612
592		670.6170	She came back home.	671.4657
594		671.7128	<laugh>	671.9273
596		672.6827	And she's back home with me now.	673.9137
598		674.6831	And she has uh-	676.7336
600		678.0019	She was	678.4915
602		679.0930	afforded the opportunity	680.3660
604		680.6224	to adopt,	681.2473
605	DCB_int_01	681.6343	Mm-hm.	682.0679
606	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	682.1752	and so she- we're in the process of now- She's adopting a baby boy.	685.5966
608		686.2261	Well he's	686.7670
610		687.0887	sixteen months old right now,	688.3570
612		688.8921	but we've had him since he was three days old.	690.5801
613	DCB_int_01	692.0396	[And you]	692.3929
614	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	692.1328	[So-]	692.6084
615	DCB_int_01	692.9209	love him?	693.4618
616	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	693.8243	Uh,	694.1461
617	DCB_int_01	693.9036	[/Like a son?/]	695.0180
618	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	694.5750	my heart.	694.9510
619		695.4423	Mm,	695.6289
621		696.0485	absolute heart.	696.8459
623		697.0930	It was a blessing. It was a God's blessing. Truly, it was.	699.5737
625		700.0341	T- Because she [doesn't have] any- She doesn't have any biological children.	702.7666
626	DCB_int_01	701.5979	[<loud noise>]	701.8412
627	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	703.2236	She's not in a relationship.	704.5432
629		704.8509	So she didn't feel that-	706.7687
631		707.4004	that should keep her from being a mom cause she's always wanted to be a mom.	710.1935
633		711.2006	[So]	711.7182
634	DCB_int_01	711.4338	[Wow.]	711.7695
635	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	711.9082	instead of just waiting for nature to take its course,	714.7293
637		715.1723	she took matters in-	716.0349
639		716.4219	Or like I said, the opportunity came up /with/ a friend of hers,	718.7907
641		719.1812	um, has a relative that	720.2863
643		720.5568	had a child that they could not provide for.	722.4825
644	DCB_int_01	723.0141	[Mm-hm.]	723.3825
645	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	723.0328	[So]	723.4897
646		723.8395	um,	724.0633
648		724.4118	we're in the,	724.7429
650		725.1346	like I said the-	725.6568
652		725.8573	the last phase of the adoption process.	727.9230
653	DCB_int_01	727.9277	Oh, well good luck,	728.8836
654	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	728.9069	<ts>	729.0048
655	DCB_int_01	729.1120	[and congratulations for getting this] far.	730.9154
656	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	729.1493	[Yes, tha- thank you.]	730.6228
657		731.3258	Oh, [yes.]	731.8527
658	DCB_int_01	731.4610	[So]	732.1511
659		732.5241	let me ask you this. Kind of moving, thinking about-	735.0468
661		735.1960	you went to	736.3745
663		736.5098	/RD-SCHOOL-2/ Elementary,	737.4563
664	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	737.5776	Mm-hm.	737.9366
665	DCB_int_01	738.3096	did you like school?	739.3401
667		739.4894	Was it fun?	740.6271
669		741.4384	Did you have a favorite subject or favorite teacher?	743.3164
670	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	744.4169	Elementary school is somewhat of a blur at this point. I did-	747.3032
672		747.6716	I can remember	748.4538
674		748.5657	one particular teacher,	749.6102
676		749.8014	uh, Miss /RD-NAME-1/, that was my fifth grade teacher,	751.8484
678		752.3473	I think she made the m-	753.4011
680		753.6005	most impact on my life.	755.4480
682		756.2723	Um, she was a no nonsense	758.3380
684		760.0539	proper,	760.7068
686		761.1719	as you will,	761.7874
688		762.1791	type of person.	762.8785
690		763.3868	She didn't take any	764.1841
692		764.7250	mess from any child,	765.8022
694		767.6708	but she was fair.	768.5721
695	DCB_int_01	768.9638	Mm.	769.3270
696	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	769.5267	And she always tried to get you to aspire to be better.	771.9560
697	DCB_int_01	772.5077	Mm-hm.	772.8351
698	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	773.2325	Um,	773.6568
700		775.1769	and one of the r- things I really remember about that	777.3312
702		777.5131	being in fifth grade was	778.6370
704		779.1393	there was a-	779.4843
706		779.6895	a young	780.1884
708		780.5335	gentleman	780.9485
710		781.1256	or	781.3681
712		781.5406	kid	781.8857
714		782.1422	came into fifth grade,	783.3312
716		783.4384	and he moved /fere/ from	784.9527
718		785.6102	uh, Jamaica.	786.2210
720		787.4381	He had never seen it snow before,	788.8247
722		789.2193	and for whatever reason, it sticks in my mind.	790.9673
724		791.4750	And we all had to go stand out in the snow for	793.8596
726		793.9650	a whole class period because	795.4991
728		795.8348	he had never seen a snowfall in the sky.	797.4470
730		798.0485	So the rest of us are sitting there freezing, and he's just walking around amazed that he saw snow.	801.5410
732		801.8534	But that was the kind of thing that she was trying to help understand.	804.9251
734		805.2935	If he didn't	806.0536
736		806.3846	have any	806.9955
738		807.5830	understanding of what snow really was,	809.5682
739	DCB_int_01	809.6020	Mm-hm.	810.0463
740	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	810.0812	and to- to help him experience that	812.9302
742		813.5410	she just made us kind of	814.5471
744		814.6963	all	815.1299
746		815.6522	realize that there are different cultures. There are different	818.1422
748		818.7110	um, things that kids go through	820.3757
750		820.8362	and that we needed to embrace that	822.9018
752		823.7971	with him	824.1701
754		824.4546	and share that with him.	825.2659
756		825.6389	And I'll always remember that.	826.7696
758		826.9760	Not quite sure why, but	828.0672
760		828.1884	I've always remembered that.	829.0790
761	DCB_int_01	829.8111	Where did you go after that? After you left /RD-SCHOOL-2/?	831.7882
762	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	832.0073	I went to /RD-SCHOOL-4/	833.2605
764		833.4330	Junior [High School]	834.2583
765	DCB_int_01	833.8107	[Mm-hm.]	834.1558
766	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	834.4169	on Forty Ninth Street.	835.3821
768		836.1655	Um,	836.5245
770		837.5037	what's there now is the new /RD-SCHOOL-4/. They tore the building down and re-	840.4822
772		840.6547	rebuilt it.	841.2469
774		841.7971	Um,	842.1981
776		842.5898	I was	842.9722
778		843.0841	um, there when	844.0654
780		844.2451	the principal name was uh, /RD-NAME-2/.	845.9459
782		847.1956	And I think	848.0955
784		848.9815	that was the very beginning	850.8875
786		851.0413	of	851.4890
788		852.2210	a change for me because	853.4474
790		853.7038	[he structured the school-]	854.8789
792		856.7895	In his mind it was a university.	858.4169
793	DCB_int_01	859.1583	[Mm, mm-hm.]	859.9476
794	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	859.5826	[So he-]	860.0349
795		860.2634	he	860.5898
797		861.4431	gave you the opportunity one,	862.9900
799		863.7361	that you had an opinion,	864.7340
800	DCB_int_01	865.2749	Mm.	865.5826
801	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	866.0815	didn't mean that you always gonna get your way,	868.0213
803		868.8968	but that he	869.6522
805		870.2117	pushed us	870.8832
807		871.1536	to think	871.7272
809		871.9277	beyond.	872.6271
811		872.8602	Don't just-	873.5037
813		873.8581	just because- No. You need to understand why- why you have these feelings.	877.4008
815		878.0116	And I will always remember	879.2100
817		879.3732	Mister /RD-NAME-2/ for that.	880.3151
819		880.4643	Um,	880.8500
821		881.7594	but it was also during a time where	883.4101
823		883.6479	you couldn't leave campus. You couldn't come out and go to lunch, anything like that.	886.8500
825		887.1626	You ate	887.5542
827		887.6708	in the	887.9161
829		888.0065	cafeteria or you brought your own lunch.	890.0769
831		890.3753	You weren't allowed	891.1027
833		891.1913	off of the campus at any time.	893.0786
835		893.4703	You know, truancy was really really big then	895.4660
837		895.8111	so	896.4872
839		897.1493	they	897.4291
841		897.6063	kind of	897.9887
843		898.6590	had	898.9527
845		899.1066	real good control	899.9832
847		900.6547	over what you did,	901.2609
849		901.6292	I enjoyed going in- um, junior high school. I was a cheerleader.	904.7793
851		905.5449	Um,	905.9040
853		906.1791	I actually made captain	907.4241
855		907.7132	uh, think it was my eighth grade year.	909.9001
857		910.3384	Because it- back that	911.1439
859		911.3398	time,	911.6428
861		911.9692	you know, you had seventh, eighth, and ninth grade.	913.5640
862	DCB_int_01	914.1981	Oh, [okay.]	914.6597
863	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	914.3800	[So I] was a captain seventh grade- eighth grade. Excuse me.	916.8327
864		917.1579	And then I was a captain ninth grade.	918.6827
866		918.9811	I was also on the dance-	920.1701
868		920.6644	dance team	921.2986
870		921.6016	for the school.	922.1565
871	DCB_int_01	922.1600	Were you still taking private [lessons at this point?]	924.0345
872	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	923.4190	[I was still taking] private lessons, and actually at-	925.3868
873		925.7598	by-	926.2541
875		926.9768	Uh, not until I got into high school did I start dancing professionally.	930.3796
877		930.7340	And professionally meaning, we had a-	932.4359
879		932.5711	a little dance group, and we would perform at different	934.7709
881		935.0273	location- diff- different	936.1260
883		936.4029	events and things like [that.]	937.5826
884	DCB_int_01	937.2795	[Mm-hm.]	937.6759
885	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	938.3706	Um,	938.9069
887		939.8861	junior high school was really good.	941.0833
889		941.5449	It was the first time I got a chance to travel out-	943.3401
891		943.5500	for,	943.7924
893		943.9556	you know, ninth grade you got to go to	945.3219
895		945.7136	um, Florida.	946.3757
897		946.9621	We went to Disney World, and we went to	948.7074
899		949.1956	um, Atlanta,	950.1049
901		950.2028	and the whole Peachtree Street.	951.8721
902	DCB_int_01	952.3978	<laugh>	952.5517
903	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	952.9900	You know, [and]	953.4097
904	DCB_int_01	953.2791	[Mm-hm.]	953.6428
905	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	953.8154	Martin Luther King and that	954.7114
907		954.8505	whole thing, so	955.8018
909		956.1981	that was- that was good because other schools at that time were not traveling.	959.3537
910	DCB_int_01	959.7314	Mm-hm.	960.0439
911	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	960.2304	But	960.5894
913		960.9158	Mister /RD-NAME-2/ made sure that we were able to experience different things,	963.9747
915		964.4538	and-	964.7616
917		964.8502	and we were the- kind of the trail blazers for that for other schools.	967.4800
919		968.1935	And then I left there and went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/ High School, which	970.8500
921		971.9040	um,	972.4962
923		973.4660	/RD-SCHOOL-2/ was-	974.5618
925		977.7454	<sigh>	978.1698
927		979.4660	I enjoyed my time at /RD-SCHOOL-2/.	981.0281
929		981.9374	I truly developed and became into- came into my own.	984.3423
931		985.1536	Um,	985.4894
933		987.0747	by that time,	987.8768
935		988.2813	I was-	988.6543
937		988.9248	I was dancing	989.9366
939		990.1931	on a level-	990.9018
941		991.2842	I had	991.6432
943		991.9417	studied in New York,	993.1587
945		993.4664	[um]	993.8768
946	DCB_int_01	993.7882	[Mm.]	994.1006
947	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	994.2580	<ts>	994.4177
949		994.7476	for just a brief time. I-	995.9599
951		996.1231	The dancer school that I belonged to,	997.3125
953		997.5220	they would take a group of kids to New York to study,	1000.0726
955		1000.6170	and so I was- I was selected and able to do that.	1003.3868
957		1004.0302	And	1004.3893
959		1004.5245	I was able to bring that training back, so when I got into tenth grade,	1007.2232
961		1007.9319	you know they- kids change classes? So like, maybe the third period	1011.3172
963		1011.8161	I	1012.0819
965		1012.6730	took an advance.	1013.7548
967		1014.0439	I was the only	1014.7619
969		1015.1769	ninth grader taking advanced twelfth grade	1017.4245
971		1017.7229	um, dancing.	1018.4503
973		1019.0880	But then,	1019.6988
975		1019.9273	um, like maybe the sixth period,	1021.4800
977		1021.8204	I actually was a student teacher	1023.1820
979		1024.0959	while I was in high school s- And I got credit for that.	1026.0112
981		1026.1418	So	1026.4868
983		1027.0650	um,	1027.3401
985		1027.8018	never had to take gym.	1028.5711
987		1029.0141	That was a good thing.	1029.6623
988	DCB_int_01	1030.1052	<laugh>	1030.4316
989	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	1030.8595	I- [I think I] was a senior before I really realized where the gym was.	1033.5733
990	DCB_int_01	1031.0600	[<laugh>]	1031.3631
991	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	1033.9650	<laugh> [Or the locker room for the gym.]	1035.9176
992	DCB_int_01	1034.4779	[<laugh>]	1036.1286
993	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	1036.5611	Cause you know, the dance room you have your own.	1038.2117
995		1038.9997	Um, but I- I enjoyed it because	1040.7437
997		1040.8929	it gave me an opportunity for a lot of independence.	1043.1113
999		1043.5449	<ts>	1043.6662
1001		1044.1091	I was still studying. I was still dancing	1046.1748
1003		1046.7903	at-	1046.9955
1005		1047.1960	And I started dancing I think [the eleventh grade I think for Parks and Recreation],	1050.7380
1007		1051.2469	and I was dancing with them.	1052.5991
1009		1052.7810	Um,	1053.2659
1011		1054.6217	so I was dancing	1055.8060
1013		1055.9506	two or three times during the day in school,	1057.6945
1015		1057.8344	and then I would dance in the evening	1059.3405
1017		1059.7695	at my little part time job	1061.0413
1019		1061.3677	for /RD-WORK-6/.	1062.3982
1021		1062.9065	And then by the twelfth grade I was dancing for /RD-NAME-3/,	1066.0913
1023		1066.5377	who was	1067.1905
1025		1067.2978	a prominent dance instructor for /RD-WORK-6/.	1070.0256
1027		1070.3567	So I was dancing on Saturdays as well.	1072.0959
1029		1072.2125	But I was actually studying at that point,	1073.9506
1031		1074.6314	and I was studying point.	1075.8087
1033		1076.1795	And I had stayed on point	1077.3778
1035		1077.4618	until-	1077.9700
1037		1078.4072	from maybe age sixteen to maybe age twenty one?	1082.0909
1038	DCB_int_01	1082.4872	Mm-hm.	1082.8649
1039	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	1083.2146	And	1083.8208
1041		1083.9327	I think-	1084.6077
1043		1084.6776	Cause that-	1084.9714
1045		1085.1159	that was around the time that I	1086.1931
1047		1086.7713	had my daughter.	1087.4847
1049		1087.8531	I was married,	1088.4825
1051		1088.7110	and then I had my daughter.	1089.5923
1053		1089.9222	And I gave up um,	1091.1859
1055		1091.7827	dancing-	1092.2537
1057		1092.7480	Studying.	1093.2282
1059		1094.2074	I didn't do that anymore.	1095.2274
1061		1096.5471	It was like, okay, now you're a mommy, you're a wife. You need to	1098.9065
1063		1099.6619	become mommy and wife.	1100.7072
1064	DCB_int_01	1101.0747	So transition from high school to	1103.2931
1066		1103.7967	dancing, and now becoming mommy wife.	1106.4965
1068		1106.8229	Um, when you left home	1108.4456
1070		1108.5704	at that point,	1109.3650
1072		1109.7175	where did you	1110.3516
1074		1110.5101	go?	1110.9904
1075	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	1111.5173	Well,	1111.9323
1077		1112.3800	before um, becoming mommy wife	1114.4212
1079		1114.4958	um,	1114.7616
1081		1114.9294	/transession/-	1115.5682
1083		1115.7687	transitioning out of high school	1117.0417
1085		1117.3262	I went to college. I went to the University- Well, what's now the /RD-SCHOOL-8/.	1121.0740
1086	DCB_int_01	1121.3724	Mm-hm.	1121.6848
1087	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	1122.1138	Um,	1122.5711
1089		1122.8039	I did that for three years,	1124.2401
1091		1125.3872	and I didn't enjoy it	1126.5109
1093		1126.8502	because I was working.	1127.6568
1095		1127.7874	I also had a-	1128.5148
1097		1128.8132	um, a job.	1129.6852
1099		1129.9230	Uh,	1130.3706
1101		1130.8882	I worked for /RD-WORK-2/	1131.7736
1103		1131.9840	/RD-WORK-1/	1132.4223
1105		1132.6030	/RD-WORK-2/	1133.2185
1107		1133.4423	that Marion Barry	1134.2723
1109		1135.0184	ran.	1135.4241
1111		1135.9883	And then I also had an opportunity to do this-	1138.6415
1113		1139.0693	They used to call it Stay in School program,	1140.5754
1115		1141.0137	where you went to school half a day and then-	1142.7064
1117		1143.0374	My senior year you went to school half a day, and then you worked a half a day.	1145.7175
1119		1146.2537	S-	1146.3936
1121		1146.5381	so I had my first taste of government	1148.3287
1123		1149.2566	employment, and I worked at a computer room.	1150.8500
1125		1151.9413	And I was juggling	1153.1023
1127		1153.2609	dancing, schooling, working.	1155.2706
1129		1156.1192	<cough> Excuse me.	1156.9714
1131		1157.3957	Um,	1157.8107
1133		1158.7899	my father gave me an opportunity	1160.5385
1135		1161.2006	or an option,	1161.8255
1137		1162.4352	Either you can stay in school	1164.0112
1139		1164.7433	or you can work full time.	1165.6759
1141		1166.3660	You weren't gonna sit in this house and be lazy,	1168.0773
1143		1168.3011	but you can do one or the other. [So he] gave me that option,	1170.3796
1144	DCB_int_01	1169.3444	[Mm-hm.]	1169.5729
1145	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	1171.0137	and	1171.6386
1147		1172.0955	I chose	1173.4291
1149		1174.4130	um-	1174.9823
1151		1175.4470	I tried to do school and work full time.	1177.6059
1153		1178.1422	That didn't work.	1178.8136
1155		1179.4338	Tha- That was just too much.	1180.3337
1157		1180.6869	So by the time I was twenty, I decided, Okay, I don't want to do this anymore.	1183.6199
1159		1184.3007	<ts>	1184.4359
1161		1184.9069	So	1185.5690
1163		1185.7928	I	1186.3057
1165		1186.8128	um- I got married at twenty.	1188.3096
1166	DCB_int_01	1188.4495	Mm-hm.	1189.1863
1167	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	1189.2935	<ts>	1189.4054
1169		1189.7831	I had my daughter at twenty one,	1191.1271
1171		1192.6869	and life just	1193.5123
1173		1193.7454	took	1194.0485
1175		1194.1837	a turn f- on its own	1195.6013
1177		1196.2261	from that.	1196.7670
1179		1197.4991	Uh, and I stayed married only	1199.0600
1181		1199.5916	maybe three years cause we were both young. He was twenty three. I was twenty.	1202.3986
1183		1202.8509	Clueless.	1203.4202
1185		1204.1006	Um, but I did it,	1205.0087
1186	DCB_int_01	1205.2139	Mm-hm.	1205.5605
1187	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	1205.5449	and got my daughter from it. And it was a blessing	1207.4614
1188		1207.6013	cause I have her.	1208.2914
1190		1209.0514	Um,	1209.6250
1192		1210.4118	but it taught me a valuable lesson that	1212.5335
1194		1214.1515	I was not gonna go back home	1215.4291
1196		1216.1146	with a child.	1216.8500
1198		1217.5263	I was determined I was gonna make it on my own.	1219.3168
1200		1219.8158	Now	1220.1142
1202		1220.2727	along that time I had	1221.5270
1204		1221.7462	all the support in the world from my parents,	1223.4377
1206		1224.3050	um, both	1225.0277
1208		1225.3308	emotionally	1226.2074
1210		1226.4965	and	1227.0328
1212		1227.2752	um	1227.7742
1214		1228.6170	<ts>	1228.6776
1215	DCB_int_01	1229.2372	[/Just want to move this] so-/	1230.3609
1216	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	1229.2418	[financially.]	1229.9178
1217		1230.8599	Mkay.	1231.1536
1218	DCB_int_01	1231.2003	now that you're not holding	1232.1422
1220		1232.8323	Mr. /RD-NAME-2/.	1233.5550
1221	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	1234.3197	Um,	1234.7662
1223		1235.5356	I had um,	1236.5708
1225		1239.7602	really good- very good foundation, very good support.	1241.7175
1227		1242.9671	But	1243.4381
1229		1245.3125	my independence was important to me.	1247.3677
1231		1248.5754	So	1248.7806
1233		1248.9205	I was not gonna go back home	1250.0955
1235		1250.3753	with my baby	1251.0841
1237		1252.3932	because my marriage didn't work, which my father told me not to do in the first place.	1255.4940
1238	DCB_int_01	1255.5950	Hm.	1255.8242
1239	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	1256.1935	Uh, but I was defiant cause I'm just like him,	1258.3430
1241		1258.7755	and I did it anyway.	1259.6195
1243		1260.0765	<laugh>	1260.4589
1244	DCB_int_01	1260.5568	<laugh>]	1260.9485
1245	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	1261.0184	<ts>	1261.0837
1247		1261.1396	Had great big elaborate wedding.	1262.4686
1249		1263.8441	Yep.	1264.1099
1251		1264.3326	Mm-hm.	1264.6450
1253		1264.9248	Real big wedding	1265.5822
1255		1265.8620	<ts>	1265.9459
1256		1265.9459	\wi	1266.3842
1257		1266.3842	with the train, the dress, the whole nine yards. Yep,	1268.4686
1259		1268.6318	did that.	1268.9442
1261		1269.8441	Um,	1270.2545
1263		1270.4538	but I didn't let that	1271.2045
1265		1271.7454	keep me down.	1272.3516
1267		1273.5080	You know, I saw it	1274.3520
1269		1274.8136	as a opportunity to prove to the world that	1277.1253
1271		1277.2558	I can do this,	1278.2397
1273		1278.7759	and I can do this by myself.	1280.1095
1274	DCB_int_01	1280.3007	Right.	1280.5152
1275	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	1281.1960	You know.	1281.4757
1277		1282.1052	Um,	1282.7860
1279		1284.4355	and then my father kind of put in my mind,	1287.0188
1281		1288.9807	I know you can do this because I raised you so that you can be self sufficient. You can take care of yourself.	1293.1447
1283		1294.5797	Now, his whole model was,	1295.9040
1285		1296.2537	I'm still here if you need me,	1297.6805
1286	DCB_int_01	1298.2447	Right.	1298.4126
1287	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	1298.7903	but I need-	1299.1820
1289		1299.2799	You know, you-	1299.8488
1291		1300.2813	you-	1300.4398
1293		1300.5704	He put in- He instilled in me	1302.1464
1295		1302.5428	to-	1302.7060
1297		1302.8459	to just do it myself.	1303.8437
1299		1303.9417	And I did.	1304.3940
1300	DCB_int_01	1304.6224	Mm.	1304.7996
1301	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	1304.8509	You know,	1305.1074
1303		1305.4011	I look back now, do I have any regrets? Absolutely not.	1307.7967
1305		1309.1536	Some of the choices that I made-	1310.5665
1307		1311.0421	Whoo.	1311.2892
1309		1311.8208	Probably shouldn't have made them,	1312.7347
1311		1312.8455	but I did, and	1314.0625
1313		1314.5008	I think it	1314.9298
1315		1316.0909	makes you a better person	1317.5037
1317		1317.6949	if you can see-	1318.5715
1319		1319.0740	Look at all the positive things that came out of that, the decisions that you made.	1322.2774
1320	DCB_int_01	1322.7250	Right.	1322.9768
1321	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	1323.4524	Have enough common sense,	1324.3477
1323		1324.4398	don't do it again.	1325.2092
1324	DCB_int_01	1325.5076	Mm-hm. <laugh>	1325.9319
1325	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	1327.2376	Well sometimes we don't always do that,	1329.0048
1327		1329.0887	but	1329.3405
1329		1329.5037	um-	1329.8068
1331		1330.0819	But I look at it this way, I only had one child cause I realized	1332.3656
1333		1332.7386	I didn't wanna raise more than one	1334.0069
1335		1334.2214	child by myself.	1335.2846
1336	DCB_int_01	1335.5830	Mm-hm.	1335.8395
1337	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	1335.8803	Not to say that was gonna be the end,	1337.1579
1339		1337.3491	but	1337.6801
1341		1338.2956	I wanted to make sure that I could	1339.8251
1343		1339.9556	af-	1340.3193
1345		1340.7437	All the things that my parents were able to give me, I wanted to always make sure	1344.6500
1347		1345.0277	I was able to give her.	1346.0815
1348	DCB_int_01	1346.5059	[Right.]	1346.7250
1349	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	1346.5152	[And] that was the most important thing to me	1348.1705
1350		1348.4258	because	1348.7616
1352		1348.8921	she didn't ask to come into this world. She didn't ask to be a part of the confusion	1351.7598
1354		1352.1188	or the choices that I had made.	1353.5783
1356		1354.1507	So that was very important to me.	1355.4983
1358		1357.0137	So	1357.4660
1360		1357.5919	I	1358.1142
1362		1358.3613	um,	1358.6970
1364		1360.1146	stopped going to school.	1361.1039
1366		1361.8527	Uh,	1362.0532
1368		1362.5335	I had	1362.7573
1370		1363.5267	a year	1364.1748
1372		1364.3986	and a half of a semester to finish, but I gave it up,	1367.1253
1374		1367.6568	<ts>	1367.7268
1376		1368.2210	and I worked full time.	1369.3774
1378		1370.8323	And I was a wife, a mother, and worked for full time.	1372.7942
1379	DCB_int_01	1373.2092	[Where'd you work] at that point?	1374.3889
1380	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	1373.2278	[And that was-]	1373.7268
1381		1374.8599	At that point f- I worked for a um,	1376.8090
1383		1376.9815	computer science corporation.	1378.1985
1385		1378.7429	I was in the computer room.	1379.7594
1387		1380.1977	I was a computer operator, and that was way back before there was anything that	1383.7136
1389		1384.5051	everyone calls now.	1385.2885
1391		1385.6662	There was no such thing as iPods and laptops.	1388.0023
1393		1388.4686	Uh,	1388.8929
1395		1389.6250	back then they were	1390.4118
1397		1390.4864	mainframes. <laugh>	1391.7874
1399		1392.8738	<laugh> And you tell people that now, like, What? What is that? Yeah.	1395.3452
1401		1395.9700	Um, back when the computer took up- computer room took up like a whole floor.	1399.2982
1403		1399.8251	Great big /uninits/.	1400.9395
1405		1401.3918	So I did that	1402.5342
1407		1402.9248	for	1403.6801
1409		1404.2257	maybe	1405.1676
1411		1406.7577	nine years?	1407.6016
1413		1408.2766	Cause I think I was like maybe thirty,	1409.7641
1415		1410.2863	thirty one,	1410.9391
1417		1411.5173	before I s-	1411.9790
1419		1412.2121	started changing gears in my-	1413.8395
1421		1414.0202	in my profession.	1414.7948
1423		1415.8993	By that time I was divorced,	1417.4567
1425		1418.6411	and I bought my first home. I bought a townhouse in Forestville,	1421.9366
1427		1422.6407	um, when I was twenty six.	1423.8531
1429		1424.8183	<ts>	1424.8975
1431		1425.2193	Sight unseen.	1426.1052
1433		1426.6030	They showed me a picture on the piece of paper. /A little/	1428.5987
1435		1430.1795	plan.	1430.5945
1437		1430.7157	<laugh>	1431.1913
1439		1432.1519	Little brochure.	1432.9248
1440	DCB_int_01	1432.8487	Hm.	1433.1106
1441	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	1433.4284	I bought my first house, I qualified for and everything, by myself.	1436.5338
1443		1437.2752	And	1437.8814
1445		1438.4445	that was a major accomplishment.	1439.6801
1446	DCB_int_01	1440.1418	Mm-hm.	1440.5396
1447	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	1440.8738	Um,	1441.4614
1449		1442.0069	my	1442.2634
1451		1442.4686	daughter,	1442.8789
1453		1442.9722	I put her in private school. She went to /RD-NAME-6/.	1445.6113
1455		1446.4682	So	1446.9951
1457		1447.2888	I felt like I was evolving.	1448.7763
1459		1448.9908	I bought my first home.	1450.1798
1461		1450.9481	I purchased my own car.	1452.2630
1463		1453.4008	Um, that was my second car though.	1454.5478
1465		1454.6504	My /per-/ my parents	1455.6623
1467		1455.9747	purchased the first one.	1456.7382
1469		1457.6335	Um,	1458.3796
1471		1458.9438	and	1459.7365
1473		1460.1328	my child was in private school,	1461.4944
1475		1462.6030	so I'm thinking back in those days, that's	1464.4355
1477		1464.7340	the early	1465.3635
1479		1465.7038	eighties.	1466.2681
1480	DCB_int_01	1466.6271	Mm.	1466.7670
1481	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	1467.0747	That was major.	1467.7695
1483		1468.2311	I was twenty six years old.	1469.3164
1485		1469.7268	That was major.	1470.3796
1487		1471.5360	Um,	1472.1328
1489		1472.4872	so	1472.7950
1491		1473.0887	life went	1473.5597
1493		1474.1332	well for quite awhile, and	1475.4610
1495		1475.5682	then	1476.0765
1497		1476.7060	I think at thirty-	1478.0722
1499		1478.7483	I think I was thirty.	1479.6483
1501		1480.2113	I got married again.	1481.1113
1503		1481.9786	I dated for three years, and then I got married at thirty.	1483.9090
1505		1485.0234	Um,	1485.7089
1507		1486.3372	and that was going well.	1487.3910
1509		1487.7594	We moved	1488.4449
1511		1488.5661	out of	1489.1303
1513		1489.5873	um, my townhome. I sold my townhome	1491.6156
1515		1492.1927	and built um, a home that I'm in now in Clinton.	1494.6034
1517		1495.6759	[And I've been live-]	1496.3753
1518	DCB_int_01	1495.7971	[/And/ you built] it from-	1496.8556
1519		1497.2227	[/like/] the [plans] and [everything?]	1498.8500
1520	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	1497.3032	[We-]	1497.5317
1522		1497.6669	[We-]	1497.8954
1524		1498.2405	[The plans and] everything.	1499.3211
1525		1499.8760	It was	1500.3050
1527		1500.6547	gravel.	1501.1350
1529		1501.7038	The lot was gravel,	1502.7716
1531		1503.9129	and uh, my husband	1505.2931
1533		1505.5682	and I	1505.9226
1535		1507.0837	um,	1507.4800
1537		1508.6131	we kind of designed it the way we wanted it inside,	1510.6275
1539		1511.4936	and	1512.1045
1541		1512.2304	um-	1512.7526
1543		1513.7878	Because we actually	1514.6504
1545		1514.7670	bought the home-	1515.5830
1547		1517.3771	We got married in February of-	1518.7573
1549		1519.6432	of nineteen	1520.8882
1551		1522.5564	ninety.	1523.1019
1553		1523.9739	Make sure that's right.	1524.5894
1555		1525.1583	Yeah.	1525.3635
1557		1525.4754	Nineteen ninety,	1526.1981
1559		1526.3473	we built the home.	1527.0421
1561		1527.8441	And we moved into our home	1529.7967
1563		1530.0672	in	1530.5335
1565		1530.8599	August	1531.3495
1567		1531.4381	of nineteen ninety.	1532.2914
1569		1533.2799	So	1533.6576
1571		1534.4270	um,	1535.0693
1573		1536.6873	and we lived in that home together	1538.8509
1575		1539.5084	until two thousand five	1540.9947
1577		1541.9133	when we both	1543.1396
1579		1543.2702	realized by this time-	1544.6737
1581		1545.0468	We were very active in my daughter growing up,	1546.6555
1583		1546.8921	very active in all her school activities.	1548.6967
1585		1549.0464	I mean she was in ROTC. She was a	1551.0048
1587		1551.5084	um, second lieutenant	1552.6135
1589		1553.1206	in	1553.2651
1591		1553.5356	um, it-	1553.9086
1593		1554.4029	was at ROTC Air Force.	1555.9183
1595		1556.6178	Um,	1557.2752
1597		1557.6529	she was a cheerleader. She played volleyball,	1559.5356
1599		1559.8667	so our lives revolved around her.	1561.7645
1601		1562.3333	And my	1563.2752
1603		1563.4338	uh, ex husband	1564.3512
1605		1564.9994	has a son,	1566.0019
1607		1566.5055	so we had him for a brief period where he-	1568.9675
1609		1569.2333	They're from Baltimore.	1569.9001
1611		1570.2486	So he came, and he lived with us for awhile	1572.1558
1613		1572.8365	and- til	1573.7505
1615		1573.8857	that-	1574.0722
1617		1574.1888	we weren't able to	1575.1120
1619		1575.2659	maintain	1575.9001
1621		1576.5564	a cohesive household.	1577.7454
1623		1578.8972	So we-	1579.2515
1625		1579.3728	So his mother came and got him, and	1581.3825
1627		1582.3232	uh, my daughter got a chance to experience-	1584.1931
1629		1584.5568	She didn't really know a whole lot about people being divorced and things like that,	1587.6156
1631		1588.0528	so she got a chance to experience some of those things,	1589.9646
1633		1590.0345	and the dynamics of trying to have a blended family.	1592.2867
1635		1593.2473	And it worked for awhile.	1594.2824
1637		1594.6963	It did, when they were younger.	1595.8060
1639		1596.1698	And as they got older, when he was- Cause he's a year and half older than her-	1599.2706
1641		1599.6856	So when he	1600.4969
1643		1600.7289	decided he didn't	1601.8573
1645		1602.0065	want to	1602.6780
1647		1602.9485	obey with anybody,	1603.8997
1649		1604.5851	um,	1605.0141
1651		1606.5844	we went back to live with his mom.	1607.8154
1652	DCB_int_01	1608.2863	Hm.	1608.4682
1653	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	1608.6407	/unintelligible/	1608.8692
1655		1609.0790	so.	1609.2842
1657		1609.8531	And then my daughter, she graduated from high school. She went to /RD-SCHOOL-3/ High School,	1613.0460
1659		1613.8107	and	1614.6267
1661		1614.8785	uh, she graduated	1615.8064
1663		1616.0862	uh, seventh in her class.	1617.4291
1665		1618.3291	And with Honors.	1619.4157
1667		1619.8713	She got accepted-	1620.9718
1669		1621.6339	Every school that she applied to, she got accepted. She	1624.1006
1671		1624.6217	applied to Towson, um, Elon.	1627.0184
1673		1627.9277	Uh, she applied	1629.1960
1675		1629.3825	at-	1630.1985
1677		1630.9434	<ts>	1631.0460
1679		1631.4237	Delaware State offered her a full scholarship	1633.7971
1681		1635.0048	because of her academics.	1636.1052
1683		1636.8362	Um, and she got a partial	1638.7480
1685		1638.9018	scholarship-	1639.5640
1687		1639.9743	academic scholarship for Penn State,	1641.6751
1689		1642.2673	University	1642.7942
1691		1642.9387	main campus.	1643.6615
1693		1644.4682	So	1644.7759
1695		1644.9438	I wanted her to have the experience	1646.3753
1697		1646.5152	of	1646.8975
1699		1648.6450	knowing that	1649.2791
1701		1649.8713	our world is not just black	1651.4660
1703		1652.6364	or African American,	1653.7964
1705		1654.1461	whichever way you term-	1655.2418
1707		1656.0392	I wanted her to be able to get along with all people	1658.6831
1709		1659.0141	cause that's the way I raised her cause that's the way I was raised.	1661.2465
1710	DCB_int_01	1661.2465	Mm-hm.	1661.6265
1711	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	1662.1324	Um, so	1663.1163
1713		1663.4241	I-	1663.8484
1715		1665.5958	Some days I laugh now cause I think I'm still paying, but	1668.2956
1717		1669.0184	I wanted to make sure she got	1670.1795
1719		1670.5665	a good opportunity	1671.5084
1721		1671.6110	to go to the- one of the best schools,	1673.2512
1723		1673.6428	so she went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/.	1674.6034
1724	DCB_int_01	1674.9018	Mm.	1675.2935
1725	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	1675.4567	<ts>	1675.5267
1727		1675.6432	And	1676.0536
1729		1676.7577	she	1677.1400
1731		1677.6902	graduated- She lived on campus	1679.2185
1733		1679.4936	all four years.	1680.2583
1735		1680.7573	She graduated on time.	1682.0116
1737		1682.7950	She graduated with	1684.1798
1739		1684.3186	a-	1684.7989
1741		1684.9341	I believe	1685.6009
1743		1686.0578	a three point	1686.7293
1745		1686.8505	two	1687.1909
1747		1687.4101	average, which	1688.3846
1749		1689.0374	uh, coming from Prince George's County School system,	1691.3940
1751		1691.5962	that was major.	1692.1698
1752	DCB_int_01	1692.3703	Mm-hm.	1692.7946
1753	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	1693.2795	It was traumatic initially the first year for her	1695.6296
1755		1695.7311	because	1696.1321
1757		1697.0273	when you're	1697.5263
1759		1697.6009	n-	1697.6988
1761		1697.9832	graduated seventh of your class, you feel as though you've achieved something, you've arrived.	1701.5270
1763		1701.8907	When she got a chance to go to /RD-SCHOOL-2/, and they	1703.7454
1765		1704.0858	grouped them all together- all the freshmans	1705.8484
1767		1706.2261	in an auditorium, and she got to work with kids or be around kids that-	1709.8247
1769		1711.3821	from all different backgrounds,	1712.8136
1771		1712.9535	she realized that she really didn't know much of anything.	1716.3933
1773		1716.7992	And she wasn't really fully prepared	1718.3986
1775		1719.4757	um, academically,	1720.4725
1777		1721.3817	and that was	1722.0159
1779		1722.3143	heartening.	1722.7713
1781		1723.4520	But	1723.7785
1783		1723.9790	I didn't let her give up.	1724.7856
1785		1725.7497	I always instilled in her, You can do this. You put your mind to it, you can do this.	1728.8272
1787		1728.9112	I got your back.	1729.5779
1789		1730.8043	You know, your dad and I got- We're- We're there for you.	1732.8082
1791		1733.3164	You know you got your grandma and your granddad. Everybody is pulling for you to do this.	1736.7343
1793		1737.2613	It's gonna be hard. It's gonna be challenging, cause now she's	1739.5589
1795		1740.1418	really	1740.7946
1797		1742.3054	fighting for survival.	1743.5037
1799		1744.9807	But I wanted her to understand the independence, and she needed to know that	1747.8624
1801		1748.1468	she couldn't do that going to school here with me.	1749.6343
1802	DCB_int_01	1750.7243	Mm.	1750.8875
1803	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	1750.8688	Cause I n- I need you to know when I-	1752.5474
1804		1752.8552	You have forty dollars? I need you to know how to make that forty dollars last until next month.	1756.4550
1806		1757.5030	Or	1758.0439
1808		1758.6360	if	1758.9578
1810		1759.1117	I send you	1759.8064
1812		1759.9603	a care package,	1760.7903
1814		1760.9115	I need you to understand that	1762.2778
1816		1762.6263	you have a meal plan, yes, but that's not for you to buy clothes and things. That's for you to eat.	1765.9323
1818		1766.3660	So you need to understand how to budget. You need to un-	1768.5606
1820		1768.6916	You know, it was just life lessons.	1769.9879
1821	DCB_int_01	1770.0812	Mm-hm.	1770.4958
1822	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	1770.3842	So I think I gave her that- I afforded her that opportunity,	1773.0328
1823		1773.4338	and I am very proud of her because she succeeded,	1775.2645
1825		1775.6801	and she made it.	1776.3796
1827		1776.9624	She graduated on time.	1778.3613
1829		1778.8649	Um,	1779.3172
1831		1779.5364	she was the	1780.3897
1833		1781.0786	think	1781.1952
1835		1781.4796	second or third only African American from the School	1784.0769
1837		1784.5991	of Art	1785.0234
1839		1786.0586	Cause she graduated with um, a art degree and a concentration in photography	1789.5453
1840	DCB_int_01	1789.9183	Mm-hm.	1790.2681
1841	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	1790.6318	with a minor in computer graphics.	1792.3570
1843		1794.3609	So I was very proud of her,	1795.2236
1845		1795.5546	always have been.	1796.2541
1847		1796.8463	I mean she's- she's-	1797.6856
1849		1798.0586	I've been really blessed. She's never given me any trouble.	1800.5987
1851		1800.9811	I mean absolutely-	1802.0023
1853		1802.6831	You know, there have been little hiccups, but those are just life lessons but	1805.3817
1855		1805.9086	nothing major.	1806.8505
1857		1807.2795	You know, no	1807.7878
1859		1808.2028	n-	1808.3193
1861		1808.7390	She might have cut class. If she did, I don't know anything about it.	1811.5620
1862	DCB_int_01	1811.5484	[<laugh>]	1813.1163
1863	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	1812.3563	[<laugh>]	1812.5847
1865		1812.8132	[She didn't] share it with me.	1813.7738
1866		1814.1049	I- You know, I've never had to get the phone call three o'clock in the morning, Ma come get me cause I'm in jail, or	1818.6733
1868		1819.2096	um- no drug use or anything like that, so I really	1822.1659
1870		1822.5144	truly have been blessed.	1823.6522
1872		1824.5335	Truly.	1824.9671
1873	DCB_int_01	1826.1655	So	1826.6784
1875		1827.5923	once you moved out of- I'm kind of going	1829.7314
1876	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	1830.2630	[Back?]	1830.5754
1877	DCB_int_01	1830.3190	[back]	1830.5614
1878	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	1830.7899	[Okay.]	1831.0650
1879	DCB_int_01	1830.8692	[a little] bit.	1831.3635
1880		1831.8577	Once you moved	1832.4779
1882		1832.5618	out of	1833.6996
1884		1834.0481	DC-	1834.4585
1886		1834.5890	I know we were just	1835.4004
1888		1835.4936	eating dinner and you were talking about	1836.8552
1890		1837.4101	there's no need for you to go into DC.	1838.9034
1892		1839.2752	So how often do you go into the city proper now?	1841.7454
1893	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	1842.9065	Wow.	1843.2842
1895		1843.5127	Um,	1844.0815
1897		1844.1935	thanks to my sister probably on-	1845.9840
1899		1846.1041	during the summer, more	1847.1346
1901		1847.2791	on the weekends	1847.9413
1903		1848.2024	because now that my mom is not living in DC any longer,	1850.7530
1904	DCB_int_01	1850.8649	Mm-hm.	1851.2146
1905	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	1851.4618	and we just moved her here	1852.5575
1907		1853.2605	um,	1853.6568
1909		1853.7408	in Dec-	1854.2583
1911		1854.4589	December.	1855.0184
1912	DCB_int_01	1855.3681	Mm-hm.	1855.6619
1913	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	1855.9230	So	1856.4779
1915		1859.2651	maybe	1860.5335
1917		1860.9904	um,	1861.7132
1919		1864.0027	three-	1864.3524
1921		1864.9947	maybe four times a month.	1866.4122
1922	DCB_int_01	1867.1303	Oh that's still pretty frequent.	1868.5636
1924		1868.8229	I thought you were gonna say [like], a year.	1870.2125
1925	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	1869.4151	[Well],	1869.8768
1926		1870.3466	[no], I kind of just	1871.4284
1927	DCB_int_01	1870.3559	[<laugh>]	1870.6030
1928	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	1871.8387	drive through it.	1872.6407
1930		1872.7433	<laugh>	1873.0883
1932		1873.6199	<laugh>	1874.2960
1934		1874.5432	I h-	1874.8229
1936		1875.0934	You know, I go back- Like, s- You know, we go over and check on the house or we take my mom back to the house,	1878.9858
1937	DCB_int_01	1879.3075	Mm-hm.	1879.5546
1938	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	1879.5220	especially since the weather's been really really nice.	1881.3125
1939		1882.0493	But I really don't-	1883.2651
1941		1885.0137	When I- When I-	1885.8018
1943		1885.9510	My husband,	1886.5245
1945		1887.0981	when he and I- Cause he's from DC as well,	1888.8500
1947		1889.2512	my current husband,	1890.0485
1949		1890.8272	so when we started dating,	1892.4872
1951		1892.7856	um,	1893.4245
1953		1893.8721	we would go in to the city,	1895.5636
1955		1896.0019	and we would go to concerts, and we would go to the museums.	1898.9442
1957		1899.7275	Um,	1900.2766
1959		1900.6730	we would go just walk on the mall	1902.3050
1961		1903.3961	or he would take me down Georgetown, and we'd just go /walkinging/.	1905.9793
1963		1906.1099	You know, just-	1906.6135
1965		1907.7175	just to kind of hang out.	1908.9391
1967		1909.0510	Um,	1909.4707
1969		1910.4266	I've-	1910.6504
1971		1911.4198	I've experienced	1912.1181
1973		1912.1927	U Street since it's been revitalized. I've	1914.3516
1975		1914.5614	done H Street.	1915.4847
1977		1916.3473	Now is that something I've done by myself? No.	1918.1192
1979		1918.5237	<laugh>	1918.9387
1981		1919.5030	I haven't.	1919.9739
1983		1920.4868	I can admit	1920.9375
1985		1921.0417	that.	1921.3588
1987		1921.8810	It's a lot of changes. There's a lot of-	1923.1633
1989		1923.4618	You know, I ride through the neighborhoods now that I grew up in or	1926.8039
1991		1927.2655	places I've traveled	1928.3613
1993		1928.5012	in growing up	1929.2892
1995		1929.5504	when I lived there,	1930.4969
1997		1930.9108	and I'm	1931.3258
1999		1931.4284	amazed at the changes.	1932.7992
2001		1932.9298	I'm amazed at h-	1933.8064
2003		1934.3660	how-	1934.9115
2005		1936.8875	<sigh>	1937.2558
2007		1937.4610	When I grew up it was	1938.5801
2009		1939.3028	all African American, all black.	1941.1307
2011		1942.4736	Now you walk down any street	1944.4589
2013		1944.5941	that	1944.8132
2015		1945.2562	was like that and it's-	1946.3800
2017		1946.6458	it's not that way anymore.	1947.7369
2019		1948.4130	You know, it's not that way anymore at all.	1949.9599
2021		1950.3749	And that's	1950.9531
2023		1951.0883	especially U Street,	1952.4359
2025		1952.5991	um,	1952.9675
2027		1953.0607	H Street,	1953.8488
2029		1954.6590	um,	1954.8921
2031		1955.1113	heck, Minnesota Avenue.	1956.4215
2033		1957.0231	And I'm thinking, okay, you see	1958.6224
2035		1960.1519	Caucasians with babies,	1961.5403
2037		1961.8294	strollers and dogs,	1963.0277
2039		1963.4334	and I'm thinking	1964.1142
2041		1964.6877	where- What happened?	1965.8208
2043		1966.8128	You know, but then	1967.6149
2045		1967.8294	um,	1968.1744
2047		1968.4449	I get teased by my family because they call me the suburbanite	1970.9815
2049		1971.0701	cause I hang out in the suburbs.	1972.3524
2051		1972.8641	I live in Clinton.	1973.6382
2053		1974.3143	That's usually where you'll find me, in Clinton,	1976.2960
2055		1976.8136	home.	1977.1167
2057		1977.7042	If I'm not in Fort Washington at my sister's, I'm in Clinton at home.	1980.1371
2059		1981.1816	Um,	1981.8158
2061		1983.3778	I	1983.7975
2063		1984.5156	don't-	1985.1346
2065		1987.5453	I feel safe, and I feel	1988.9628
2067		1989.0934	secure f- in my mom's neighborhood	1990.7616
2069		1991.3910	because	1991.7641
2071		1992.3516	a lot of the	1993.0510
2073		1993.3122	elders	1993.8484
2075		1993.9696	still live there,	1995.0887
2076	DCB_int_01	1995.4198	Mm.	1995.7415
2077	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	1996.0948	so I don't have a problem with traveling in those areas.	1998.4402
2079		1999.2003	Uh,	1999.7785
2081		1999.8810	venturing further like,	2001.9187
2083		2002.2311	Northwest or	2003.6289
2085		2004.8832	just certain areas,	2005.7038
2087		2006.3660	I'm not uncomfortable,	2007.5737
2089		2008.1973	but I don't do it frequently.	2009.3378
2090	DCB_int_01	2009.6102	Hm.	2009.8014
2091	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2009.9040	I just don't.	2010.4169
2093		2010.7526	I don't have a reason to.	2011.6432
2095		2012.7297	Um,	2013.0841
2097		2013.6949	m- but I-	2014.5237
2099		2015.1766	Over the years- I would say the last three years-	2017.4194
2101		2017.7225	I've tried to get out more and more. Now I-	2019.3545
2103		2019.4804	I love going to Eastern Market.	2020.6555
2104	DCB_int_01	2021.0180	Mm-hm.	2021.3957
2105	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2021.7081	I love doing the walk and going through there.	2023.2376
2107		2023.5733	I love still going down to the wharf.	2025.0934
2109		2025.3592	I do enjoy that.	2026.2731
2111		2026.7196	I still love certain parts of Hain's Point,	2028.7946
2113		2029.3355	just to ride through and kind of just-	2030.9302
2115		2031.0934	It brings back old memories or	2032.9994
2117		2033.6941	um,	2034.3936
2119		2035.1629	happier times maybe.	2036.5385
2121		2036.6224	You know, growing up.	2037.3125
2123		2039.0553	Uh, few	2039.7035
2125		2039.7967	places	2040.4635
2127		2041.4567	I	2041.5500
2129		2041.6945	think um,	2042.3753
2131		2042.5059	Fourteenth Street area,	2043.8979
2133		2045.0693	um like,	2045.6055
2135		2045.7268	Busboys and Poets and things like that. There's certain restaurants-	2048.1235
2137		2048.4779	I still do- We do restaurants. Now I- I definitely do those,	2051.2885
2139		2051.6568	but just	2052.0345
2141		2052.3656	out walking	2053.3168
2143		2053.7878	and just	2054.3380
2145		2055.2613	you know,	2055.5690
2147		2055.9455	in the elements,	2056.9154
2149		2057.1672	I don't do that a-	2057.7781
2151		2057.8667	as much.	2058.4169
2152	DCB_int_01	2059.2376	So I wanna ask you	2060.1468
2154		2060.3054	three different questions, so I hopefully I remember them.	2062.1659
2156		2062.5517	The first one- You talked about the revitalization of H Street and U Street,	2066.0211
2157	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2066.1515	Mm-hm.	2066.4313
2158	DCB_int_01	2066.9115	um,	2067.4897
2160		2067.8814	can you talk about it	2069.0134
2162		2069.1766	before-	2069.7827
2164		2070.4868	before it was revitalized? So talk about earlier memories you had of those two areas.	2074.8035
2165	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2076.4822	Um,	2076.9858
2167		2079.2006	wow.	2079.5352
2169		2081.0880	They're brief.	2081.6801
2170	DCB_int_01	2082.2583	Mkay.	2082.6407
2171	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2082.7806	Um, they're very brief,	2083.6939
2173		2084.1935	and they were brief because my dad was	2085.8581
2175		2086.3372	very strict. He didn't allow me to	2088.6407
2177		2089.8064	um-	2090.1328
2179		2090.3473	If I needed to go somewhere in the city,	2092.0586
2180	DCB_int_01	2092.2558	Mm-hm.	2092.5458
2181	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2092.6030	he drove me.	2093.1859
2182	DCB_int_01	2093.6029	Mm-hm.	2093.9584
2183	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2094.7106	Um,	2095.3495
2185		2095.7645	outside of	2096.3520
2187		2096.6038	me driving myself back and forth to college,	2098.5657
2189		2099.0833	because I s-	2099.4843
2191		2099.7128	You know, I stayed- I lived at home,	2100.8878
2193		2102.1888	I really didn't venture.	2103.5877
2195		2103.7462	I wasn't a partier. I didn't hang out, didn't go to the clubs.	2106.7200
2197		2107.6013	N-	2107.8904
2199		2108.0023	I didn't do any of those things.	2109.2146
2201		2109.4151	I just-	2109.6704
2203		2109.7730	I never did, that's just never was a part of me.	2111.5076
2205		2112.0019	So the memories that	2112.9718
2207		2113.0604	I have like,	2113.8158
2209		2114.2214	in the Spingarn area	2115.5783
2211		2115.6949	or the Benning Road area	2117.3817
2213		2117.8014	leading into H Street,	2119.2189
2214	DCB_int_01	2119.2888	Mm-hm.	2119.5919
2215	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2119.8297	that was more so because I played sports.	2122.1705
2217		2122.8175	I played softball.	2123.7594
2219		2124.6314	So- and I worked-	2125.5033
2221		2125.6386	I worked in /RD-WORK-6/, and I played ball for /RD-WORK-6/.	2128.7949
2223		2129.6995	So	2130.1285
2225		2130.3243	that's really where I	2131.6859
2227		2131.7826	got	2132.0671
2229		2132.5427	my foundation as far as all my experiences	2135.3078
2231		2135.6808	as far as really DC goes	2137.4527
2233		2137.9318	um, because we got a chance to play all over the city.	2139.8612
2235		2140.8275	But that was as a team. I still never was-	2142.6274
2237		2142.8326	That wasn't alone. That was as a team.	2144.5046
2239		2145.0743	And of course, it was a little challenging cause my sister was our coach.	2147.8440
2241		2148.6460	Um (laughing),	2149.2149
2243		2149.6008	so I have very f-	2150.3235
2245		2150.4168	great memories.	2151.3214
2247		2151.7177	I have the memories	2152.6177
2249		2152.7482	of	2153.1866
2251		2154.0026	um,	2154.3336
2253		2155.0610	traveling	2155.6812
2255		2155.8397	down U Street	2156.8551
2257		2157.6291	when	2158.1561
2259		2159.1539	at	2159.2938
2261		2159.4430	that time,	2160.1145
2263		2160.2217	a lot of	2161.0331
2265		2161.3595	the buildings and things	2162.5240
2267		2162.9810	were boarded up	2163.8343
2269		2165.0327	um, from-	2165.7974
2271		2166.2171	from the sixties and seventies and all the riots and things like that.	2168.8225
2273		2169.4007	It wasn't-	2169.8716
2275		2171.3404	I won't say	2171.8440
2277		2171.9886	all,	2172.3663
2279		2172.4735	but I would say probably	2173.5926
2281		2173.8817	thirty percent	2174.4634
2283		2175.5452	was kind of boarded up.	2176.6503
2285		2176.7669	Um,	2177.3125
2287		2178.7346	you didn't have the people-	2179.8153
2289		2179.9692	Like,	2180.1743
2291		2181.1582	I didn't experience home- the homeless	2183.3777
2293		2183.4896	people that we have now.	2184.7253
2295		2185.2615	I don't remember	2186.3748
2297		2187.6385	homeless people back then.	2188.8975
2299		2189.1213	I- I really just don't.	2190.2404
2301		2190.3989	I don't.	2190.6087
2303		2191.0237	Because I remember when I was in high school I would catch a bus	2193.9742
2305		2194.5571	that would take me	2195.6202
2307		2195.8394	from	2196.3290
2309		2196.4409	/RD-SCHOOL-2/ High School	2197.4481
2311		2198.0671	and bring me all the way over to Benning Road,	2200.3845
2313		2201.1119	and then I would transfer at Eighth and H	2203.3257
2315		2204.0158	to catch the Benning Heights bus	2205.3074
2317		2205.5732	that used to bring me right down the street from my door,	2207.5596
2319		2207.7927	my house.	2208.3430
2320	DCB_int_01	2208.5015	Mm-hm.	2208.8148
2321	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2209.2196	Um,	2209.5926
2323		2211.3540	and	2211.8017
2325		2211.8716	people weren't-	2212.5711
2327		2212.8788	You weren't afraid to ride. I would-	2214.2031
2329		2214.5481	I-	2214.7346
2331		2214.8792	If- You know, when I studied dance, I was coming from Howard University cause that's where I studie-	2218.9534
2333		2219.0560	where we practiced,	2219.8953
2335		2220.4968	up near Banneker,	2221.3408
2337		2221.6381	and I'd get on a bus.	2222.8831
2339		2223.4991	There was no s-	2224.1332
2341		2224.7709	subway hadn't started just yet.	2226.2210
2343		2226.6500	The early part of my high school, I think it around	2228.6318
2345		2228.8276	eleventh grade, I think is when we got the-	2230.3792
2347		2230.5098	the- the subway system.	2231.6149
2349		2232.4682	But you didn't have any fear.	2233.4614
2351		2233.5873	You-	2233.8904
2353		2234.0396	you just got on the bus, and you went where you were going.	2236.2265
2355		2236.5191	People didn't bother you.	2237.6102
2357		2238.2164	Go get it. (whispering to baby)	2238.5381
2359		2239.0044	Go get it. (whispering to baby)	2239.2935
2361		2240.3380	Go get it. (whispering to baby)	2240.5851
2363		2240.8323	There you go. (whispered to baby)	2241.2892
2365		2242.6030	Okay good job! (whispered)	2243.6615
2367		2244.5568	Sh.	2245.3914
2369		2246.0629	So	2246.3800
2371		2246.8416	[you didn't- you didn't have um-]	2248.9201
2372	DCB_int_01	2246.8416	[<laugh>]	2248.9201
2373	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2250.8878	You didn't worry-	2251.5080
2375		2252.0536	You didn't think about crime.	2253.3732
2377		2253.5783	You didn't think [about-]	2254.5948
2378	DCB_int_01	2254.2491	[Mm.]	2254.5719
2379	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2255.3304	Um, and just to take you back	2256.4822
2381		2256.5708	cause I don't know if this will help but	2257.8670
2383		2258.0209	when I was in high school,	2258.9861
2385		2259.9280	the main-	2260.4491
2387		2260.5471	the biggest thing was-	2261.9786
2389		2263.8251	I think there was	2264.5245
2391		2265.1120	one young lady that was	2266.2253
2393		2266.3466	pregnant	2266.7056
2395		2266.8362	that was in high school.	2267.7361
2396	DCB_int_01	2268.2071	Mm.	2268.4775
2397	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2268.4868	Just one.	2268.9345
2399		2269.8810	Um, there wa-	2270.6970
2401		2270.8602	You might have gotten caught	2272.5062
2403		2272.9341	on the bleachers smoking	2274.2164
2405		2275.1816	a cigarette.	2275.9603
2407		2276.9022	Marijuana was-	2277.9767
2409		2278.9014	wasn't a problem.	2279.6941
2410	DCB_int_01	2280.1324	Mm-hm.	2280.5381
2411	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2280.5381	It wasn't a everyday occurrence.	2282.0582
2412		2282.9628	So	2283.6763
2414		2283.8570	those things that the kids going through [now-]	2286.5941
2415	DCB_int_01	2286.3379	[Mm.] Yeah.	2286.9647
2416	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2286.9904	those challenges-	2288.0722
2418		2288.7250	we didn't have those challenges.	2290.1286
2420		2291.1113	You know, the biggest thing was what team were we playing, who were we trying to beat in football on-	2295.1633
2422		2295.3172	on Friday evening's	2296.2918
2424		2296.5331	game.	2296.9481
2425	DCB_int_01	2297.2232	Right.	2297.5356
2427		2297.7128	[Right.]	2297.9926
2428	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2297.8014	[You got] a chance to go to a night game every now and then. You didn't have them that often. Most of your games were in the	2302.3384
2429		2302.5471	afternoon.	2303.0973
2431		2303.8014	Um,	2304.2910
2433		2304.4775	/RD-SCHOOL-2/ High School played	2305.8391
2435		2305.9463	Roosevelt,	2306.5991
2437		2306.7903	I believe it was,	2307.5270
2439		2307.8068	at the stadium	2308.7382
2441		2309.1812	while- when I was in high school.	2310.5335
2443		2311.0417	So cheering at the stadium, that was a big deal.	2312.8276
2445		2313.0374	So you didn't have all those-	2314.2824
2447		2314.4585	all of the-	2315.0693
2449		2317.5873	That I'm aware of,	2318.5385
2451		2318.6737	all of the crime.	2319.5457
2453		2320.6077	You know,	2320.9434
2455		2321.0413	the fear.	2321.5729
2457		2321.9553	You didn't have all that.	2323.0231
2459		2324.1095	You- you- you- you just- you just didn't have it.	2325.9840
2461		2326.9667	So	2327.4423
2463		2327.9972	my memories	2328.7200
2465		2328.8319	of-	2329.2422
2467		2330.6458	And it sounds so strange, but I have to- I can be honest.	2332.7662
2469		2333.2139	All my memories of H Street and all that area,	2335.4381
2471		2336.7017	it was just normal.	2337.5084
2472	DCB_int_01	2338.5247	Mm.	2338.9644
2473	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2339.4743	It was nothing-	2340.6127
2475		2342.2867	I- I mean I know that there had to have been some crime going on cause you would hear certain things.	2345.8247
2477		2346.3330	But it's not like it is today.	2347.5453
2479		2347.6526	You didn't have killings. You didn't have-	2348.8975
2481		2349.2799	You know, you might have fights- street fights,	2351.1206
2483		2351.6941	but it wasn't anybody shooting anybody.	2353.3635
2485		2353.6246	[Um],	2353.9510
2486	DCB_int_01	2353.6246	[Right.]	2353.9510
2487	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2354.2354	that just wasn't heard of.	2355.1960
2488	DCB_int_01	2355.5597	Right.	2355.8581
2489	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2356.4025	You know the biggest thing for me is	2357.6055
2491		2357.7641	I got caught-	2358.3936
2493		2358.7293	In the	2359.2049
2495		2359.6153	tenth grade, I cut-	2360.4639
2497		2362.2580	I cut fourth	2363.1859
2499		2363.3118	period	2363.7921
2501		2364.0252	cause I wanted to go- No, I cut	2365.2236
2503		2365.5453	third period	2366.0769
2505		2366.3753	cause I wanted to go to lunch early,	2367.6669
2507		2367.9094	and you could leave campus in high school.	2369.4983
2509		2370.2677	That was a major thing for me cause I cut class. I thought I was doing something.	2373.1866
2511		2373.3079	<laugh>	2374.5809
2513		2375.2418	<laugh> And that was-	2375.9366
2515		2376.3469	And to me, that was who- me being ob-	2378.1608
2517		2378.2308	You know, I was a rebel.	2379.0234
2519		2379.4618	I /caught/ class,	2380.0761
2521		2380.1414	and I got caught!	2380.8641
2522	DCB_int_01	2381.3491	[Oh. Mm-hm.]	2382.1092
2523	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2381.3584	[<laugh>]	2381.6988
2524		2382.2164	So	2382.7759
2526		2383.0324	you know, but	2383.8297
2527	DCB_int_01	2384.2681	<laugh>	2384.5292
2528	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2384.6364	you didn't-	2385.1447
2529	DCB_int_01	2385.0328	[<laugh>]	2386.5013
2530	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2385.5783	[you just didn't] have-	2386.8921
2531	DCB_int_01	2387.1812	You didn't do [what] you see today?	2388.9065
2532	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2387.8993	[You-]	2388.1511
2533		2388.9811	Oh my gosh, no.	2389.6479
2535		2390.1981	Not at all.	2391.0461
2537		2391.4851	I- The things that kids do nowadays,	2393.1905
2539		2393.3025	you never would have thought-	2394.1278
2541		2394.6174	My father was crazy. You	2395.7738
2543		2395.9463	<laugh>	2396.1375
2545		2397.1167	You would not live to see the next day.	2398.6077
2546	DCB_int_01	2398.8455	<laugh>	2399.2558
2547	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2399.3444	He'd just-	2399.5729
2549		2399.8387	But- but he-	2400.5661
2551		2400.7666	I think what it is,	2401.7365
2553		2402.4872	they instilled	2403.4105
2555		2403.6529	a certain level of fear,	2404.9994
2556	DCB_int_01	2405.5869	Mm.	2405.9879
2557	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2406.4682	and it wasn't	2407.1863
2559		2407.3588	that-	2407.6479
2561		2408.9722	You know, the sta-	2409.6949
2563		2409.8441	statement people make, Oh I brought you in this world, I'll take you out- It wasn't so much that,	2413.0324
2565		2413.3635	it was that you had a level of [respect]	2415.0001
2566	DCB_int_01	2414.7312	[/Unintelligible/]	2415.3767
2567	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2415.1260	[for] your elders.	2416.0073
2568		2417.0973	You know?	2417.5123
2570		2418.6733	First of all,	2419.3308
2572		2419.6619	I'm a representation of my parents. If I'm'a go out here and act a fool,	2422.5809
2574		2423.7175	I'm'a have to	2424.1837
2576		2424.4169	go	2424.6780
2578		2424.8132	back	2425.0184
2580		2425.1909	to them,	2425.6013
2581	DCB_int_01	2425.6013	[Mm-hm.]	2426.2062
2582	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2425.8158	[and that?]	2426.5338
2583		2426.6504	No.	2426.9535
2585		2428.3326	No, that- that wa- it wasn't worth- whatever-	2430.3143
2587		2430.6687	Whatever it could have been that I wanted to do-	2432.3846
2589		2433.0421	Now I was not a saint.	2433.9793
2591		2434.1041	Don't get me wrong.	2434.6776
2593		2435.2092	You know,	2435.6195
2595		2436.0578	I- But I really didn't do- I lived a very sheltered life,	2438.9582
2597		2439.7322	unlike my sister. She got a chance to go out and go party and	2442.3982
2599		2442.6034	you know,	2442.8738
2601		2443.7551	enjoy life.	2444.3567
2603		2444.4825	I	2444.8043
2605		2445.0001	chose not to.	2445.7509
2607		2446.1612	Because we're twelve years apart,	2447.5123
2609		2447.6382	by the time my parents came along,	2449.3262
2611		2449.8064	they weren't as strict	2450.5898
2613		2450.7623	on me.	2451.2193
2615		2452.2078	But I also didn't wanna do a lot of the things.	2454.5008
2617		2455.2049	Like I went to my first	2456.1142
2619		2456.2308	house party-	2456.8742
2621		2457.9793	I think I mighta been	2459.6382
2623		2459.8433	seventeen?	2460.3516
2625		2462.0909	And I went one- to one, and that	2463.7089
2627		2463.8290	party was literally across the street	2465.3491
2629		2465.7967	from my parents' house,	2467.0744
2630	DCB_int_01	2467.4800	<laugh>	2468.1282
2631	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2468.1748	and my father at eleven fifty nine	2470.5249
2633		2471.2045	was banging on the door to the parents and telling them,	2473.5733
2635		2473.9370	She has to come home.	2474.8090
2637		2475.3918	I was not gonna go through that embarrassment again, so I didn't go to parties anymore.	2478.0532
2639		2479.2888	I just refused to go.	2480.2867
2641		2480.4359	You not gonna embarrass me like that again.	2482.3273
2643		2483.1626	You know.	2483.5076
2645		2483.9459	So	2484.3656
2647		2485.2049	times are so different now,	2486.9115
2649		2487.6250	you know.	2488.0027
2651		2488.6310	Um,	2489.0600
2653		2490.4635	<ts>	2490.5754
2655		2491.3541	so DC to me	2492.7716
2657		2495.1812	was	2495.4004
2659		2498.1981	quiet.	2498.5758
2660	DCB_int_01	2500.0030	Mm.	2500.4755
2661	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2500.5191	Um, I think I was exposed to a lot of	2502.5568
2663		2503.0837	the more positive things	2504.3333
2664	DCB_int_01	2504.7051	Mm-hm.	2505.0281
2665	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2505.0281	than the negative.	2505.7509
2666	DCB_int_01	2506.1879	Yeah.	2506.5387
2667	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2507.1206	You know,	2507.4470
2669		2507.7314	so that's why I say yeah, I was kind of sheltered.	2509.5273
2671		2510.1468	I was kind of sheltered.	2510.9209
2672	DCB_int_01	2511.2846	Tell me about Hain's Point. I remember when I was in college that was one of my favorite places to hang out especially because the statue was there,	2517.2752
2674		2517.6063	and then they moved it and that really hurt my feelings.	2519.8154
2675	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2519.7548	Mm-hm.	2520.2677
2676	DCB_int_01	2520.3190	But I have no reco- I remember people talked about	2522.7856
2678		2522.8463	you know, when you'd go there to hook up and hang out, and	2525.3910
2680		2526.0765	I don't have recollection of that. I just	2527.6138
2681	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2527.8624	[Neither do I.]	2528.4546
2682	DCB_int_01	2528.0396	[walked there] to sit and	2528.9628
2683		2529.1214	watch the- sit at the statue.	2530.4177
2684	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2531.0740	Okay so	2532.2723
2686		2532.5941	I didn't have much more than what you had,	2534.0116
2688		2534.1095	[although w- there] was no statute.	2535.3825
2689	DCB_int_01	2534.2867	[<laugh>]	2534.5851
2690	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2536.1880	Um, growing	2536.9434
2692		2537.0553	up,	2537.3491
2694		2538.4262	um,	2539.0091
2696		2540.0582	<ts>	2540.1375
2698		2540.4499	I remember going down- And I was-	2542.1705
2700		2542.8502	My first boyfriend that had a car. His name was /RD-NAME-1/,	2545.8904
2702		2546.6504	and his mom would let him use the car.	2547.9595
2704		2548.3466	And we drove down there, and you would go down I guess kids call parking now.	2551.5173
2706		2552.0769	And you would go down and sit and watch the-	2553.9560
2708		2554.1705	by the water, and watch	2555.2651
2710		2555.5030	every now and then you see a boat or you see the airplanes. You can go on the side where the air-	2558.6597
2712		2558.9115	You know, where you can see the planes taking off or landing.	2560.7687
2714		2561.6941	And-	2562.3283
2716		2563.0883	But that was rare. You didn't- That wasn't something you got to do all the time.	2566.2684
2717	DCB_int_01	2566.7485	Mm.	2567.0572
2718	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2567.4517	You could-	2567.7221
2720		2567.9739	more so during the day	2569.3075
2721	DCB_int_01	2569.6712	Mm-hm.	2570.1002
2722	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2570.3753	kind of just ride through.	2571.7928
2724		2571.9409	It was a nice little hang out spot.	2573.3771
2726		2573.7548	I do recall going	2575.1210
2728		2575.2655	um, not just Hain's Point but	2577.0328
2730		2577.3778	Anacostia Park.	2578.2591
2731	DCB_int_01	2578.6450	Mm-hm.	2579.0973
2732	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2579.3211	I remember riding there.	2580.5335
2734		2581.0277	I remember,	2581.5220
2736		2583.1074	back when I grew up-	2584.2405
2738		2585.6568	Let's say under the age of eighteen-	2587.3541
2740		2587.9650	As I said I was,	2588.7064
2742		2589.1727	you know, the da-	2589.9047
2744		2590.1834	one- one-	2590.8502
2746		2591.0180	dancer by day and	2592.3609
2748		2593.2329	tomboy by night. You know I would ride my bike, and like if the guys were going to ride bikes-	2596.9154
2750		2597.2558	It was one other young lady, she was like maybe three years older than me.	2599.6013
2752		2599.8997	We would go ride our ten speeds, and we were-	2601.8488
2754		2602.1647	That's how I got chance to tour the	2603.5356
2756		2603.6428	whole c-	2603.9599
2758		2604.3609	all of DC,	2605.0417
2760		2605.3541	areas I had really never been in before.	2607.1587
2762		2607.5643	Going to the-	2608.1181
2764		2608.2160	You know, we rode from Southeast all the way to the zoo.	2610.2723
2766		2610.9904	You can't get kids to get on a bicycle and do anything like that now.	2613.0374
2768		2613.4757	But we- You know, we would go to the zoo, or I got a chance to experience the Kennedy Center.	2617.2469
2770		2617.7971	Or	2618.4313
2772		2618.5711	um,	2619.0561
2774		2619.3032	Ana- riding through Anacostia Park on a bicycle,	2622.0578
2776		2622.7013	or we actually rode to Hain's Point and rode the circ- You know, went all the way around.	2626.3011
2778		2626.7336	Both East and West Potomac Park,	2628.6454
2780		2628.8179	you know, on a bike.	2629.7551
2782		2630.2261	So	2630.5945
2784		2630.9815	we did athletic things like that.	2632.7802
2786		2633.0926	Um,	2633.4330
2788		2634.1138	as far as just hanging out with friends,	2636.6364
2790		2637.4011	I think	2637.8161
2792		2638.1239	as a senior in high school,	2639.9639
2794		2640.7153	I might have got a chance to do that maybe once or twice.	2643.7928
2796		2644.7989	My life experience was based around-	2646.7806
2798		2647.1396	/RD-SCHOOL-2/ Junior High School	2648.2857
2800		2648.8509	Recreation Center.	2649.9887
2802		2650.4072	That's where my sister was the assistant director and the director.	2653.2749
2804		2654.0023	So	2654.7343
2806		2655.1866	my	2655.9374
2808		2656.1134	experiences	2657.0600
2810		2657.6102	were geared	2658.2817
2812		2658.9205	of being a Recreation Center	2660.8556
2814		2661.2799	kid,	2661.5970
2816		2662.2486	[a Rec kid.]	2662.9248
2817	DCB_int_01	2662.2618	[Gotcha.]	2662.9260
2818	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2663.9739	You know?	2664.2677
2819	DCB_int_01	2664.3143	Mm-hm.	2664.5941
2820	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2664.7153	So,	2665.1629
2822		2665.7038	and I think that's another reason why I didn't develop all of the real strong f-	2668.7895
2824		2668.9387	bonds	2669.3631
2826		2669.6615	in my neighborhood because	2670.5708
2828		2671.0371	from age thirteen	2672.3333
2830		2672.4919	to age eighteen, I worked for /RD-WORK-6/.	2674.6881
2832		2675.2745	Every summer	2675.9972
2834		2676.2024	and during the week	2677.3868
2836		2678.1701	two or three hours	2678.9488
2838		2679.0654	every evening after school.	2680.2778
2839	DCB_int_01	2680.8268	Right.	2681.0880
2840	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2681.2512	So that was my whole life.	2682.1511
2841	DCB_int_01	2682.3842	Mm.	2682.6081
2842	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2682.9438	So if I wasn't dancing,	2683.9929
2844		2684.9722	I was at /RD-WORK-6/.	2686.0761
2846		2687.3957	Um,	2687.8993
2848		2688.4029	I got a chance to-	2689.3448
2850		2689.6153	Now we had like dances and sock hops or whatever you wanna call it,	2692.8315
2852		2693.2698	so that's- I got my experience at partying.	2695.1070
2854		2695.9556	Um, I got my ex-	2696.6924
2856		2696.8043	my first experience with drinking anything-	2698.8500
2858		2699.2931	I remember Pink Champale was the first alcoholic drink I ever had.	2702.1561
2860		2702.7763	I think I was seventeen.	2704.1134
2862		2705.3164	I learned then I didn't like drinking.	2706.7106
2864		2706.9205	<laugh>	2707.6899
2866		2707.9463	That didn't go well-	2708.9250
2868		2709.2473	didn't go well at all,	2710.1006
2870		2710.4911	but we- /seemed like/ everybody else was doing it, and I ch-	2712.5568
2872		2712.7526	chose to you know, k-	2713.7318
2874		2713.9696	I thought I was grown.	2714.8929
2876		2714.9722	Okay.	2715.2939
2878		2716.1472	But um,	2716.8500
2880		2717.8480	so that's where I got my- my- my real	2719.6432
2882		2720.1515	real	2720.6551
2884		2721.0141	solid DC	2722.2964
2886		2722.6077	knowledge from	2723.4190
2888		2724.0112	was from being in r- being in-	2725.3961
2890		2725.5406	in /RD-WORK-6/.	2726.4825
2891	DCB_int_01	2726.8463	Mm-hm.	2727.1633
2893		2727.8756	Did you- Okay, so that's the other-	2729.8154
2895		2731.8391	One thing you said	2732.5572
2897		2732.6970	way back- And I wanted to go back to when we were talking about U Street	2735.6895
2899		2735.7967	and the riots,	2736.7526
2901		2737.1490	do you r- I know you were really young	2738.6877
2903		2738.9302	when they [happened],	2739.6489
2904	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2739.4944	[Mm-hm.]	2739.8395
2905	DCB_int_01	2740.4818	like,	2740.7382
2907		2741.3864	kid kid.	2741.9506
2908	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2742.1604	Yeah.	2742.3703
2909	DCB_int_01	2742.4542	So do you remember- Do you have any	2744.1655
2911		2744.6877	reco- um,	2745.3732
2913		2745.5830	<ts>	2745.6716
2915		2746.0679	recollection through like, your own eyes, not what your mom told you or your dad or your sister but like,	2750.9442
2917		2751.4664	how you felt in that	2752.6695
2919		2753.0600	time?	2753.3910
2920	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2753.5822	No.	2753.8294
2921	DCB_int_01	2754.1511	No?	2754.3330
2922	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2754.2723	I really don't have any.	2755.2935
2923		2756.3054	Mm-mm. Because	2757.3825
2925		2758.1612	um,	2758.6612
2927		2758.9341	that was a-	2759.3444
2929		2759.6382	a time of	2760.3516
2931		2761.5873	discrimination and-	2763.2706
2933		2763.3872	and the-	2764.0306
2935		2764.4118	The Black Panther Party, and I heard about it all.	2766.8645
2936	DCB_int_01	2767.0324	Mm-hm.	2767.3821
2937	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2767.9277	Um,	2768.3193
2939		2768.4686	we talked about it in school even, a little.	2770.3151
2941		2771.3491	Uh, cause I had-	2771.9459
2943		2772.2024	Especially when I was in high school, Miss /RD-NAME-2/.	2774.0862
2945		2774.2028	Uh, I'll never forget her, tenth grade.	2775.6716
2947		2776.1099	She was	2776.5389
2949		2776.8595	sh-	2777.1253
2951		2777.3258	you know, /short bush/	2778.5055
2953		2778.5801	tall,	2779.0091
2955		2779.4847	real	2779.8297
2957		2779.9510	dark chocolate woman,	2781.3965
2959		2781.8814	and she was	2782.3419
2961		2782.5144	straightly power to the people	2783.9739
2962	DCB_int_01	2784.1185	Mm-hm.	2784.3656
2963	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2784.4215	kind of rebel.	2785.1117
2965		2785.8670	Um,	2786.2444
2967		2786.8742	I learned from that,	2787.9141
2969		2788.3372	but	2788.6869
2971		2788.8035	first hand seeing it myself?	2790.2817
2972	DCB_int_01	2790.5140	Mm-hm.	2790.9864
2973	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2791.3401	No.	2791.5406
2975		2792.4779	Never s-	2793.0281
2977		2793.1447	never-	2793.6902
2979		2794.5844	Really didn't understand	2795.9926
2981		2796.4495	the whole racists or any of-	2798.0909
2983		2798.3333	didn't understand-	2798.9442
2985		2799.2379	I-	2799.4011
2987		2800.3186	Let me not say I didn't understand it.	2801.7454
2989		2801.8853	I never had any	2803.1536
2991		2803.2515	encounters o-	2804.1328
2993		2804.2587	with it	2804.5525
2995		2804.8975	at all.	2805.1773
2996	DCB_int_01	2805.3125	Okay.	2805.6063
2997	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2805.9875	No.	2806.2731
2998	DCB_int_01	2807.0786	[Um-]	2807.7035
2999	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2807.4330	[I was] fortunate.	2808.1185
3000	DCB_int_01	2809.8950	Especially in the	2810.5572
3002		2810.6924	thick of the city	2811.5037
3003	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2811.6716	Yeah.	2811.9047
3004	DCB_int_01	2811.9234	with the [marches] and-	2813.2838
3005	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2812.3512	[Yeah.]	2812.7009
3006	DCB_int_01	2814.0578	and this being the political capital.	2816.3520
3007	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2816.5059	Yeah.	2816.8090
3009		2817.0934	Yeah,	2817.2799
3011		2817.3452	I didn't- You know, whatever you saw on television,	2819.3491
3012	DCB_int_01	2819.6055	That's what you saw.	2820.1884
3013	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2820.5101	that's what I saw.	2821.1443
3015		2821.4101	I didn't have to actually live it	2823.0841
3017		2823.2006	or experience any of it.	2824.6508
3019		2825.8294	I would have to say the-	2826.8086
3021		2827.0231	the- the-	2827.4474
3023		2827.5919	the largest discrimination that I experienced	2830.6636
3025		2831.0693	if- if we had to put it in a category was	2833.0557
3027		2834.2494	some of the kids	2835.3219
3029		2835.4897	um,	2835.7462
3031		2836.2498	that /were/ hang out at the- at the Center,	2838.3563
3033		2838.7106	at /RD-SCHOOL-2/ Junior,	2839.4940
3035		2840.4452	lived in low income housing,	2842.1239
3037		2842.8315	projects if you will.	2843.8247
3039		2845.1303	And because I didn't come from that background,	2847.0561
3041		2847.9420	there was always a thing where I thought I w-	2849.8433
3043		2850.0065	You know, people say, Oh you think you cute,	2851.4474
3045		2851.7551	cause-	2852.1142
3047		2852.6038	You know	2852.8183
3049		2852.9349	cause I wasn't from the projects. I wasn't from the hood.	2854.7989
3050	DCB_int_01	2855.1952	Mm-hm.	2855.5636
3051	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2855.7454	I wasn't!	2856.2164
3052	DCB_int_01	2856.7153	Right.	2856.9531
3053		2856.9531	\<l	2888.1795
3054	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2857.0557	Um,	2857.6619
3056		2858.1608	couple of girls tried to jump me	2859.5270
3058		2859.6716	couple of times.	2860.4445
3060		2861.4377	Uh, I can still stand here at fifty five and say I've never been in a fight	2864.9069
3062		2864.9908	a day in my life	2865.8395
3064		2866.6590	um, because I wasn't taught to fight. I was taught	2868.9345
3066		2869.1163	I can talk my way-	2870.0209
3068		2870.5898	I'm gonna talk my way out of this.	2871.8674
3070		2871.9887	I'm not-	2872.3617
3072		2872.4864	You not gonna hit me.	2873.4004
3074		2873.9646	I'm not gon-	2874.3283
3076		2874.7246	You know and this is on the streets. I'm not gonna fight you. First of all, we in your c- I'm not- I got enough sense to realize	2879.0040
3078		2879.5776	this is your community,	2880.7526
3080		2881.2329	this is your environment.	2882.3427
3082		2883.0747	These are your people.	2883.9967
3084		2884.5750	I'm an outsider.	2885.3957
3086		2885.9506	Why would I try fighting you?	2887.0697
3088		2887.2749	That makes no sense.	2888.1795
3089	DCB_int_01	2888.1795	Mm-hm.	2888.7647
3090	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2888.9722	And I'm gonna get beat up cause I don't know how to fight!	2890.7755
3091	DCB_int_01	2890.7569	[<laugh>]	2893.8924
3092	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2890.9760	[<laugh>]	2894.1888
3093		2894.4825	So	2894.8183
3095		2894.9768	that was dumb.	2895.5923
3097		2896.0400	So no,	2896.4503
3099		2896.6077	I don't have-	2897.6335
3101		2897.9926	The whole U Street thing,	2899.1909
3103		2899.2888	I-	2899.5919
3105		2899.7365	I really-	2900.5292
3107		2901.1400	Except for driving through.	2902.4736
3108	DCB_int_01	2902.8135	Mm-hm.	2903.3515
3109	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2903.5403	You know,	2904.0578
3111		2904.1837	um,	2904.6640
3113		2906.2914	I think the whole drug	2907.7275
3115		2908.3757	environment	2909.1859
3117		2909.7454	piece	2910.2350
3119		2910.6780	like-	2910.9065
3121		2911.1163	What was his name?	2911.8810
3123		2911.9790	/RD-NAME-2/?	2913.2240
3125		2913.3219	Or something like that.	2914.3384
3127		2914.6916	He was a big- a young, drug-	2916.0485
3129		2916.2024	big	2916.3889
3131		2916.4728	drug dealer in- in- in like	2917.9696
3133		2918.1328	maybe the	2918.4919
3135		2919.3405	seventies, eighties something [like that.]	2921.4936
3136	DCB_int_01	2921.0078	[Mm.]	2921.4936
3137	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2921.7081	<ts>	2921.8014
3139		2924.0302	Um,	2924.6831
3141		2925.4757	my parents kept me away from stuff like that.	2927.5496
3142	DCB_int_01	2928.2817	Mm.	2928.5801
3143	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2928.6407	That's really the only way I can think of it.	2929.8997
3145		2930.4686	They kept me in engaged in sports. They kept me engaged in dancing.	2933.8667
3147		2934.4355	They kept m- me structured so that I did not have to experience.	2938.3430
3149		2939.1719	You know, and my dad	2940.1931
3151		2940.3283	and my mom /of all-/ you know, right there.	2942.2960
3153		2942.5805	So like I said if I needed s-	2943.8301
3155		2943.9467	to be somewhere, or needed to go somewhere,	2945.5496
3157		2945.9599	my dad drove me. He took me. He didn't l-	2947.8670
3159		2948.3054	I didn't-	2948.5945
3161		2949.0654	Only occasionally were I- was I really allowed to ride the bus	2952.1371
3163		2952.5614	places.	2953.1350
3165		2953.4940	Saturday mornings if I had to go to dancing school,	2955.5504
3167		2956.1274	some Saturdays I would ride the bus,	2957.9040
3169		2958.1138	but	2958.6267
3171		2958.7573	other than that,	2959.4474
3173		2960.9022	they were there to pick me up and bring me home.	2962.4923
3174	DCB_int_01	2963.5344	Mm.	2963.8200
3175	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2963.8200	You know, so	2964.6640
3176		2964.7526	I didn't get a chance to just	2965.7458
3178		2966.0396	venture and wander.	2967.0794
3180		2967.3172	You know, um,	2968.0539
3182		2968.3477	Like if the kids in the neighborhood were going to the movies,	2970.4397
3184		2970.8972	somebody's mother was taking us.	2972.1935
3185	DCB_int_01	2972.6038	Mm-hm.	2973.0188
3186	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2973.6529	Um,	2974.2207
3188		2975.5123	and I didn't do that often.	2976.5661
3190		2977.4054	I didn't get a chance to go and s- like, if I, you know,	2979.5877
3192		2979.6902	going to /RD-SCHOOL-2/ High School, you know, that's kind of-	2981.4237
3194		2982.0485	kids are spread out all over coming to a school.	2984.0302
3196		2984.5665	If I had friends and they wanted to do sleepovers and things like that, my	2987.8247
3198		2988.0299	parents- No, my father's like, No, you're not sleeping at nobody else's house.	2990.9582
3200		2991.0607	No.	2991.2986
3202		2991.6576	They can come here, but no you not- And if they had brothers, oh no, that wasn't happening.	2995.0904
3203	DCB_int_01	2995.4381	Oh.	2995.7924
3205		2995.9183	Mm.	2996.4452
3206	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	2996.5338	That's not happening.	2997.3219
3208		2998.4678	And if they didn't live in	2999.8760
3210		2999.9832	a	3000.3516
3212		3001.3541	neighborhood community	3003.0374
3214		3003.7182	with	3003.9793
3216		3004.4864	structures similar to ours,	3006.1371
3218		3007.0137	and you had maybe five or six brothers and sisters or just	3009.8115
3220		3010.0073	five or six sisters,	3010.8921
3222		3011.4563	my father wouldn't allow that.	3012.7200
3224		3013.8204	He-	3013.9883
3226		3014.3007	no, my- my dad was-	3015.8441
3228		3016.3232	My version of my dad, he was bougie.	3017.8060
3229	DCB_int_01	3018.4622	<laugh>	3019.2282
3230	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3019.2282	<laugh>	3019.3495
3231		3019.6292	My father was bougie.	3020.4779
3233		3021.3545	He-	3021.6809
3235		3022.3570	but it wasn't-	3023.0833
3237		3023.2838	it wasn't-	3023.9413
3239		3025.3728	it wasn't in a sense-	3026.6924
3241		3028.6217	Yeah he was just bougie.	3029.4577
3243		3029.7314	He thought	3030.2257
3245		3031.0697	he was making a better life for us [so that we had better.]	3033.3592
3246	DCB_int_01	3032.5906	[Mm.]	3033.3592
3247		3033.7089	Mm.	3033.9662
3248	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3035.3398	So	3036.3936
3250		3037.3355	what as I would look at now, saying, Okay, well yeah you can go hang out with your friends and just	3041.8713
3252		3042.0112	be back home at a certain time,	3043.2282
3254		3044.5618	no.	3044.9302
3256		3045.4198	My- my dad didn't-	3046.6651
3258		3047.9180	And then I r- Like I said, I-	3049.4101
3260		3049.6153	I learned very early that	3050.9395
3262		3051.2706	there was certain things I didn't think he was gonna allow me to do,	3054.0205
3264		3054.4309	so as not to get disappointed,	3056.1515
3266		3056.4919	I didn't ask to go do 'em.	3057.3312
3268		3058.8455	So I c- probably	3059.5309
3270		3060.2024	caused some of my	3061.1023
3272		3062.1701	structured [and]	3063.5877
3273	DCB_int_01	3063.3042	[<laugh>]	3065.3389
3274	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3064.1659	[sheltered]	3064.8233
3275		3065.6149	naive life. <laugh>	3067.7505
3277		3068.8276	Yeah.	3069.0841
3279		3069.4058	That's how you can look at it. It was	3070.3943
3281		3070.6123	pretty [naive.]	3071.2698
3282	DCB_int_01	3070.9437	[Kind of structured, naive.]	3072.3889
3283	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3072.2583	[Naive], yeah.	3072.9158
3284		3073.0137	Mm-hm.	3073.3541
3285	DCB_int_01	3074.5665	Okay, we're gonna switch it up a little bit.	3076.3524
3286	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3076.5144	Okay.	3076.7429
3287	DCB_int_01	3076.7289	I'm'a ask you-	3077.4004
3288		3078.0532	This has nothing to do with anything, just	3080.0256
3290		3080.2074	wanna know.	3080.6131
3292		3081.0001	What's your favorite book or movie and why?	3082.8187
3293	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3084.7293	<sigh>	3086.3100
3295		3089.4423	Okay, so,	3090.6827
3297		3091.5267	<ts>	3091.6339
3299		3092.4686	my favorite movie-	3094.2171
3301		3095.4330	Mm.	3095.6895
3303		3095.9180	I have-	3096.1837
3305		3097.1396	I have two.	3097.6945
3306	DCB_int_01	3097.9277	I'll let you have two.	3098.8136
3307	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3098.9628	I have two.	3099.4431
3309		3101.7641	I love The Color Purple.	3102.8319
3311		3104.0862	<ts>	3104.1655
3313		3104.3800	I mean, that- that's-	3105.2706
3315		3105.3545	that's my ultimate.	3106.2078
3317		3107.0973	Actually,	3107.5030
3319		3109.9323	okay I have three.	3110.7204
3321		3111.1214	But The Color Purple [is one o- it's my favorite-]	3113.0320
3322	DCB_int_01	3112.0296	[<laugh>]	3113.5776
3323	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3113.5776	<laugh> It was my favorite	3114.5288
3324		3114.7806	book	3115.0371
3326		3115.1536	to read.	3115.5220
3327	DCB_int_01	3115.8932	Mm-hm.	3116.4592
3328	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3116.6691	Um,	3117.2053
3329	DCB_int_01	3117.3685	The book is good.	3118.1286
3330	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3118.6077	<ts>	3118.7103
3332		3119.1019	I-	3119.3444
3334		3119.8667	the movie was good,	3120.7946
3336		3121.1210	but I always have to say- I'll use that	3122.5141
3338		3122.6120	with the book.	3123.0689
3340		3123.8943	Um,	3124.3454
3342		3124.5319	Roots	3125.0029
3344		3125.5997	was one of my favorite movies,	3126.8261
3346		3127.8659	and the reason being- It gave me	3129.6891
3348		3130.1356	a lot of history.	3131.1381
3350		3132.1220	Uh, ga- It gave me a lot of	3134.0151
3352		3134.1037	um,	3134.6399
3354		3134.8218	information	3135.5446
3356		3135.8698	that they don't	3136.3781
3358		3136.4853	teach you in school.	3137.4459
3359	DCB_int_01	3137.5547	Mm.	3137.9102
3360	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3138.8914	You know, the- it-	3139.6048
3362		3139.7027	it gave me	3140.4954
3364		3141.0083	my heritage	3141.8849
3366		3143.0402	from a different perspective.	3144.0987
3367	DCB_int_01	3144.6189	Mm-hm.	3145.0352
3368	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3145.4836	Um, not just,	3146.5793
3370		3146.9477	Okay, so you know,	3148.2300
3372		3149.1941	you came over on a ship, and you were this and you were that, but it gave-	3152.3695
3374		3152.8451	It- it	3153.2461
3376		3153.3394	opened up your mind. It made you think.	3155.5671
3378		3156.3085	It didn't change how I felt about people,	3158.3555
3379	DCB_int_01	3158.6911	Mm-hm.	3159.0456
3380	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3159.0456	but it just gave me a different perspective	3161.0398
3381		3161.2314	t- to see people	3162.4064
3383		3163.7820	for what they are and who they are	3165.1948
3385		3165.8185	and we were tricked or how	3167.7629
3387		3168.2992	we were	3168.9566
3389		3169.7027	judged	3170.3187
3391		3170.7892	or how we were treated.	3172.2953
3393		3173.2081	Um,	3173.7629
3395		3176.2250	and it wasn't necessarily because we did anything wrong,	3178.4527
3397		3179.7816	you know.	3180.0987
3399		3180.8634	Um, my other favorite movie which is	3182.5141
3401		3183.1902	way off the cuff is Pretty Woman.	3185.0728
3402	DCB_int_01	3187.0519	/Yes Mm-hm/,	3187.9312
3403	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3187.9918	[Yeah.]	3188.3089
3404	DCB_int_01	3188.0011	[a different-] a different-	3189.0876
3405	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3189.0689	Totally different.	3189.7824
3406	DCB_int_01	3190.1880	Why?	3190.4865
3407	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3191.3759	Pretty Woman	3192.0940
3409		3192.2432	actually it's my daughter and mine-	3193.4929
3411		3193.5628	We- we- We'll always watch it, and we still do to this day if it comes on, we'll sit and watch it together.	3197.6231
3413		3198.7888	Pretty Woman was	3199.8659
3415		3200.2016	to me	3200.8824
3417		3201.9071	a movie of someone who didn't have-	3204.7655
3419		3206.3975	It was a white lady who didn't have everything in life.	3208.8038
3421		3209.7303	She had a rough life.	3210.9566
3423		3212.0571	She was on the streets.	3213.0456
3425		3214.3734	Um, she was prostituting.	3215.7863
3427		3216.2199	It wasn't cause she wanted to but it was t- for survival.	3218.4208
3429		3219.7264	But she turned that around, and she still had a dream.	3222.7048
3431		3223.1198	She still had something in her	3225.0969
3433		3225.4373	that someone with	3226.1962
3435		3226.2988	all the money in the world	3227.3946
3437		3227.6790	could see some good in her,	3229.2877
3439		3230.0897	and it just turned to be like a positive thing.	3232.3372
3441		3233.1614	And he took her out of	3235.0452
3443		3236.0198	the elements that she had	3237.1575
3445		3238.4620	become,	3238.8863
3446	DCB_int_01	3239.2081	Mm-hm.	3239.5484
3447	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3240.4577	and gave her-	3241.0266
3449		3241.1432	and gave her the opportunity to have a dream world.	3242.8032
3451		3243.3814	It gives you opportunity to see,	3244.6578
3453		3244.9936	okay, you may be down here and you may be down and out and you maybe just	3248.2762
3455		3249.1902	at your lowest of your lowest,	3250.5926
3456	DCB_int_01	3250.8354	Right.	3251.1441
3457	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3251.3153	but if you persevere,	3252.3132
3459		3253.3903	don't think less of yourself.	3255.0410
3461		3255.5352	Just because he has money and he has stature and he has power,	3258.7095
3463		3259.7074	why would you think that you could not	3261.3394
3465		3262.7884	engage conversation or	3264.4670
3467		3265.5255	develop a relationship?	3266.8125
3468	DCB_int_01	3267.4674	Mm.	3267.8837
3469	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3267.9910	And they-	3268.3967
3471		3268.5926	And he-	3269.0961
3473		3269.4039	She taught him so much about-	3270.9380
3475		3271.2131	Because he s- felt as though he was so	3272.9757
3477		3273.0596	high up,	3273.6133
3479		3273.7859	so high and mighty.	3274.7604
3481		3275.8748	But	3276.2805
3483		3276.4530	it was more so	3277.3716
3485		3278.2902	he	3278.5514
3487		3279.2694	did not necessarily come down to her level	3281.7490
3489		3282.0241	because she really had education and she had knowledge,	3284.5420
3491		3284.7519	she just fell on hard times,	3286.0808
3493		3286.3454	but it was a thing where-	3287.2920
3495		3287.4972	It shows that	3288.3365
3497		3288.6069	because you have all these things	3290.6446
3498	DCB_int_01	3290.8731	Mm-hm.	3291.2368
3499	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3291.8232	and all this position,	3292.9469
3501		3293.4785	you're not better than.	3294.5005
3502	DCB_int_01	3294.9147	Right.	3295.1571
3503	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3295.4462	Because now you're not really taking time to	3297.6658
3505		3298.0610	just walk barefoot in the grass.	3299.7536
3506	DCB_int_01	3300.5090	Mm-hm.	3300.9100
3507	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3300.9986	And my favorite line it is,	3302.1876
3509		3302.4394	Lay like broccoli. I use it all the time.	3304.3559
3511		3304.5926	You just wanna just be. You just exist.	3306.5323
3513		3306.7421	You just wanna lay like broccoli.	3307.9359
3515		3308.4394	I-	3308.5887
3517		3308.8218	And that's one of the reasons I love that movie because it just-	3310.8630
3519		3311.2500	It brings two different environments, two different	3313.5022
3521		3314.4767	um,	3314.9151
3523		3316.1356	background- people of backgrounds,	3317.6137
3525		3318.1173	and it brings them together,	3319.3360
3527		3320.9850	and they fall in love with each other.	3322.2067
3528	DCB_int_01	3322.3028	Right.	3322.7098
3529	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3323.3293	It was unconditional.	3324.2246
3531		3324.6815	I didn't judge you cause of who you were. You didn't judge me cause-	3327.1342
3533		3327.4326	And I love that	3328.2067
3535		3328.5832	because I look at that's how people really should be.	3330.4624
3537		3330.7981	Why- why- why would you judge somebody because of their background?	3333.2508
3538	DCB_int_01	3333.7299	Mm-hm.	3334.1356
3539	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3334.3035	Learn who they are.	3335.2827
3541		3335.7443	Learn to- Learn what it is about them that	3337.8752
3543		3338.3648	you can learn from.	3339.6040
3545		3340.8723	And that turns into a great experience,	3342.3971
3547		3342.6769	so that's why I love that one.	3343.5535
3548	DCB_int_01	3343.7960	And that's your favorite.	3344.5940
3549	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3344.9524	Yeah.	3345.2834
3550	DCB_int_01	3345.3953	One of the-	3345.8885
3551	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3346.3874	One [of 'em.]	3346.7837
3552	DCB_int_01	3346.5832	[two]	3346.8817
3553		3347.2687	[slash] three.	3347.9401
3554	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3347.2780	[Or three.]	3347.7256
3555		3348.0427	[<laugh>]	3348.8121
3556	DCB_int_01	3348.3598	[Right.]	3348.5696
3558		3348.6815	[Depends] on how we [/categorize them/.]	3349.9825
3559	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3349.5721	[Yeah yeah] yeah.	3350.2343
3560	DCB_int_01	3350.4068	Alright. There are some things that are unique to DC.	3353.0215
3562		3353.3479	Hello sir.	3354.2712
3564		3355.9172	Hi.	3356.4161
3565	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3356.7565	Lay down (whispering).	3357.2928
3566	DCB_int_01	3357.3942	Um,	3357.8325
3567	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3358.7371	Lay down (whispering).	3359.2314
3568	DCB_int_01	3359.4972	so-	3360.0241
3569	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3364.0610	He's sleepy.	3364.8117
3570	DCB_int_01	3365.0076	He is.	3365.5624
3572		3369.1482	We are.	3369.6378
3574		3370.1356	So	3370.5179
3576		3370.8443	there are two or three things that are unique to DC,	3373.0779
3578		3373.4696	um, and if you could tell me about your experience with them.	3376.4900
3580		3376.7604	One,	3377.1148
3582		3378.3038	um,	3379.1465
3584		3379.8846	go go music.	3380.5933
3585	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3382.4806	<laugh>	3383.5391
3586	DCB_int_01	3384.1639	<laugh>	3384.4717
3587	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3385.5022	<laugh>	3385.9545
3589		3387.9129	Well,	3388.3419
3591		3390.5836	okay, so they tell me	3392.3695
3593		3393.0923	I was around the time when Junk Yard and all that came out.	3396.3456
3595		3397.8752	Um,	3398.4208
3597		3398.7472	at that time I was in the classical music.	3400.5038
3599		3400.7511	[<laugh>]	3402.6762
3600	DCB_int_01	3400.9689	[Oh. Okay. ]	3401.8282
3602		3402.0026	[Mkay.]	3402.3768
3603	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3402.9100	Um,	3403.5395
3605		3404.0804	<ts>	3404.1457
3607		3404.2949	and because I didn't go to go gos,	3405.6891
3608	DCB_int_01	3405.9957	Mm. Mm-hm.	3406.5086
3609	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3406.6019	never been to one.	3407.3619
3610	DCB_int_01	3407.6510	Eleven fifty nine, your dad would come knock on- Right.	3409.7866
3611	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3409.7633	Yeah, I've never been to a go go.	3410.9290
3612		3411.1389	So,	3411.4793
3614		3412.4154	um,	3412.7744
3616		3413.1381	I-	3413.4599
3618		3413.7023	I do know the music	3414.9380
3620		3415.4043	in you know the-	3416.4861
3622		3417.4093	Was it	3417.7357
3624		3417.9491	um, Rare Essence and Junk Yard, and	3420.4670
3626		3421.6607	I can dance to it.	3422.5747
3628		3423.5154	I don't have a clue what they're saying.	3424.7604
3629	DCB_int_01	3424.9691	[<laugh>]	3425.9748
3630	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3424.9702	[<laugh>]	3425.3573
3631		3426.0614	That's	3426.4018
3633		3426.4950	part of my naiveness,	3427.4789
3635		3427.6421	at fifty five I still don't know.	3429.3161
3637		3429.6285	<ts>	3429.7357
3639		3430.0610	I think at this point it's best that I don't know.	3431.9588
3641		3432.6722	Um,	3433.1758
3643		3435.9537	you know like the kids with the buckets and they beating on the bottom of the paint-	3439.0919
3645		3439.3110	Is it a paint pail?	3440.3508
3647		3440.8358	Paint bucket?	3441.4047
3648	DCB_int_01	3441.6740	Trash	3442.1869
3650		3442.3687	[group /or something/.]	3443.0822
3651	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3442.4900	[And a trash can?] Uh-huh. Yeah.	3443.9634
3652		3444.5137	So I kind of- I grew up during that time but I didn't listen to that type of music.	3448.3268
3653	DCB_int_01	3449.2454	Hm.	3449.5027
3654	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3449.9215	I was l- You know, the Yellowjackets, and I was listening to	3453.7311
3656		3454.3035	um, Queen,	3455.1521
3658		3455.6464	<laugh>	3455.8049
3660		3456.5510	and I was into classical music during that time where everybody else was listening to	3459.6705
3662		3460.4154	go go.	3460.6858
3664		3462.3085	<ts>	3462.4251
3666		3462.9240	Because I was dancing,	3463.7913
3668		3463.9545	and	3464.3928
3670		3465.9316	I went into-	3466.8350
3672		3467.2034	From age	3467.8142
3674		3467.9681	fifteen to about nineteen I went into this classical thing, and I just-	3471.8616
3676		3472.3221	You know, um, Beethoven and Bach and	3474.7701
3678		3475.3810	um,	3475.9125
3680		3477.1296	I got	3477.5725
3682		3477.7486	into that. I don't-	3478.5786
3684		3478.7091	can't	3478.9236
3686		3479.0775	tell you why,	3479.4972
3688		3479.6370	so I don't really know.	3480.4204
3690		3480.8680	Now as I've gotten older,	3481.8846
3691	DCB_int_01	3481.9176	Mm-hm.	3482.5489
3692	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3483.3161	I can appreciate	3484.0668
3694		3484.1962	the go go music	3484.9936
3696		3485.8842	and where it came from and Chuck.	3487.2597
3698		3488.1084	You know, um,	3489.1342
3700		3490.8024	but	3491.8515
3702		3492.4297	can't say it's a favorite.	3493.5395
3703	DCB_int_01	3494.3229	Mm.	3494.5141
3705		3495.6926	[What about] hand dancing?	3497.1101
3706	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3495.7019	[You know.]	3495.9491
3707		3497.8655	Okay, so at age sixteen, my sister taught me how to hand dance by holding on to the door seal of the kitchen.	3504.0007
3709		3504.7934	Uh-huh.	3505.1711
3711		3505.3483	Uh-huh.	3505.6607
3713		3505.8333	I didn't have a choice but to learn how to hand dance.	3507.7684
3715		3508.4387	Didn't have a choice.	3509.1381
3717		3509.7769	Yeah.	3509.9914
3719		3510.9706	Um,	3511.5955
3721		3512.6166	<ts>	3512.7239
3723		3514.3967	and	3515.1381
3725		3515.9914	I've been doing it ever since.	3517.2131
3727		3517.6094	I love it.	3518.1224
3729		3518.6679	I- Now I can go to a-	3519.8103
3731		3520.0890	You know, we can go out hand dancing, or	3521.7070
3733		3522.0847	go to the- s-	3522.5743
3735		3522.8634	See and that's the thing. Because there's twelve years between us,	3525.0689
3737		3525.8663	by the time I was turn eighteen, and I was able to actually legally go out	3529.1991
3739		3529.3203	with her,	3529.7307
3741		3530.6446	um,	3531.2508
3743		3534.2059	the majority of my friends in my early twenties	3536.7052
3745		3537.0736	that I would consider friends,	3538.2207
3747		3539.0262	were my sister's friends.	3540.0800
3748	DCB_int_01	3540.6209	Mm-mm.	3540.9893
3749	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3541.5162	Because that's when she and I got really really close. I mean we were	3544.0062
3751		3544.3128	thicker than thieves,	3545.0122
3753		3545.4039	closer than close.	3546.2292
3755		3547.3203	Um, and it wasn't	3548.2623
3757		3548.4115	out of	3548.7938
3759		3549.6984	because she had to take me, it was- At this point she enjoyed	3552.1266
3761		3552.9753	us-	3553.2691
3763		3553.4183	you know, my company.	3554.1550
3765		3554.9710	And so we would hang out together,	3556.5972
3767		3556.6998	and so	3557.1381
3769		3558.0427	I got into a oldies-	3559.4556
3771		3560.1084	m-	3560.3182
3773		3560.7519	More so I would always be the youngest one in the-	3562.6811
3775		3562.8583	You know, whenever she would go out, I'd be the youngest one in the group.	3565.3437
3777		3565.9312	But she would allow me to go along,	3567.1296
3779		3567.5819	you know.	3567.8430
3781		3568.4760	Um,	3568.9563
3783		3569.4785	so	3569.9122
3785		3570.2246	hand dancing and	3571.1851
3787		3571.4696	the bop and	3572.7285
3789		3573.4047	like all of the	3574.0715
3791		3574.1869	n-	3574.2708
3793		3574.4247	most of the music, I know it all.	3576.1453
3795		3577.0732	One I had to hear it and listen to it all the time, but	3579.3627
3797		3579.7217	I learned appreciation for it.	3581.0262
3799		3581.2687	I can say now I have a better appreciation for	3583.7493
3801		3584.4441	music from the sixties and seventies,	3587.1810
3803		3587.9961	then I do from go go music.	3590.0757
3805		3591.0223	I just don't understand it,	3592.1088
3807		3592.3687	and	3592.6718
3809		3592.9003	I didn't take the time to	3593.8702
3810	DCB_int_01	3594.7561	[What is hand] dancing like, or bop?	3597.0456
3811	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3594.7608	[really learn it.]	3595.3577
3812		3597.6973	Ha-	3598.0097
3813	DCB_int_01	3598.0097	How do you describe it?	3598.9164
3814	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3603.1762	<ts>	3603.2741
3816		3603.9817	Hand dancing	3605.2733
3818		3607.4975	is- I guess you can equate to a two step-	3610.4620
3820		3611.2267	Of course there's more, but	3612.2665
3822		3612.5883	to a two step	3613.4276
3824		3613.9032	with a male and a female.	3615.3627
3826		3616.9050	Um,	3617.7210
3828		3618.7468	there's no grinding.	3619.6607
3830		3620.4161	<laugh>	3620.7938
3832		3621.9222	There's no	3622.5273
3834		3623.0122	lot of body	3623.7863
3836		3623.9122	touching.	3624.4857
3837	DCB_int_01	3624.5137	Mm-hm.	3624.9007
3838	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3625.9359	It's good	3626.4814
3840		3626.8078	clean	3627.3720
3842		3628.4527	dancing.	3628.9190
3844		3629.7816	I've never had- No one's ever r- asked me that before,	3631.8519
3846		3632.4021	um,	3632.7892
3848		3633.0643	so I	3633.6123
3850		3633.8372	never really had a perspective on that.	3635.4225
3852		3635.7769	I just look at it as	3637.0033
3854		3637.1711	uh-	3637.6794
3856		3639.2088	It's-	3639.4699
3858		3639.9351	It's a learned skilled	3641.6837
3860		3642.1593	dance	3642.7282
3862		3644.3042	um,	3644.7425
3864		3646.1729	that you can actually put your own flavor to.	3648.3551
3866		3649.4043	You know, you can make it	3650.4721
3868		3651.1762	what you want it to be,	3652.2393
3869	DCB_int_01	3652.6345	Mm.	3652.8863
3870	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3652.9656	but there basic steps. It's structured.	3654.8541
3872		3655.3110	It is a structured dance,	3656.4674
3874		3656.7379	but you can put your own little flavor to it. I guess I could say it that way.	3659.4182
3876		3659.7956	Bop is the same thing as hand dancing, it's just a slower version.	3662.5716
3878		3662.7798	It's slower.	3663.3151
3880		3664.4573	Um, it's not like-	3665.3246
3882		3665.8002	I guess back in our day we used to call it slow dragging.	3667.7096
3883	DCB_int_01	3668.3369	Mm-hm.	3668.8035
3884	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3668.9710	Yeah.	3669.2135
3886		3670.0843	So it's not	3670.5552
3888		3670.7138	that slow,	3671.2966
3890		3671.6464	but it's a slower version,	3672.8960
3892		3673.5022	and it's a flow. It- It-	3674.7239
3894		3674.8871	It has rhythm. It just-	3676.2118
3896		3676.7185	It's not like you just all over the place, all wild and just doing whatever,	3679.6188
3897	DCB_int_01	3679.9638	Mm-hm.	3680.3275
3898	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3680.5887	it	3680.8218
3900		3680.9850	is-	3681.6005
3902		3682.7697	It's like somebody s-	3683.5951
3904		3683.7443	Whoever started it has maintained	3685.7960
3906		3686.1130	through the years.	3686.9943
3908		3687.2788	It hasn't changed.	3688.3372
3910		3689.0262	I don't care how much	3689.6184
3912		3690.0800	little extra you try to put on it,	3691.3157
3914		3691.5861	the basic step	3692.4534
3916		3692.8731	is	3693.1855
3918		3693.4082	the same,	3693.8197
3920		3694.1776	so I guess it's-	3695.2500
3922		3695.6417	it's um-	3696.9380
3924		3699.6506	I don't know. I think it's-	3700.3454
3926		3700.4667	it-	3700.5552
3928		3700.9516	It's good exercise.	3701.8748
3929	DCB_int_01	3702.2199	[Mm-hm.]	3702.6426
3930	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3702.3738	[I think] it's	3703.3437
3931		3703.8193	um,	3704.4814
3933		3705.5119	I think it's a-	3706.0761
3935		3706.2568	It's a s-	3706.6392
3937		3706.8210	It's a dance that will probably	3708.6489
3939		3709.0872	last a long time.	3710.2623
3941		3711.3895	I think they'll be doing it for years to come.	3713.0574
3943		3714.4018	You know, I know the kids nowadays-	3715.7726
3945		3716.4954	You kn-	3716.7425
3947		3716.9664	Because	3717.2555
3949		3717.3720	if you think about it,	3718.1694
3951		3718.7558	my generation didn't really do it a lot.	3720.6769
3953		3721.0126	I learned it from my sister's generation.	3722.6539
3954	DCB_int_01	3722.9104	Right.	3723.1715
3955	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3723.5306	The generation that's	3724.4154
3957		3725.0402	after m- me,	3725.8375
3959		3725.9868	so like,	3726.3225
3961		3726.4857	the persons- people in their thirties and forties- late-	3728.6166
3963		3729.7777	late thirties, early forties	3730.8817
3964	DCB_int_01	3731.2873	Mm.	3731.4599
3965	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3731.6417	they have now taken it	3732.8774
3967		3732.9986	on.	3733.3390
3969		3734.0851	And it's become a thing	3735.2415
3970	DCB_int_01	3735.6192	Right.	3735.8849
3971	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3736.2661	to hand dance now.	3737.2034
3973		3737.6044	But if you sit and you watch	3738.8587
3975		3738.9566	them do it,	3739.6468
3977		3740.6912	and you watch seasoned	3742.2720
3979		3743.6510	couples do it,	3744.3971
3981		3744.9147	you can see the difference.	3746.0991
3982	DCB_int_01	3746.8964	Hm.	3747.1902
3983	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3747.5247	They're doing the basic same steps,	3749.3153
3985		3750.8121	but the younger generation, they flipping and flopping. They're doing everything but flipping you over your back and twirling you around,	3755.6930
3987		3755.9728	and all they doing a lot of turns and things like that,	3758.0431
3989		3758.3648	where you can actually see the steps	3760.4305
3991		3760.7697	of a seasoned person.	3761.9697
3993		3762.7095	Just like there's a difference in hand dancing in Northeast	3765.0130
3995		3765.4420	and Southeast,	3766.2906
3996	DCB_int_01	3767.4645	Mm.	3767.6930
3997	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3767.6837	and they're- they're different versions.	3769.1152
3998		3770.3182	Um,	3770.8591
4000		3772.3081	Northeast	3772.9376
4002		3773.1801	hand dance,	3773.9028
4004		3774.0707	they have a stomp in the middle of it,	3775.4276
4006		3775.7773	some kind of the way they do a stomp.	3777.1389
4008		3777.3755	It's the same steps, but they put a stomp in	3779.6091
4010		3779.9448	in one of their steps.	3780.8727
4012		3781.2970	Southeast don't d-	3782.0804
4014		3782.2623	Southeast people	3783.4595
4016		3783.5714	didn't do that.	3784.2475
4018		3784.8490	And I learned that just from being around my sister and her friends.	3787.2551
4020		3787.8193	And you can always tell like,	3788.8358
4022		3789.2788	um,	3789.5154
4024		3790.4247	the Eclipse	3791.2127
4026		3791.9961	versus the Chateau,	3793.0359
4028		3794.2669	they don't dance the same.	3795.3534
4030		3795.9910	It's the same dance,	3796.9936
4032		3797.3852	but they don't dance it the same way.	3798.9287
4034		3799.9685	And you can see the difference.	3801.1342
4036		3801.9864	And I don't know that it's a generational thing or it's just a geographical thing.	3805.6421
4038		3807.1902	[That's-]	3807.3907
4039	DCB_int_01	3807.1948	[But even neighborhoods have [different]	3808.8707
4040	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3808.7791	[Neighborhoods] [have different-]	3810.1360
4041	DCB_int_01	3809.3852	[the same thing.]	3810.3411
4042	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3810.5650	Mm-hm.	3810.9287
4044		3811.5348	Mm-hm.	3811.7447
4046		3812.8125	It's like um,	3813.9456
4048		3814.6765	any nationality that has-	3816.1453
4050		3816.8587	They speak the same language but they all had different dialects.	3819.5352
4051	DCB_int_01	3819.7367	Mm-hm.	3820.1576
4052	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3820.6672	It's the same thing.	3821.4039
4054		3821.9355	It- it- it's exactly the same thing	3823.5022
4056		3824.1270	in my mind.	3824.7239
4057	DCB_int_01	3825.3009	So it's so interesting that you bring it up, because you know I'm very interested in-	3828.4111
4059		3828.9193	in um,	3829.8659
4061		3830.1503	in language, and I know you don't have your glasses so I won't ask you to read for me.	3833.0868
4063		3833.5671	But I do have a question for you.	3835.2178
4064	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3835.2178	Mm-hm.	3835.5115
4065	DCB_int_01	3835.5115	Do you think people in DC talk differently than other places?	3838.5273
4066	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3838.7884	Yes.	3839.1614
4068		3841.6048	And the reason I say that,	3842.6399
4070		3842.8544	majority of the time,	3843.9129
4072		3844.3920	in my experience,	3845.2640
4074		3845.7536	if I go anywhere-	3847.0126
4076		3850.7884	It doesn't really matter where I go.	3852.3971
4078		3853.3670	Most people will s- tell me-	3855.3580
4080		3855.8663	ask me where am I from.	3856.8583
4082		3858.0054	And I'm like, I'm from DC, and they're like,	3859.2457
4084		3859.7214	Are you sure?	3860.3182
4086		3860.5001	Y- Yes, I know where- I was born and raised in [DC.]	3862.6438
4087	DCB_int_01	3862.4760	[<laugh>]	3863.2454
4088	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3864.0427	Uh, I don't split all my verbs and- <laugh>	3866.7425
4090		3867.2461	But	3867.5072
4092		3867.8558	I think it's a stereotype.	3869.0495
4094		3870.1873	I don't	3870.4950
4096		3870.6256	speak with a lot of slang.	3871.8006
4098		3872.8218	Um,	3873.2555
4100		3877.8053	I'm not sure what people expect,	3879.8523
4102		3881.2500	but I get that more so, especially from people	3884.0617
4104		3884.3415	who live	3884.8171
4106		3885.2228	and are from	3885.8663
4108		3886.2848	DC.	3886.7931
4110		3887.1708	They'll ask me,	3887.8189
4112		3888.0101	Where are you from?	3888.8494
4114		3889.8379	And I'm- I was born in Washington DC in Southeast.	3893.1008
4116		3893.5391	And that's-	3893.9728
4118		3894.2759	that stops it right there.	3895.3017
4120		3895.6188	I-	3895.8426
4122		3896.0944	I'm from Southeast.	3897.1482
4124		3897.8978	I'm not someone from /Souffeast/ (atypical pronunciation).	3899.0588
4126		3899.3106	There's a difference.	3900.0660
4128		3900.4437	There's a /Souffeast/ (atypical pronunciation).	3901.2364
4130		3902.7798	And I'm from Southeast. And I've always-	3904.7091
4132		3905.7350	that's- that's-	3906.3225
4134		3907.4509	that's only thing I know.	3908.2669
4135	DCB_int_01	3908.6769	Mm-hm.	3909.2007
4136	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3909.9456	So	3910.8583
4138		3911.6370	I get	3912.1220
4140		3912.2619	the different-	3912.8587
4142		3913.1012	and- and if I'm out of-	3914.1550
4144		3915.3394	If I'm in New York,	3916.2941
4146		3916.7185	and they'll ask, Well where you from? I'm from	3918.2805
4148		3918.6769	DC.	3919.0406
4150		3919.8519	And	3920.0757
4152		3920.5793	I just recently started saying DC in the last maybe ten years. Normally, I'd say, I'm from Washington,	3924.5836
4154		3925.1012	DC.	3925.5115
4156		3926.4255	And then I just	3927.0456
4158		3927.2321	dropped the Washington cause that just sounds so formal,	3929.3895
4160		3929.7909	and I would just say, I'm from DC. And they're like, Well what area? And I say, Southeast. They're like,	3933.1342
4162		3933.4513	Oh you're from /Souffeast/? No, not /Souffeast/, (atypical pronunciation)	3935.5857
4164		3935.8982	Southeast.	3936.5463
4166		3936.7188	There's a difference	3937.6001
4167	DCB_int_01	3937.7112	Mm.	3938.0527
4168	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3938.0711	in my mind.	3938.6306
4170		3939.3953	[Because-]	3939.7404
4171	DCB_int_01	3939.4047	[What's that] difference?	3940.3314
4172	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3941.7210	One block this way from my parents was the projects, Simple City.	3945.1762
4174		3947.7303	<ts>	3947.8422
4176		3949.1711	Two blocks or	3950.0244
4178		3950.5141	a few blocks away was	3951.7124
4180		3951.8523	East Gate	3952.4305
4182		3952.9143	and that whole area.	3953.8422
4184		3955.1338	I wasn't allowed to really hang out or go around there much. I would sneak,	3958.2906
4186		3958.5926	ride my bike, ride through and come back home, but	3960.4857
4188		3960.6909	you wouldn't-	3961.1152
4190		3961.7120	You could never catch me there.	3962.8964
4192		3963.4233	You know, I-	3963.9036
4194		3964.3874	And it was only in the daytime,	3965.5158
4196		3965.6277	truly.	3966.0940
4198		3968.2996	But it was a difference-	3969.4187
4200		3969.6145	the- the-	3970.0854
4202		3970.4200	the	3970.5832
4204		3970.8537	two block radius	3971.9588
4206		3972.2059	that I grew up in	3972.9660
4207	DCB_int_01	3973.3670	Mm-hm.	3973.7447
4208	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3975.4606	everyone was pretty much on the same level.	3977.0682
4210		3978.4484	Um,	3978.8960
4212		3980.0944	I would say	3980.7052
4214		3981.8185	probably educationally,	3983.1941
4216		3984.1406	financially-	3984.9193
4217	DCB_int_01	3985.1352	Mm-hm.	3985.5842
4218	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3985.6468	the structures, it was family structured. Not saying that-	3987.8896
4220		3988.2335	I'm not saying by any means the projects don't have family structures, by m- I'm not saying that at all.	3991.8100
4222		3992.2296	It was just different.	3993.3336
4223	DCB_int_01	3993.4623	Mm-hm.	3993.7392
4224	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	3993.7392	It was just different.	3994.4900
4225		3995.2500	And	3995.8189
4227		3997.5815	I don't believe we were raised to think we were better,	3999.8337
4229		4001.2127	cause I truly don't think I'm-	4002.2059
4231		4003.1105	I'm better cause I choose to be better,	4004.8405
4233		4005.0363	not because of stature or anything like that.	4007.2966
4235		4007.5764	I choose to be better for myself,	4009.1432
4237		4009.7120	but	4009.9452
4239		4010.0991	it was just different growing up.	4012.1554
4240	DCB_int_01	4012.8295	Mm-hm.	4013.1101
4241	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	4013.1894	And you knew	4014.1266
4243		4014.3178	that	4014.5416
4245		4014.8634	there was	4015.2364
4247		4015.4836	a line,	4016.1550
4249		4016.8405	this invisible line,	4018.0015
4251		4019.0262	of the projects	4020.0054
4253		4020.8634	because that's what they were called.	4021.8706
4255		4022.0757	They were called projects.	4023.1062
4257		4023.7859	Um, it wasn't a label that I've chosen to give it, that's just what it was called.	4027.1012
4258	DCB_int_01	4026.4340	[It was called-Mm-hm.]	4027.3903
4259	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	4027.3203	Yeah.	4027.5395
4260		4027.9032	Simple C-	4028.4021
4262		4028.5001	Actually it was called Simple City,	4029.6238
4264		4031.1381	um,	4031.6464
4266		4032.1220	and that's what you were referred to.	4033.4136
4268		4034.1690	But	4034.4674
4270		4037.2733	this wall-	4038.0474
4272		4038.3458	There was a wall there.	4039.3623
4274		4040.4208	There was this invisible wall.	4041.4886
4276		4042.5319	And	4043.1754
4278		4044.3831	if I look back now on-	4046.4954
4280		4046.9803	I had-	4047.2788
4282		4047.4501	uh,	4047.5714
4284		4047.7672	several friends	4048.7278
4286		4049.0122	that I went to school with	4050.1500
4288		4050.6955	that to this day I still	4052.0431
4290		4052.2250	communicate with and-	4053.2415
4292		4053.8465	and they-	4054.1776
4294		4054.3594	they grew up	4054.8490
4296		4055.2966	in Simple City.	4056.1220
4298		4056.6955	But I never saw them as anything different.	4058.6539
4300		4058.9943	It was just a stigma. It was a-	4060.2009
4302		4060.3687	At the time,	4061.1334
4303	DCB_int_01	4061.5951	Mm-hm.	4061.9215
4304	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	4061.9448	that was just-	4062.5043
4306		4062.7515	that was just kind of like a-	4063.9732
4308		4064.9290	I wanna say a generational kind of a-	4066.7604
4310		4067.1754	not-	4067.3713
4312		4068.2572	It was like a generational gap.	4069.4836
4314		4070.8778	It was a- It was	4071.6518
4316		4071.7730	a-	4072.2813
4318		4073.8655	I don't wanna- You can't call it a neighborhood gap cause that is- that's not necessarily	4077.1529
4320		4077.9782	accurate.	4078.4165
4322		4078.8863	But it was just-	4079.5997
4324		4079.8282	Because if you-	4080.4111
4326		4080.7608	Really,	4081.1665
4328		4081.2457	they-	4081.7400
4330		4082.3555	The people that lived in Simple City	4083.6052
4332		4084.0342	didn't-	4084.2906
4334		4084.5926	did not come	4085.3666
4336		4085.7256	in our neighborhood	4086.5043
4338		4087.1338	much at all.	4087.7680
4340		4088.9197	So you didn't see-	4089.5772
4342		4089.8185	So it was kind of like,	4090.4480
4344		4090.6485	everybody knew-	4091.3200
4346		4091.5140	everybody s- It's like- like when people talk about the-	4093.3931
4348		4093.6030	the d- railroad tracks.	4094.5216
4349	DCB_int_01	4094.6381	Mm.	4094.8666
4350	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	4095.1697	It was kind of like a divider.	4096.3028
4352		4097.3042	You stayed over here. We stayed over here.	4099.0481
4354		4099.6263	Now we all went to school together,	4101.1044
4355	DCB_int_01	4101.3749	Right.	4101.5614
4356	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	4101.8260	okay?	4102.1396
4358		4102.6187	But when you got off the school bus,	4104.1761
4360		4104.7124	you went this way, and we would go this way.	4107.1557
4362		4108.7073	So- and-	4109.2435
4364		4109.7891	and	4110.0549
4366		4111.1926	I find that	4112.1579
4368		4112.3957	um- I had an opportunity to	4113.9764
4370		4114.7446	um,	4115.0850
4372		4115.6912	through my dance,	4116.3300
4374		4116.8103	hang out with some people and get to know people from- that went to Roosevelt.	4119.9811
4375	DCB_int_01	4120.3856	Mm-hm.	4120.6560
4376	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	4121.5839	And that was interesting because their whole lifestyle was totally different from mine.	4126.1769
4378		4127.1736	And it was from a perspective of-	4128.5631
4380		4129.2393	Well,	4129.5517
4382		4129.9574	they can stay out all h- all hours of the night,	4132.2748
4384		4133.4394	you know. There was a little gentleman that,	4134.7963
4386		4134.9735	I'll never forget,	4135.5424
4388		4136.2604	um,	4136.5356
4390		4136.7174	wanted to date me,	4137.4914
4392		4138.7213	<ts>	4138.8192
4394		4139.0850	and he would	4139.4254
4396		4140.5678	drive. His parents would let him have a car or	4142.9599
4398		4144.0510	parent	4144.3867
4400		4144.5301	would let him have a car, and he would drive	4146.1761
4402		4146.6331	to my house. Well,	4147.5330
4404		4147.6263	I couldn't have company.	4148.6008
4406		4149.2536	And I was seventeen.	4149.9857
4408		4150.1151	You weren't coming in my house.	4151.2715
4410		4151.9383	My father didn't play that.	4153.1367
4412		4153.8315	And so he would come over, and	4155.4541
4414		4156.3960	we could sit out on the front porch,	4157.6679
4416		4158.1155	but about nine thirty,	4159.1180
4418		4160.0646	you got to go.	4160.7594
4420		4160.9645	[<laugh>]	4161.6546
4421	DCB_int_01	4161.1184	[Mm-hm.]	4161.7805
4422	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	4162.0323	<laugh>	4162.1676
4424		4162.4275	That's- that's the end of your visit.	4163.8963
4426		4164.7870	And I was only allowed to come to the door.	4166.5076
4428		4167.6302	I could stand in the door. I don't care how freezing cold it was,	4170.3720
4430		4170.7170	but you were not coming in the house.	4172.0786
4432		4172.1579	My father didn't allow that.	4173.2723
4434		4175.0384	That's why I call it like a generational kind of	4177.1413
4436		4177.2533	thing because	4178.1532
4438		4179.0485	he just- he was not-	4180.6478
4440		4180.8285	he wasn't for all that.	4181.9010
4442		4182.6704	And if he didn't know your parents,	4184.0320
4444		4185.2210	that wasn't happening.	4185.9111
4446		4187.4021	That- No.	4188.0595
4448		4188.9548	That's not gonna happen.	4189.6170
4449	DCB_int_01	4190.1718	So you didn't end up dating this boy?	4191.6313
4450	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	4192.5219	Not what you call- /Well/,	4193.3834
4452		4193.6539	see?	4193.9803
4454		4194.3860	What do- What do-	4194.8662
4456		4194.9875	What's dating?	4195.6528
4458		4196.5729	Uh, we could talk on telephone til nine o'clock.	4198.8670
4459	DCB_int_01	4198.8379	<laugh>	4199.7658
4460	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	4200.4839	<ts>	4200.7124
4462		4200.8383	And I had my own phone.	4201.6776
4464		4202.6894	I got my own phone when I was thirteen	4203.8645
4466		4204.6140	with my own phone line and everything.	4206.3953
4468		4206.7916	Uh-huh.	4207.1087
4470		4208.3164	But	4208.9039
4472		4209.4262	you know,	4209.7619
4474		4209.9437	and	4210.3587
4476		4210.4788	back in those days, you know, you didn't close your door, your bedroom door.	4213.0248
4478		4213.6869	All- Everybody's bedroom door stayed open.	4215.1930
4480		4216.1209	So you couldn't hide.	4216.9731
4482		4218.4372	Um,	4218.9175
4484		4219.0201	dating for me was-	4220.5542
4486		4221.5567	I didn't really date.	4222.2422
4488		4223.7098	Dating for me I sat on the front porch or the front steps in front of the house	4227.1884
4490		4227.7479	until-	4228.4240
4492		4229.6306	Summertime, I might got to stay out til ten,	4231.8594
4494		4232.5495	maybe.	4233.0112
4496		4233.4355	But I better not be off those steps.	4235.0283
4497	DCB_int_01	4235.1262	Mm.	4235.4676
4498	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	4235.9710	That was it.	4236.2974
4500		4236.6890	That was a date.	4237.1087
4502		4237.4491	Mm-hm.	4237.6356
4504		4238.5216	I got a chance to go to the movies maybe three or four times, and that was with my-	4241.9336
4506		4242.2740	my daughter's father	4243.1833
4508		4243.5983	cause I was fourteen. He was seventeen.	4245.2956
4510		4245.9391	But our parents got a chance to meet each other.	4247.8684
4511	DCB_int_01	4248.6278	Mm-hm.	4249.1049
4513		4249.3885	So it kind of [/soothed/.]	4250.7221
4514	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	4250.0506	[So it was] m- Yeah.	4251.1417
4515		4251.7059	But he still wasn't allowed in the house	4253.0990
4517		4253.3788	until I was probably about	4254.2134
4519		4254.7170	eighteen.	4255.1227
4521		4255.9900	Then he was a- He was allowed in the house then.	4257.4075
4523		4257.9204	Cause by that time they	4258.6991
4525		4258.8845	realized this boy is-	4259.6958
4527		4260.1761	He's not going away. He's here every day.	4262.5915
4529		4263.3003	And he was actually	4264.3529
4531		4264.5348	um, at Howard.	4265.3974
4533		4266.3999	I was at /RD-SCHOOL-2/, he was at Howard. Mm-hm.	4268.4050
4535		4269.8633	So that was the only saving grace cause they thought he had some potential.	4272.4233
4537		4272.7916	[<laugh>]	4273.4538
4538	DCB_int_01	4273.0154	[Cause he] was in college.	4273.9807
4539	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	4273.9760	Cause he was in college.	4274.8060
4540	DCB_int_01	4275.1464	[Otherwise-] Oh, okay.	4276.2049
4541	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	4275.2117	[Yeah.]	4275.4821
4542		4276.4194	And he-	4276.7271
4544		4276.8705	And- And he was Catholic,	4278.1994
4546		4278.3160	and went to Queen of Peace,	4279.5936
4548		4279.9200	which was a neighborhood	4280.7034
4550		4280.8526	Catholic church.	4281.5241
4552		4281.6826	So	4282.2142
4554		4282.6140	/on/ Catholic school, so y- yeah, he's	4284.3999
4555	DCB_int_01	4284.6984	He was [pretty good.]	4285.4130
4556	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	4284.9455	[He- he- Yeah], [he went- He went to- Yeah], he went to Carroll.	4287.1464
4557	DCB_int_01	4285.5657	[So what did you do at your dad's house?]	4286.5635
4558	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	4287.6919	Uh-huh, how little did they know, but yeah.	4289.2902
4560		4289.4394	<laugh>	4290.9175
4562		4291.3605	Little did they know.	4292.3630
4564		4293.0531	Um,	4293.4588
4566		4293.9950	But I didn't get a chance-	4295.0151
4568		4295.6352	I- I don't have any-	4296.9968
4570		4298.6475	me- no memories of hanging out,	4300.4660
4572		4301.3321	<ts>	4301.4254
4574		4301.7658	no memories of staying out past midnight.	4304.1532
4576		4306.8379	No memories of going to all the parties.	4308.8849
4578		4309.2113	That's why I don't party now,	4310.4236
4580		4310.9925	[you know.]	4311.3795
4581	DCB_int_01	4310.9972	[It's okay.]	4311.6080
4582	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	4312.0603	And I'm okay with it!	4312.8250
4583	DCB_int_01	4312.9265	I love being at home.	4313.9383
4584	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	4314.2321	You know, I- I've-	4315.1786
4586		4317.0251	I look at my daughter now,	4318.6385
4588		4319.4860	and she goes out- And we have a rule,	4321.2113
4590		4321.6962	if you not coming in, you call.	4323.1977
4592		4323.7992	You know.	4324.1862
4594		4325.0151	Or	4325.5140
4596		4325.6492	um,	4326.2600
4598		4327.8641	especially when she	4328.5915
4600		4328.6941	went away to college and came back home.	4330.1629
4602		4330.5965	And I realize you're out on your own, so I,	4331.9383
4604		4332.0968	you know-	4332.4279
4606		4333.1553	I'm not gonna go back into mommy mode, but	4334.7873
4608		4335.2630	you still have to respect my house.	4336.5639
4610		4337.0570	So	4337.6492
4612		4338.1808	I sit back sometimes, and I think about the things that she's had an opportunity to do	4342.5266
4614		4343.1223	that I never even would think of.	4345.5237
4616		4347.1930	Never even thought- <laugh>	4348.4800
4618		4348.9824	couldn't even imagine.	4349.8758
4619	DCB_int_01	4350.1434	Mm-hm.	4350.6766
4620	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	4351.1227	Going away?	4351.7055
4622		4352.0086	Are you kidding me?	4352.6335
4624		4353.0764	All night long?	4353.7199
4626		4353.8598	Are you serious?	4354.5441
4628		4355.0524	Spending the night somewhere else? Somebody else's home?	4357.1177
4630		4358.6195	Let alone let it be a male?	4359.9064
4632		4360.5488	Oh my God.	4361.2575
4634		4361.7378	No.	4362.1668
4636		4363.4677	Mm-mm.	4363.9946
4638		4364.3957	I think the	4364.7640
4640		4365.0298	first time I spent the night	4366.4473
4642		4369.4631	I was living in my townhouse, so I was over twenty six.	4372.6478
4644		4373.4161	Being married, separated, and divorced with a child	4375.7522
4646		4376.2884	was the first time I e- ever spent a night at a man's house,	4378.9544
4648		4380.0502	that was not my- Yeah.	4380.9921
4650		4381.1507	That wasn't my house- So I didn't-	4382.4563
4652		4383.6313	Very sheltered.	4384.2655
4654		4384.3529	<laugh>	4385.5513
4655	DCB_int_01	4386.0968	Um,	4386.4139
4657		4386.5818	couple more [/and then I'll go/.]	4387.6449
4658	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	4386.9641	[Whatcha got?]	4387.3605
4659	DCB_int_01	4388.4703	Um,	4389.5023
4661		4389.7013	we talked about restaurants. Are there any restaurants in DC that like, really stand out to you?	4393.5097
4663		4393.7941	Or even around the area, like the harbor or-	4396.0976
4664	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	4398.3440	Um,	4399.1786
4666		4402.0592	<ts>	4402.1536
4668		4402.7306	one of my favorites,	4404.5025
4670		4406.1066	I would have to say, would be Legal Seafood downtown on Seventh Street.	4409.2016
4672		4410.1528	I think that's Legal Seafood on Seventh Street, yeah.	4412.0553
4674		4412.8666	Um,	4413.4355
4676		4415.0803	<ts>	4415.1829
4678		4415.7798	Oceanaire.	4416.3999
4680		4417.1180	I think that's what- F Street?	4418.2558
4681	DCB_int_01	4419.2023	It's a popular one.	4420.1489
4682	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	4420.1431	Yeah.	4420.6374
4683		4420.8099	That's one of my favorites.	4421.9290
4685		4422.7776	Um-	4423.2672
4686	DCB_int_01	4423.4631	Obviously seafood theme.	4424.7267
4687	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	4424.8433	Oh,	4425.0391
4689		4425.1464	very much so.	4425.6593
4691		4425.8272	I'm a-	4426.1303
4693		4426.3867	Yeah, big seafood eater.	4427.4254
4695		4427.9476	I will say this.	4428.7217
4697		4428.8196	Before they tore down Market Inn,	4430.4050
4699		4432.0277	down in Southwest,	4432.9403
4701		4433.6772	used to be right beside the bridge.	4435.2113
4703		4436.0459	Market Inn is-	4436.7594
4705		4437.3749	was a-	4437.7572
4707		4438.1431	a very nice prominent little-	4439.6119
4709		4441.0248	little s- It-	4441.6434
4711		4441.7895	It was	4442.3723
4713		4442.6474	kind of steak and seafood	4444.0230
4715		4444.6140	restaurant.	4445.1596
4716	DCB_int_01	4445.1596	/Yeah/ (whispering).	4445.7238
4717	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	4446.0036	My dad took me there f-	4447.0761
4719		4447.2113	um-	4447.4910
4721		4447.7895	Well the family went	4448.6381
4723		4448.8200	when I w- when I turned thirteen.	4450.0790
4725		4450.7259	And that was major	4451.6539
4727		4452.4559	beca- And what I will say,	4453.9713
4729		4454.1578	they always gave me	4455.5054
4731		4457.1876	the better restaurants,	4458.3580
4733		4458.5072	the better-	4459.1507
4735		4459.4631	to get the exposure.	4460.4749
4736	DCB_int_01	4460.7314	Mm.	4461.1324
4737	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	4461.1464	Um,	4461.7386
4739		4462.0825	you know, at twelve, thirteen years old, dressing up to go to dinner.	4464.7263
4741		4465.9014	Um, that was a really big in our family then,	4467.5847
4743		4468.1069	growing up.	4468.5079
4745		4468.7539	That was really important to him.	4469.9803
4747		4470.9082	Um,	4471.5050
4749		4473.3609	so	4473.9577
4751		4474.1664	now-	4474.8985
4753		4475.1036	Do I have a favorite now?	4476.6237
4755		4478.1066	As long as you have decent seafood I'm good.	4479.7479
4756	DCB_int_01	4480.0467	Mm-hm.	4480.3040
4757	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	4480.8705	You know,	4481.2482
4759		4481.3741	I'm-	4481.5699
4761		4481.6772	I'm- I'm happy.	4482.3486
4763		4482.6750	At the harbor, I don't really have any favorites. I l-	4484.9365
4765		4485.1231	There's-	4485.3702
4767		4485.7106	I like-	4486.0603
4769		4486.2748	Cause I like- I like Mexican food as well, so	4488.4652
4771		4489.1087	um-	4489.5517
4773		4490.5215	<ts>	4490.6055
4775		4490.6987	Bond Forty Five, I love that place.	4492.7691
4777		4493.6492	It's really nice.	4494.4932
4779		4495.1646	Because it- there are times when	4496.4982
4781		4497.9158	I want	4498.4753
4783		4498.6234	to-	4499.2062
4785		4501.0248	I want the influence. I want	4502.5495
4787		4502.6987	the-	4503.0858
4789		4504.2515	the-	4504.4054
4791		4504.8798	to-	4505.0477
4793		4505.2109	to dine,	4505.9057
4795		4506.5445	not just eat. I want to dine.	4508.0273
4796	DCB_int_01	4508.1439	Mm-hm.	4508.5122
4797	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	4508.7733	I want the linen.	4509.6500
4799		4510.4275	You know,	4510.8145
4801		4511.3788	I want	4511.7751
4803		4512.0689	the three forks, and you have to figure out which fork goes with y-	4514.6288
4805		4514.8619	I want-	4515.3469
4807		4516.3494	I want that-	4516.8845
4809		4517.1270	that level	4517.7984
4811		4518.2041	of eating.	4518.7170
4812	DCB_int_01	4519.2812	Right.	4519.5237
4813	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	4519.7988	Now,	4520.1252
4815		4520.2185	the quality of food,	4521.1510
4817		4521.5147	m-	4521.5707
4819		4522.3261	most times than not	4523.5886
4821		4524.4839	is up to that same standard.	4525.7475
4822	DCB_int_01	4525.8569	Mm-hm.	4526.2218
4823	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	4526.8433	Um,	4527.2816
4825		4527.4355	but then I have the times where it's like, Okay, let's just get something to eat and keep it moving,	4530.3859
4827		4531.6776	[you know.]	4532.0832
4828	DCB_int_01	4531.6869	[What about the] carry out?	4532.6987
4829	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	4535.3228	Mm,	4535.8264
4831		4536.7916	not-	4537.0947
4833		4537.5843	Chinese food's probably about the only thing I do	4539.4728
4835		4539.5660	carry out.	4540.0510
4836	DCB_int_01	4541.4161	[No mumbo] sauce?	4542.4605
4837	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	4541.4207	[And it's w-]	4541.9150
4838		4543.1134	Nah, I g- I outgrew that one. They took-	4545.2909
4840		4545.4635	Uh, there was a restaurant	4546.4613
4842		4546.9311	growing up,	4547.4534
4844		4547.6445	used to be very famous for their	4549.3558
4846		4549.9667	um,	4550.2837
4848		4550.7174	chicken wings	4551.3982
4850		4551.5614	and their steak and cheese sandwiches.	4553.0384
4852		4553.4673	It was on Benning Road. It was called Aces.	4555.2206
4854		4556.1205	It was right near Fort Chaplin	4557.2396
4855	DCB_int_01	4557.4826	Mm-hm.	4557.9036
4856	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	4558.1163	apartments.	4558.6843
4858		4559.6399	That was my mumbo sauce- in high school	4561.4351
4860		4561.5330	that was my mumbo sauce days.	4563.0251
4862		4563.2256	Cause there was a place	4563.9484
4864		4564.1209	off of A Street	4565.2389
4866		4565.6585	over by /RD-SCHOOL-2/	4566.4605
4868		4566.8382	that had the best mumbo sauce.	4568.3863
4870		4568.9086	I haven't had mumbo sauce in so many years I probably wouldn't know what it taste like.	4571.6865
4872		4572.0689	<laugh>	4572.6937
4873	DCB_int_01	4572.7628	<laugh>	4573.4411
4874	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	4573.5237	I-	4573.7755
4876		4574.9226	And now-	4575.5707
4878		4575.6919	Like I-	4575.9670
4880		4576.0545	I'm not a big pizza eater anymore. I'm- I'm more of a seafood eater.	4579.1926
4882		4580.1159	But if I'm gonna do carryout,	4581.6453
4884		4582.0685	Levi's, I'll go there [occasionally] cause that's in the neighborhood.	4584.7636
4885	DCB_int_01	4583.3021	[Mm. Mm-hm.]	4583.7658
4886	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	4585.4211	That's in my neighborhood, so I'll go there, but not-	4587.3049
4888		4588.4229	That's- that what I call	4589.7191
4890		4590.8009	not fast food, but I didn't have to cook it.	4592.8200
4892		4593.5241	That's what I call that,	4594.3820
4894		4594.6327	you know.	4595.0477
4896		4595.5699	Um, but Chinese food probably would be	4597.8967
4898		4599.1743	the only thing, and- and I'm just getting s- usually soup	4601.4627
4900		4601.7564	for that or	4602.7310
4902		4603.0900	shrimp fried rice or something like that, nothing major.	4605.5147
4904		4606.8798	It's not- As long as it's seafood based, I'm good.	4608.7450
4906		4609.6403	I'm happy	4610.1299
4908		4610.6288	cause I'm- I'm more of a seafood eater than I am a steak eater.	4613.1036
4910		4613.6678	I eat steak maybe three times a year,	4615.5423
4912		4616.1998	if that.	4616.6847
4914		4617.6686	Actually that might be stretching it.	4618.8938
4916		4619.8077	I'm not a big rib eater. I eat	4621.3698
4918		4621.5330	maybe	4621.8734
4920		4622.1438	two or three times in the summer,	4623.3888
4922		4624.0463	and then I may not	4624.7213
4924		4624.8658	eat it again til the next summer,	4626.5212
4925	DCB_int_01	4626.6704	Right.	4627.2812
4926	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	4627.7102	so.	4628.2278
4927	DCB_int_01	4629.2443	what's your favorite monument?	4630.3121
4928	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	4632.4559	<ts>	4632.5491
4930		4632.6797	Um,	4633.5283
4932		4635.9204	mm.	4636.4380
4934		4638.0269	<ts>	4638.1248
4936		4638.4046	Probably would have to be	4639.8361
4938		4639.9993	the statue of Martin Luther King.	4641.4401
4940		4643.8404	That is	4644.2647
4942		4644.5165	surreal.	4645.0994
4944		4645.2999	It-	4645.4444
4946		4645.5890	it-	4645.7242
4948		4645.8128	it just-	4646.3817
4949	DCB_int_01	4646.3817	It is.	4646.8577
4950	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	4647.2256	I get a calmness	4648.5452
4952		4648.7306	when I just- if I'm just near it.	4650.2274
4953	DCB_int_01	4650.5200	Me too.	4651.0813
4954	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	4651.2439	You know, it's like-	4651.8268
4956		4653.1137	like you just wanna touch the wall and just feel the-	4655.7564
4958		4656.6983	the history behind it.	4657.7102
4960		4658.5029	So I'd- I really enjoy that.	4660.0416
4962		4660.2748	I really enjoy that.	4661.2028
4964		4661.9290	Um,	4662.3999
4966		4663.0621	that's probably-	4663.9760
4968		4664.4889	that's-	4664.6941
4970		4664.8433	that would have to be my favorite now.	4666.1489
4971	DCB_int_01	4666.9218	I think for me too.	4667.7984
4972	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	4667.7564	Yeah,	4668.0735
4973		4668.1854	[that's my favorite now.]	4668.9874
4974	DCB_int_01	4668.1948	[There's something] when you walk in there, [it's a] different-	4671.1654
4975	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	4670.1392	[It just-]	4670.5822
4976		4671.6500	You just take a deep breath of- <sigh>	4673.2995
4978		4673.6119	It's like, really?	4674.3533
4980		4675.1926	Because it's like	4676.0226
4982		4677.6173	he- he was the-	4678.8483
4984		4679.1036	the /transcend/ for-	4680.2694
4986		4680.6750	for everything, I mean everything	4682.2151
4988		4682.5449	not everything that we have,	4683.8645
4990		4683.9624	but he-	4684.4240
4992		4684.9917	and I'm not saying he was perfect by any means,	4687.0154
4994		4688.0506	but	4688.3770
4996		4688.5355	what he stood for	4689.8598
4998		4691.3414	is- is-	4691.8777
5000		4692.0362	is just-	4692.5911
5002		4693.2346	And it's not from what you learned or what,	4695.2396
5004		4695.5567	you know, they	4696.0183
5006		4696.3074	tried to teach you in grade [school.]	4697.9874
5007	DCB_int_01	4698.1790	Mm-hm.	4698.6842
5008	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	4700.3863	I actually have,	4700.9179
5010		4701.0438	you know, like read it- t- a few of his,	4702.4333
5012		4702.6793	you know, a few books	4703.4767
5014		4703.6539	and autobiographies	4704.6179
5016		4704.9128	just to give different perspectives on him.	4706.5122
5018		4707.1790	Um,	4707.5847
5020		4707.7665	of course you know, you watch all the different movies and all that, but of course Hollywood's put their spin on it, and they don't tell everything.	4712.8852
5022		4713.6266	But um, to be able to use the comparison between the two,	4716.0642
5024		4716.9362	I enjoyed that.	4717.5983
5026		4718.7220	[Yeah.]	4719.0438
5027	DCB_int_01	4718.7500	[The very] last question for you.	4720.5540
5028	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	4720.7726	Mm.	4720.9498
5029	DCB_int_01	4721.1316	If you could leave a piece of advice,	4722.9362
5031		4723.7335	what would that piece of advice be?	4725.2116
5032	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	4726.1209	As it relates to?	4727.1596
5033	DCB_int_01	4728.8709	Just advice. It could be to young people,	4730.9645
5035		4731.5054	generally,	4732.1489
5037		4732.4695	um-	4732.9917
5039		4733.3275	I ask to young people but it doesn't have [to be.]	4735.3465
5040	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	4734.9548	[To young] people?	4735.6962
5041		4738.5814	To thine own self be true.	4739.8217
5043		4741.9806	Know who you are.	4742.9505
5045		4746.3253	Um, develop it.	4747.2532
5047		4750.1162	And	4750.6711
5049		4751.1642	always have respect for not only yourself,	4753.3978
5051		4753.7661	but for others.	4754.5215
5053		4755.3842	I think respect is so important	4756.9403
5055		4758.0222	because you can get so much farther	4759.4351
5057		4760.2697	in life.	4760.9412
5059		4761.6266	Treat people the way you would wanna be treated.	4763.7844
5061		4764.5445	That's always important to me.	4765.7475
5063		4766.7267	That's something I've instilled in my daughter,	4768.6094
5065		4768.7539	/and it's like/	4769.1642
5067		4769.7471	you know-	4770.2554
5069		4770.7916	I don't care what someone has done to you,	4772.7827
5071		4773.4868	you really never know what a person has gone through or is going through at that moment,	4777.7382
5073		4779.3189	and something I've learned um,	4781.6212
5075		4783.2159	from church-	4783.9106
5077		4784.4469	from s-	4784.8573
5079		4785.0018	from my pastor in the last month,	4787.0337
5081		4787.9290	is learning to die to yourself.	4789.8081
5083		4790.8806	You know, he's on a- He's teaching now	4792.7318
5085		4793.3601	on killing- on-	4794.2321
5087		4794.5258	It's- it's called	4795.1786
5089		4795.9387	killing yourself	4796.6661
5091		4796.8200	or suicide.	4797.6266
5093		4798.1664	But it's not from the perspective of killing yourself	4800.4092
5095		4800.5585	physically,	4801.2672
5097		4802.3070	it's killing yourself from	4803.7992
5099		4803.9064	a spiritual perspective	4805.2155
5101		4805.6026	that-	4805.9523
5103		4808.8386	I don't have to be right all the time.	4810.3995
5105		4812.3813	I don't have to know everything.	4813.5890
5107		4815.3655	So	4815.7152
5109		4815.9857	I don't have to	4816.5394
5111		4816.6746	take anger to everything.	4818.0176
5113		4818.3673	I don't have to have an opinion about everything.	4820.6568
5115		4821.3842	So if you were to say something	4823.1683
5117		4823.4160	cause you can't offend me unless I allow you to offend me.	4826.0413
5119		4827.1417	Okay?	4827.5101
5121		4828.1897	My response to anything that you say or do is my responsibility,	4831.4864
5123		4832.7733	and that's what I'm-	4833.3515
5125		4833.5147	that's what I've been taught.	4834.3168
5127		4835.0663	So if you say something	4836.9735
5129		4837.4351	and your intent is to	4838.4096
5131		4838.6008	anger me,	4839.2723
5133		4841.9196	it's up to me to die to myself	4843.8174
5135		4844.2931	and not allow you to have control	4845.9018
5137		4846.7399	over me.	4847.1689
5139		4847.9476	So that's why I said	4848.8942
5141		4849.2299	to thy own self be true.	4850.5075
5143		4850.8666	So if-	4851.3982
5145		4851.6966	if-	4851.9251
5147		4852.0416	if-	4852.3074
5149		4852.5487	for young people,	4853.4254
5151		4853.5699	or anyone really,	4854.4978
5153		4858.1442	no one control you unless you give them control.	4860.5165
5155		4862.2138	And that's my lesson I'm learning these days.	4864.1116
5157		4865.2389	I'm not quick to anger anymore.	4866.6144
5159		4867.5377	My m- If you do something I don't like, Oh, okay.	4869.3888
5161		4870.6746	If you do something that doesn't make sense to me,	4872.1341
5163		4872.8755	<ts>	4872.9874
5165		4873.2299	mm.	4873.4444
5167		4873.6496	Okay.	4874.0179
5169		4876.6280	At the end of the day,	4877.5186
5171		4881.2769	you may continue to do something that bothers me, but I-	4883.7331
5173		4883.9569	It's up to me if I allow you to bother me.	4886.2604
5174	DCB_int_01	4886.7034	Right.	4887.0205
5175	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	4887.5800	And it doesn't mean I don't care,	4888.9254
5177		4889.6026	I do care.	4890.3719
5179		4891.3232	But I choose not to let	4892.5635
5181		4892.7267	people have control of me.	4893.9950
5183		4895.7331	And that way,	4896.4419
5185		4897.8268	I always-	4898.3164
5187		4898.4563	My- my- my running line is,	4900.4566
5189		4901.8917	If I do not get into heaven, it will not be because of someone else.	4905.4075
5190	DCB_int_01	4906.2430	Mm-hm.	4906.7248
5191	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	4906.9497	It'll be because of something	4907.9896
5192	DCB_int_01	4908.1468	[Mm-hm.] Yup.	4909.0434
5193	DCB_se2_ag4_f_04	4908.1481	I did.	4908.6890
5194		4910.4283	So that would be probably it.	4911.3982