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| 1 | PRV_int_01 | 1.0257 | So you were saying | 2.0102 |
| 3 | | 2.4200 | you had some pictures there of- you did a fundraiser with uh, Evander Holyfield? | 6.4602 |
| 4 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 6.7511 | Yeah, um, | 7.7309 |
| 6 | | 8.4649 | this other flood, | 9.3288 |
| 8 | | 10.8246 | um, | 11.4258 |
| 10 | | 12.4813 | let's see. | 13.0493 |
| 11 | PRV_int_01 | 13.3002 | Okay. | 13.7404 |
| 12 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 15.9773 | Here we go. | 16.5406 |
| 14 | | 17.0187 | I think- | 17.3974 |
| 16 | | 17.6530 | I don't know if this was for the, uh, flood or not. | 19.6681 |
| 18 | | 21.0232 | Serving us- Yeah this might been it. | 22.4381 |
| 20 | | 45.8590 | But they had a- they had a news article on- on that, um- | 49.0919 |
| 21 | PRV_int_01 | 49.6173 | Okay. | 49.9865 |
| 23 | | 51.1794 | Yeah I saw some pictures of you with the kids there. | 53.8849 |
| 24 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 54.7417 | Uh-huh. | 55.3144 |
| 25 | PRV_int_01 | 56.8244 | You said you- now you had a or- you have an or- uh- you have t- some t-shirts made? You [have a uh-] | 60.8411 |
| 26 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 60.3630 | [Yeah here it] is. Yeah. | 61.5132 |
| 27 | PRV_int_01 | 61.7073 | Okay. | 62.0244 |
| 28 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 61.9392 | Serving up flood relief from a golden platter. | 64.0767 |
| 29 | | 64.5785 | And this was back in, um, | 66.3819 |
| 31 | | 66.8269 | what's the date on this thing? | 68.0907 |
| 32 | PRV_int_01 | 70.5027 | Looks like- | 70.9571 |
| 33 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 70.9714 | Yeah this said it's in Princeville two thousand national telethon. | 74.3889 |
| 35 | | 75.6649 | In, uh, | 76.2613 |
| 37 | | 76.6400 | I think that we raised over | 78.0222 |
| 39 | | 78.8695 | one point five million dollars. | 80.5384 |
| 40 | PRV_int_01 | 80.5620 | Wow. | 80.8555 |
| 41 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 81.7265 | Yep. | 82.0152 |
| 42 | PRV_int_01 | 82.2329 | Now what was that like? What exactly did the- the fundraiser | 85.1298 |
| 44 | | 85.3381 | consist of? | 85.8919 |
| 45 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 86.2043 | Uh, it- | 86.6966 |
| 47 | | 86.9096 | it consisted of, um, | 88.5075 |
| 49 | | 91.4138 | of going out and doing a telethon with, um, | 94.1619 |
| 51 | | 94.4459 | /RD-NAME-5/'s company uh, NBC, | 96.9878 |
| 53 | | 97.9297 | which is located in Atlanta, Georgia. | 99.8779 |
| 54 | PRV_int_01 | 100.3607 | Okay. | 100.6211 |
| 55 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 100.8246 | And, uh, Evander Holyfield is one of the board members as well as uh, Marlon Jackson. | 105.9726 |
| 56 | PRV_int_01 | 106.0341 | Oh okay. | 106.5974 |
| 57 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 106.6258 | So, um, mayor, uh, | 108.0979 |
| 59 | | 108.5665 | /RD-NAME-4/, | 109.8871 |
| 61 | | 110.4646 | she would, um, | 111.5419 |
| 63 | | 112.3039 | she's- she- she would go down too | 113.9322 |
| 65 | | 114.4056 | with some of her board members. | 115.6552 |
| 66 | PRV_int_01 | 115.8303 | Mkay. | 116.2043 |
| 67 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 116.5877 | And, um, | 117.5000 |
| 69 | | 119.4968 | so we'd, | 119.8328 |
| 71 | | 120.0553 | you know, do a telethon, and I think it w- Cox- Cox carried it. | 123.5750 |
| 72 | PRV_int_01 | 123.8353 | Okay. | 124.2471 |
| 73 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 124.3655 | And, uh, | 125.1228 |
| 75 | | 125.9180 | think it was seen in | 126.9594 |
| 77 | | 127.4375 | several | 128.1333 |
| 79 | | 129.1253 | several s- several countries. | 130.6589 |
| 80 | PRV_int_01 | 130.9619 | Okay. | 131.3074 |
| 81 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 131.4116 | Yeah. | 131.7098 |
| 83 | | 132.2636 | [Yeah.] | 132.5381 |
| 84 | PRV_int_01 | 132.3156 | [And they-] So, it was just a- a one day like telethon and they | 135.5040 |
| 85 | | 136.2519 | [have people] call in and donate? | 137.6766 |
| 86 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 136.2613 | [Mm-hm.] | 136.6921 |
| 87 | | 137.8328 | Right, and- and Lowe's would give the biggest donation. | 140.9758 |
| 88 | PRV_int_01 | 141.1158 | Okay. | 141.4425 |
| 89 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 141.5987 | I think they would do a million dollars in supplies. | 144.0174 |
| 91 | | 144.7464 | Uh, they help people here build, you know, rebuild back. | 147.4283 |
| 92 | PRV_int_01 | 147.5513 | Yeah, I noticed. | 148.5879 |
| 93 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 148.9429 | [Yeah.] | 149.2885 |
| 94 | PRV_int_01 | 149.0234 | [You've got] the uh, new park? | 150.4103 |
| 95 | | 150.7180 | Right? Lowe's donated that? | 152.5688 |
| 96 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 152.8906 | [Yeah.] | 153.2740 |
| 97 | PRV_int_01 | 153.0780 | [That-] | 153.3241 |
| 98 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 153.4614 | Mm-hm. | 153.8117 |
| 99 | PRV_int_01 | 153.7785 | Okay. | 154.1856 |
| 100 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 154.6400 | <clears throat> | 155.1938 |
| 101 | PRV_int_01 | 155.5157 | And so who- so they had- so you performed for the telethon? | 158.5532 |
| 102 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 158.5593 | Mm-hm. Yeah I- I would go down and, um, | 160.9145 |
| 104 | | 161.6672 | do one of our songs, w- two songs as a matter of fact, | 164.5640 |
| 106 | | 165.0922 | Only You, which was the greatest song that we would ever do. | 167.9985 |
| 107 | PRV_int_01 | 168.0364 | Mm-hm. | 168.5097 |
| 108 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 168.5429 | And then, uh, | 169.4469 |
| 110 | | 170.4599 | trying to appeal to the, uh, people | 173.0092 |
| 112 | | 173.4258 | that uh, the essence of it was for really the children | 176.3904 |
| 113 | PRV_int_01 | 176.5309 | Mm-hm. | 176.8102 |
| 114 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 176.7676 | to rebuild, restore. | 178.1651 |
| 115 | PRV_int_01 | 178.3749 | Mm-hm. | 178.7773 |
| 116 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 178.8719 | And so we would do, uh, an original song | 180.9499 |
| 118 | | 181.5605 | titled Do It For The Kids, | 182.7628 |
| 119 | PRV_int_01 | 182.9853 | Okay. | 183.3119 |
| 120 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 183.3099 | that was recorded and produced in Prince Studio in Minneapolis, [Minnesota. Yeah.] | 187.2245 |
| 121 | PRV_int_01 | 186.1642 | [Oh okay. Okay.] | 187.2103 |
| 122 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 187.5511 | Yeah. | 187.7593 |
| 123 | PRV_int_01 | 189.0326 | So that- | 189.5000 |
| 125 | | 189.7028 | that sounds like quite an experience, | 191.4589 |
| 127 | | 191.8470 | uh, | 192.2210 |
| 129 | | 192.8174 | bringing all those people together. | 194.1096 |
| 130 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 194.4220 | Yeah, | 194.6824 |
| 132 | | 194.8338 | it was. | 195.3592 |
| 134 | | 195.7501 | Yep. | 196.0673 |
| 136 | | 196.7252 | T- and- and to, uh, meet Evander Holyfield and- and- and to use some of his kids from his, uh, | 201.2436 |
| 137 | PRV_int_01 | 201.4898 | Uh-huh. | 201.7549 |
| 138 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 201.9300 | youth club that- that was a- was a thrill in itself. | 204.4130 |
| 139 | PRV_int_01 | 204.3582 | Okay. | 204.7890 |
| 140 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 204.7843 | Yeah. | 205.0683 |
| 141 | PRV_int_01 | 205.3381 | What's he like? | 205.9960 |
| 142 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 206.9380 | Well he- he wasn't doing that much talking. | 208.6809 |
| 143 | PRV_int_01 | 208.7110 | Okay. [<laugh>] | 209.4873 |
| 144 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 209.1702 | [Yeah.] | 209.5015 |
| 145 | | 209.8139 | I don't- I don't think he's a talkative person. | 211.6647 |
| 146 | PRV_int_01 | 212.0197 | /?/ | 212.2848 |
| 147 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 212.4410 | And Marlon didn't do that much either. | 214.5690 |
| 148 | PRV_int_01 | 215.1181 | Okay. | 215.4968 |
| 149 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 215.4542 | But, uh, | 216.0174 |
| 150 | | 217.2197 | Mr. Gary, you know, was very, um, | 219.3430 |
| 152 | | 220.1288 | verbal and | 221.2364 |
| 154 | | 221.8139 | supportive in- in the effort of raising funds for the area. | 225.3250 |
| 155 | PRV_int_01 | 225.3951 | [Uh-huh.] | 225.8353 |
| 156 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 225.5324 | [Yeah.] | 225.8306 |
| 157 | PRV_int_01 | 226.1856 | Okay. | 226.5455 |
| 158 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 227.0329 | Yep. | 227.6435 |
| 159 | PRV_int_01 | 227.7902 | So how- | 228.3914 |
| 161 | | 228.8079 | now you said you moved | 230.1570 |
| 163 | | 230.3747 | back | 230.7324 |
| 165 | | 230.9596 | to Princeville. | 231.7596 |
| 167 | | 232.0483 | When did you m- move back to Princeville? | 233.8092 |
| 168 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 233.9370 | Well I would come back here, um, | 235.5085 |
| 170 | | 236.7155 | in the year two thousand | 237.9726 |
| 172 | | 238.5406 | right after the flood. | 239.4163 |
| 173 | PRV_int_01 | 239.4305 | Okay. | 239.7933 |
| 174 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 239.8612 | Yeah because | 240.4434 |
| 176 | | 240.8884 | this house, | 241.6079 |
| 178 | | 242.5640 | the old house that was once here, | 244.1761 |
| 180 | | 244.8435 | was totally underwater. | 246.4434 |
| 181 | PRV_int_01 | 246.5381 | Mm-hm. | 246.9026 |
| 182 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 246.8789 | Uh, it didn't leave the- | 248.1664 |
| 183 | | 248.4694 | the foundation, | 249.2504 |
| 185 | | 249.9016 | but uh, | 250.5122 |
| 187 | | 250.9382 | it was just- | 251.6766 |
| 189 | | 252.2588 | it was a mess, [you know?] | 253.6363 |
| 190 | PRV_int_01 | 253.1582 | [Mm.] | 253.5795 |
| 191 | | 254.2942 | [So the] flood is actually what | 255.7785 |
| 192 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 254.3463 | [Yeah.] | 254.7723 |
| 193 | PRV_int_01 | 256.9429 | you | 257.1891 |
| 195 | | 257.4258 | kind of | 257.7192 |
| 197 | | 257.9985 | made you- | 258.4766 |
| 199 | | 258.6612 | pushed you- | 259.2434 |
| 200 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 259.5037 | Back in this direction, yeah. | 260.7466 |
| 201 | PRV_int_01 | 260.7892 | Really? | 261.1395 |
| 202 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 261.2957 | Yeah I was living in, uh, Milwaukee, | 263.1181 |
| 203 | PRV_int_01 | 263.4163 | Mm-hm. | 263.7713 |
| 204 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 263.8281 | and, um, doing very well | 265.8635 |
| 206 | | 266.2185 | uh, with my- | 267.1084 |
| 208 | | 268.2282 | my semi retirement in in- in the industry. | 270.5192 |
| 209 | PRV_int_01 | 270.6044 | Okay. | 271.0446 |
| 210 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 271.2292 | And, um, | 272.1096 |
| 212 | | 272.8508 | my two brother- not my- not two brothers- my- my brothers, uh, | 275.9938 |
| 214 | | 276.9026 | their wives and their families, you know, they weren't interested in | 280.3181 |
| 216 | | 280.7157 | relocating, coming back. | 282.2257 |
| 217 | PRV_int_01 | 282.1594 | Mm-hm. | 282.5002 |
| 218 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 282.7559 | And I recalled daddy | 284.2043 |
| 220 | | 284.3794 | saying, | 285.0354 |
| 222 | | 285.2484 | you know, hold on to it. | 286.3513 |
| 223 | PRV_int_01 | 286.6779 | Mm-hm. | 287.0376 |
| 224 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 287.3784 | Hold on to it. | 288.0742 |
| 226 | | 288.4434 | You know, because this was- | 289.4422 |
| 228 | | 289.9534 | this where it all began. | 290.9474 |
| 230 | | 291.9679 | And [um-] | 292.8009 |
| 231 | PRV_int_01 | 292.2741 | [So he- this] was your father? | 293.7997 |
| 232 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 294.1847 | [/?/] | 294.3538 |
| 233 | PRV_int_01 | 294.1926 | [Saying] hold on to it? | 295.3996 |
| 234 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 295.4091 | Yeah hold on to the land, [yeah.] | 296.7344 |
| 235 | PRV_int_01 | 296.4978 | [Oh] to the land. | 297.3782 |
| 236 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 297.3809 | Yeah, to the house. I mean just hold on to the- | 298.9477 |
| 238 | | 299.3311 | to the little seed. | 300.2020 |
| 240 | | 300.9736 | And so uh, I said, well, | 302.2185 |
| 242 | | 303.7738 | I guess it's gonna fall on me, so. | 305.4968 |
| 243 | PRV_int_01 | 306.1973 | When did he tell you that? | 307.2387 |
| 244 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 307.5463 | Oh he's always- | 308.4978 |
| 245 | PRV_int_01 | 308.9596 | Yeah. | 309.2673 |
| 246 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 309.6886 | Yeah he's always instilled that in us, you know, | 311.6198 |
| 248 | | 312.4813 | that, um, | 313.2387 |
| 250 | | 313.9534 | never let it go. | 314.6824 |
| 251 | PRV_int_01 | 315.5277 | Yep. | 315.8401 |
| 252 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 316.8199 | Now I know we- we're talking now, but did you wanna start | 319.7925 |
| 254 | | 320.3747 | chronologically | 321.2788 |
| 255 | PRV_int_01 | 321.4519 | [We can.] | 322.0909 |
| 256 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 321.6223 | [back to] nineteen [forty or how you-] [however you wanna do it.] | 324.4671 |
| 257 | PRV_int_01 | 322.4554 | [You- you can] | 323.4400 |
| 259 | | 323.6151 | [go with any-] | 324.4482 |
| 260 | | 324.5618 | whatever order it- | 325.3665 |
| 262 | | 325.6505 | it comes up in. | 326.7108 |
| 263 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 326.8792 | Well [you-] | 327.3146 |
| 264 | PRV_int_01 | 327.0827 | [Although] I've- seems like we were kind of going in that direction | 329.4400 |
| 265 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 329.6340 | [Uh-huh.] | 330.0695 |
| 266 | PRV_int_01 | 329.8092 | [just in] terms of | 330.5618 |
| 267 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 330.7606 | [But-] | 330.9547 |
| 268 | PRV_int_01 | 330.7701 | [the house] here and | 331.7925 |
| 269 | | 332.5593 | uh, | 332.9644 |
| 271 | | 333.2010 | the land | 333.8543 |
| 273 | | 334.2282 | that sounds like it's been in your family | 335.8991 |
| 274 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 336.1121 | Mm-hm. | 336.5713 |
| 275 | PRV_int_01 | 336.6186 | for a long time. | 337.4611 |
| 276 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 337.5369 | Yeah- long time. [<laugh>] | 339.0752 |
| 277 | PRV_int_01 | 338.5972 | [<laugh>] | 338.7818 |
| 278 | | 339.6129 | Now s- | 340.0720 |
| 280 | | 340.6069 | how far back do- does this piece of land go in your family? | 344.0481 |
| 281 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 344.0481 | Uh, it- this land goes f- as far back to the river. | 346.8905 |
| 282 | PRV_int_01 | 347.4352 | Okay. | 347.7713 |
| 283 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 347.8470 | Mm-hm. | 348.2020 |
| 284 | PRV_int_01 | 348.4198 | Okay. | 348.7417 |
| 285 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 348.8221 | Which is over- I would say it's over three, four hundred feet | 352.2992 |
| 287 | | 352.6779 | deep. | 353.1702 |
| 288 | PRV_int_01 | 353.5157 | [Okay.] | 353.9278 |
| 289 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 353.5441 | [But it- we-] we can only utilize, um, | 355.7688 |
| 290 | | 356.4816 | um, r- | 357.1726 |
| 292 | | 357.3714 | right now | 358.1288 |
| 294 | | 358.3181 | two hundred feet | 359.0802 |
| 296 | | 359.4352 | that's | 360.0127 |
| 298 | | 360.2920 | I call | 360.8458 |
| 300 | | 361.2292 | landscapable, you know, | 362.6303 |
| 301 | PRV_int_01 | 362.5972 | Mm-hm. | 362.8906 |
| 302 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 363.3052 | salvageable | 364.0294 |
| 303 | PRV_int_01 | 364.2850 | Mm-hm. | 364.5311 |
| 304 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 364.4459 | because you got a- | 365.4116 |
| 305 | | 365.7382 | a natural spring that I used to play back there as a child | 368.4788 |
| 306 | PRV_int_01 | 368.7656 | Okay. | 369.0354 |
| 307 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 369.2957 | that is still running | 370.3702 |
| 308 | PRV_int_01 | 370.5548 | Okay. | 370.9287 |
| 309 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 371.0187 | and so it's infested with, um, | 373.1535 |
| 311 | | 374.4457 | with the crawlers | 375.3734 |
| 313 | | 375.8874 | and, uh- | 376.5737 |
| 315 | | 377.1512 | But I eventually hope to, um- | 379.3428 |
| 317 | | 379.8871 | this fall | 380.4876 |
| 319 | | 381.1537 | I got me a new Poulan | 382.3465 |
| 321 | | 383.5488 | uh, chainsaw. | 384.7038 |
| 322 | PRV_int_01 | 384.8742 | Okay. | 385.3381 |
| 323 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 385.5085 | I'm gonna go back in there and | 387.7028 |
| 325 | | 388.0957 | save a few. | 388.9003 |
| 326 | PRV_int_01 | 389.2128 | Uh-huh. | 389.5299 |
| 327 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 389.4447 | Because you know we have, um, | 390.7795 |
| 328 | | 391.6883 | a dyke /??/- | 392.5546 |
| 330 | | 392.8082 | a- a lake back there which was the results | 395.2601 |
| 332 | | 395.9985 | from digging the dyke. | 397.3097 |
| 333 | PRV_int_01 | 397.9581 | Oh. | 398.3037 |
| 334 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 398.9880 | As a- as a preventative, uh, measures for keeping Princeville from being, you know, flooded. | 403.4848 |
| 335 | PRV_int_01 | 403.6694 | Uh-huh. | 404.0197 |
| 336 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 404.1996 | And I think um, local contractor, Mr /RD-NAME-2/, | 407.3406 |
| 338 | | 408.5949 | /RD-NAME-5/, | 409.7262 |
| 340 | | 410.5262 | would dig that | 411.5939 |
| 342 | | 412.1004 | and, um, | 412.9003 |
| 344 | | 413.8328 | and would help build | 414.8600 |
| 346 | | 415.5653 | that- | 415.8871 |
| 348 | | 416.0954 | that dyke. | 416.6824 |
| 349 | PRV_int_01 | 416.8764 | Okay. | 417.2646 |
| 350 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 417.1916 | Yeah. | 417.4377 |
| 351 | PRV_int_01 | 418.4554 | So- so- so they | 419.7760 |
| 353 | | 420.1168 | made the river a little bit lower and then made the dyke next to it or? | 423.4472 |
| 354 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 424.2282 | Well, no, they didn't- they didn't dredge the river, | 426.6186 |
| 356 | | 427.5037 | they just dug on this side | 429.3403 |
| 358 | | 429.5182 | of the land. | 430.3655 |
| 360 | | 430.9240 | And they dug a nice beautiful hole s- it's- and they stocked it | 434.8954 |
| 362 | | 435.5419 | with fish. | 436.1193 |
| 363 | PRV_int_01 | 436.4128 | Oh really? | 436.8388 |
| 364 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 436.8199 | And so it could be- if it was developed | 438.6991 |
| 365 | | 439.7262 | uh, right, it could be a very attractive um, | 442.4270 |
| 367 | | 443.2554 | r- r- | 443.6151 |
| 369 | | 443.7997 | resort area for fishing and a- uh- recreation. | 447.3403 |
| 370 | PRV_int_01 | 447.6413 | Okay. | 448.0057 |
| 371 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 448.3039 | Yep. | 448.6921 |
| 372 | PRV_int_01 | 449.2885 | Think maybe we could get- go out there at some point? [/I know it's not-/] | 452.2516 |
| 373 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 451.7925 | [I] doubt it. | 452.7581 |
| 374 | | 452.9880 | Uh- | 453.2105 |
| 375 | PRV_int_01 | 453.3194 | [/inaudible/] | 454.6684 |
| 376 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 453.3430 | <laugh> at this time of year- | 454.6211 |
| 377 | | 454.8435 | [No- uh-] | 455.1702 |
| 378 | PRV_int_01 | 454.8719 | [Yeah.] | 455.1181 |
| 379 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 455.3952 | But no, you can go down here uh, | 457.4212 |
| 381 | | 457.7714 | two doors down, Mr. /RD-NAME-2/. | 459.4971 |
| 382 | PRV_int_01 | 459.5681 | Uh-huh. | 459.9042 |
| 383 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 460.1456 | Uh, he- people using his | 462.3467 |
| 385 | | 463.3549 | /unintelligible/ to get back the fish. | 464.9291 |
| 386 | PRV_int_01 | 465.0569 | Oh [okay.] | 465.7622 |
| 387 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 465.4403 | [Yeah.] | 465.7527 |
| 388 | PRV_int_01 | 466.0651 | Okay. | 466.4770 |
| 389 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 466.9030 | But they- but those guys are crawling out there now, if you know what I'm talking about. | 470.0034 |
| 390 | PRV_int_01 | 470.1576 | No, what's- what- | 471.1232 |
| 391 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 471.1185 | Snakes. | 471.7480 |
| 392 | PRV_int_01 | 471.9657 | Really? | 472.3539 |
| 393 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 472.5953 | Yeah. | 472.8888 |
| 394 | PRV_int_01 | 472.8083 | Oh okay. | 473.8591 |
| 395 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 473.8544 | Yeah, there's- that- that has been | 475.5490 |
| 396 | | 475.7241 | since I was a kid | 476.8392 |
| 398 | | 477.6013 | um, | 478.1929 |
| 400 | | 478.5953 | /have/ always been uh, snake /bed/. | 480.5786 |
| 401 | PRV_int_01 | 481.2413 | [/?/] | 481.5632 |
| 402 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 481.2555 | [And] uh, we used to run 'em, man, r- | 483.2273 |
| 403 | | 483.5303 | cra- you know, young days, [we was] crazier. | 485.2816 |
| 404 | PRV_int_01 | 484.5574 | [Yeah.] | 484.8556 |
| 405 | | 485.3337 | [<laugh>] | 486.0295 |
| 406 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 485.6840 | [Used to] run 'em (laughing). | 486.5833 |
| 407 | | 487.8330 | Catch 'em, and and uh, n- | 489.0901 |
| 409 | | 489.5397 | kill 'em or whatever, just | 490.8414 |
| 411 | | 491.1065 | call ourselves r- | 492.0106 |
| 413 | | 492.2425 | you know, getting rid of 'em. | 493.1892 |
| 414 | PRV_int_01 | 493.4543 | Uh-huh. | 493.8803 |
| 415 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 494.1359 | Yep. | 494.4767 |
| 416 | PRV_int_01 | 495.3835 | So you go back there, venture into the snakes? | 497.7502 |
| 417 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 498.4461 | Yeah as a kid. Now- don't do it now. | 500.0773 |
| 418 | PRV_int_01 | 500.1406 | [<laugh>] | 501.3930 |
| 419 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 500.6593 | [<laugh>] | 501.5019 |
| 420 | PRV_int_01 | 502.0131 | So you gonna go back there with your chainsaw. <laugh> | 504.3325 |
| 421 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 504.7963 | Yep. | 505.3075 |
| 423 | | 505.8898 | Here come the wintertime, I'll uh, put on my- my gum boots and uh, get me some help. | 510.3135 |
| 424 | PRV_int_01 | 510.6543 | Okay. | 510.9999 |
| 425 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 511.0709 | And uh, | 511.6152 |
| 427 | | 512.3469 | just go back there and cut down maybe half a dozen or more | 515.3290 |
| 428 | PRV_int_01 | 515.6035 | Okay. | 515.9727 |
| 429 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 516.8673 | of the trees and just | 518.1548 |
| 431 | | 519.4261 | let 'em lay and let | 520.3302 |
| 433 | | 520.6426 | Mother Nature take care of 'em. | 521.9301 |
| 434 | PRV_int_01 | 522.0863 | [Mm-hm.] | 522.4461 |
| 435 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 522.2047 | [Yeah.] | 522.4792 |
| 436 | PRV_int_01 | 522.8295 | Mm-hm. | 523.1797 |
| 437 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 523.9844 | Yep. | 524.1548 |
| 438 | PRV_int_01 | 524.8250 | So | 525.2652 |
| 440 | | 525.7906 | now you- | 526.1456 |
| 442 | | 526.3586 | so you- this goes all the way back to the river. | 528.4508 |
| 443 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 528.6117 | Mm-hm. | 529.0709 |
| 444 | PRV_int_01 | 528.9999 | And the- | 529.3738 |
| 445 | | 529.7288 | it's this | 530.1217 |
| 447 | | 530.2854 | lot here. | 530.8487 |
| 449 | | 531.5303 | Is this the land that your | 532.8367 |
| 451 | | 533.3905 | father- grandfather- who- | 534.9578 |
| 452 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 534.9383 | Mm-mm. Mm, no. Mom and Daddy bought this lot. | 537.1090 |
| 453 | PRV_int_01 | 537.2794 | [Okay.] | 537.7196 |
| 454 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 537.5445 | [But] the original property, um, | 539.5467 |
| 455 | | 540.0295 | would be over there in Princeville, | 541.8377 |
| 457 | | 542.9386 | right across from, um, the town hall | 545.4142 |
| 459 | | 546.1384 | now. | 546.5597 |
| 460 | PRV_int_01 | 546.7490 | Okay. | 547.1040 |
| 461 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 547.3928 | But before the replaced the town hall, long long time ago as a child, um, Mr. /RD-NAME-3/, | 552.3751 |
| 463 | | 553.2886 | who Princeville was named after, his house was right across the street from my grandmom's. | 557.0015 |
| 464 | PRV_int_01 | 556.8793 | Oh really? | 557.3574 |
| 465 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 557.4804 | Yeah, [and uh,] | 558.3656 |
| 466 | PRV_int_01 | 557.7644 | [Okay.] | 558.2804 |
| 467 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 558.7443 | uh, we used to go over there and | 560.1028 |
| 469 | | 560.2286 | play on that porch and under the house. | 562.3634 |
| 470 | PRV_int_01 | 562.6852 | Mm-hm. | 563.0024 |
| 471 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 563.1254 | And y- you know, | 564.1952 |
| 473 | | 564.4035 | got some very v- vivid | 565.8046 |
| 475 | | 566.0602 | and fond memories as a child | 567.8095 |
| 477 | | 568.2971 | on Main Street. | 569.0071 |
| 478 | PRV_int_01 | 569.3763 | Kay. | 569.5893 |
| 479 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 569.7408 | Yeah, | 569.9822 |
| 481 | | 570.1005 | it was a- it was a wonderful place | 571.6484 |
| 482 | PRV_int_01 | 571.9182 | Really? | 572.2495 |
| 483 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 572.3063 | just to- to stay and to live- to- to be raised up, yeah. | 575.2248 |
| 485 | | 576.3041 | The neighborhood, um, | 577.7052 |
| 487 | | 579.0901 | I had all my cronies and by buddies, you know, it was like, | 581.8449 |
| 489 | | 582.5029 | my best- one of my best buddies stayed right next door. | 584.9386 |
| 490 | PRV_int_01 | 585.3220 | Okay. | 585.5634 |
| 491 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 586.0178 | Uh, /RD-NAME-6/. | 587.4473 |
| 493 | | 588.1526 | And, um- | 589.1229 |
| 494 | PRV_int_01 | 589.2555 | Next to your grandma. | 590.0464 |
| 495 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 590.2664 | Mm-hm. | 590.6877 |
| 496 | PRV_int_01 | 590.7351 | Okay. | 591.1008 |
| 497 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 591.6723 | And | 592.2971 |
| 499 | | 593.5893 | his mom and dad was raised with my mom and dad. | 595.9230 |
| 500 | PRV_int_01 | 596.0886 | Really? | 596.3489 |
| 501 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 596.4652 | And also Mr. /RD-NAME-2/- you've- you spoke with Mr. /RD-NAME-2/ yet? | 598.9503 |
| 503 | | 599.4804 | Well Mr. /RD-NAME-2/ and my daddy was raised up. And I was raised up with his children, /RD-NAME-2/ and /RD-NAME-2/. | 604.5716 |
| 504 | PRV_int_01 | 604.7468 | Okay. | 605.1964 |
| 505 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 605.1917 | /RD-NAME-7/. | 606.3751 |
| 506 | PRV_int_01 | 606.5360 | Mm-hm. | 606.9194 |
| 507 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 606.9194 | As a matter fact, uh, | 608.2874 |
| 508 | | 608.7303 | /RD-NAME-2/ would be | 610.7326 |
| 510 | | 610.9598 | the one | 611.5988 |
| 512 | | 611.7786 | I give her this credit. | 612.8389 |
| 514 | | 613.3644 | And I appreciate it. | 614.1880 |
| 515 | PRV_int_01 | 614.4132 | Yeah. | 614.6593 |
| 516 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 614.8061 | But she would | 615.3835 |
| 518 | | 615.7433 | sound the alarm that I was on Johnny Carson show. | 618.3751 |
| 519 | PRV_int_01 | 618.5313 | Okay. | 618.9005 |
| 520 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 619.1324 | Yeah. | 619.4259 |
| 522 | | 619.8140 | She was in Washington DC and she happened to see it | 622.4628 |
| 524 | | 622.9882 | and so she got on the phone and call her mom and call up everybody, say | 626.3016 |
| 526 | | 626.7209 | /RD-NAME-4/ is on the Johnny Carson [show with the] [Platters! <laugh>] | 630.0627 |
| 527 | PRV_int_01 | 628.8367 | [Yeah!] | 629.1690 |
| 529 | | 629.6603 | [<laugh>] | 630.7253 |
| 530 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 631.0993 | And they would tell me that later on. I said, well, /RD-NAME-1/, if you hadn't told 'em, I said, you know how remote | 635.1728 |
| 532 | | 635.4994 | the area [is. I said], they would have never- and I say, | 637.7004 |
| 533 | PRV_int_01 | 636.0579 | [Yeah.] | 636.4177 |
| 534 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 637.9986 | a lot of 'em don't even know it today. | 639.4829 |
| 536 | | 639.6675 | [You know?] | 640.0509 |
| 537 | PRV_int_01 | 639.6675 | [Uh-huh.] | 640.0462 |
| 538 | | 640.3918 | [Yeah.] | 640.7988 |
| 539 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 640.4296 | [/Uh/] | 640.7657 |
| 540 | | 641.6461 | but uh. | 642.2567 |
| 541 | PRV_int_01 | 642.5691 | So you're pretty close with, uh, | 643.7762 |
| 543 | | 644.0345 | both families? | 644.7819 |
| 544 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 644.9197 | Mm-hm. | 645.3693 |
| 545 | PRV_int_01 | 645.4735 | Okay. | 645.9184 |
| 546 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 646.2450 | Yep. | 646.7704 |
| 547 | PRV_int_01 | 647.0024 | So you- what- what was your grandmother- your grandparent's names? | 649.5348 |
| 548 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 649.7809 | Um, | 650.3442 |
| 550 | | 650.7919 | /RD-NAME-1/ | 651.4640 |
| 552 | | 651.6770 | /RD-NAME-2/ | 652.4060 |
| 554 | | 652.5196 | and my granddaddy was name /RD-NAME-1/. | 653.9443 |
| 555 | PRV_int_01 | 653.9917 | Okay. | 654.5455 |
| 556 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 654.9336 | And uh, his daddy was name /RD-NAME-2/. | 656.6356 |
| 557 | PRV_int_01 | 657.1753 | /Really/ that'd be your great grandfather. | 658.5480 |
| 558 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 658.9456 | Yeah, it was great [granddad yeah.] | 660.0201 |
| 559 | PRV_int_01 | 659.5893 | [Oh it was /RD-NAME-2/, [okay.] | 660.7590 |
| 560 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 660.6117 | [Uh-huh.] | 660.9762 |
| 561 | | 661.3549 | Yep. | 661.6484 |
| 562 | PRV_int_01 | 661.7336 | Do you- did- did- did- | 663.1563 |
| 564 | | 663.8569 | do you uh, remember or were you told much about | 666.1678 |
| 566 | | 666.6212 | /RD-NAME-2/? | 667.1513 |
| 568 | | 667.7430 | Know what he did or? | 668.9291 |
| 569 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 668.9291 | Uh, | 669.8616 |
| 570 | | 670.8083 | /RD-NAME-2/ | 671.6414 |
| 572 | | 672.9147 | and- and uh, Uncle /RD-NAME-1/, which was my great, great, great uncle, | 676.4296 |
| 573 | PRV_int_01 | 676.4912 | Okay. | 676.9172 |
| 574 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 677.3526 | they would, um, | 678.6875 |
| 576 | | 679.2413 | have this property | 680.3442 |
| 578 | | 680.7114 | adjacent | 681.4403 |
| 580 | | 682.4154 | to | 682.9124 |
| 582 | | 684.0106 | Princeville old school. | 685.2744 |
| 583 | PRV_int_01 | 685.5490 | Okay. | 685.9229 |
| 584 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 686.0838 | Him and uh, | 687.2510 |
| 586 | | 688.5527 | I think it was Miss /RD-NAME-4/, | 690.2709 |
| 587 | PRV_int_01 | 690.6449 | [Mm-hm.] | 690.9289 |
| 588 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 690.7585 | [which was] um, my great uncle's | 692.7500 |
| 589 | | 693.3457 | uh, wife of course. | 694.5858 |
| 590 | PRV_int_01 | 694.6284 | Mm-hm. | 694.9929 |
| 591 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 695.3006 | Uh, I used to go over there and eat | 696.6401 |
| 593 | | 697.1419 | uh, during lunch time. | 698.4010 |
| 594 | PRV_int_01 | 698.4984 | [Okay.] | 699.0759 |
| 595 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 698.7587 | [Yeah.] | 699.0617 |
| 596 | | 699.4924 | So and | 700.2261 |
| 598 | | 700.5527 | the story that I used to hear about | 702.1005 |
| 600 | | 702.4319 | that- that, | 703.1608 |
| 602 | | 704.5741 | great granddaddy | 705.6060 |
| 604 | | 706.2829 | um, | 706.9598 |
| 606 | | 707.6130 | was one of the few that got the forty acres | 709.9892 |
| 607 | PRV_int_01 | 710.2448 | Oh really? | 710.7500 |
| 608 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 710.7824 | and the mule. | 711.4261 |
| 609 | PRV_int_01 | 711.5019 | Really? | 711.7859 |
| 610 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 711.9326 | Yeah. | 712.3208 |
| 611 | PRV_int_01 | 712.4107 | Okay. | 712.8272 |
| 612 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 712.8793 | Yep. | 713.1112 |
| 613 | PRV_int_01 | 713.9213 | He got reparations | 715.1561 |
| 615 | | 715.4117 | after slavery. | 716.2684 |
| 616 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 716.9339 | It- Well, so it- what- what they were called reparations. | 719.7502 |
| 617 | PRV_int_01 | 719.7644 | Right. | 720.0437 |
| 618 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 720.1195 | Yeah. | 720.4082 |
| 620 | | 721.0425 | As a- as appreciation of- | 722.7161 |
| 622 | | 723.2131 | of the abuse or the- the f- the free slave labor. | 725.9775 |
| 623 | PRV_int_01 | 726.1005 | Mm. | 726.2946 |
| 624 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 726.2662 | So you familiar with reparation? | 727.6389 |
| 625 | PRV_int_01 | 727.9892 | Yes. | 728.5382 |
| 627 | | 729.8379 | Little bit. | 730.3397 |
| 628 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 730.3681 | NCOBRA? | 731.0308 |
| 629 | PRV_int_01 | 731.8355 | Uh, | 732.1905 |
| 631 | | 732.3893 | s- | 732.5833 |
| 632 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 732.6070 | N'- | 732.7585 |
| 634 | | 732.9951 | You familiar with NCOBRA? | 734.0866 |
| 635 | PRV_int_01 | 734.0629 | No. | 734.3848 |
| 636 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 734.8487 | Okay. | 735.1549 |
| 638 | | 735.4167 | That's the acronym [for] the National Coalition | 737.9443 |
| 639 | PRV_int_01 | 736.5006 | [O-] | 736.6805 |
| 640 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 738.5928 | of Reparation. | 739.5537 |
| 641 | PRV_int_01 | 739.5395 | Oh really? | 739.9513 |
| 642 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 739.9324 | Yeah. | 740.2328 |
| 643 | PRV_int_01 | 740.1690 | Okay. | 740.4057 |
| 644 | | 741.9468 | [And then what-] tell me about that. What is- | 743.7360 |
| 645 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 742.0462 | [Yeah.] | 742.5338 |
| 646 | PRV_int_01 | 743.9491 | was- was- | 744.5881 |
| 648 | | 745.0993 | that started right after slavery or? | 747.2226 |
| 649 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 748.0083 | NCOBRA? | 748.5338 |
| 650 | PRV_int_01 | 748.6237 | Mm-hm. | 749.0592 |
| 651 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 749.2722 | [No, it- it-] | 750.2378 |
| 652 | PRV_int_01 | 749.5325 | [That's the current] organization? | 750.9904 |
| 653 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 750.6685 | That's the current [organization that's] pushing uh, the uh, HR bill | 754.7562 |
| 654 | PRV_int_01 | 751.8452 | [Okay.] | 752.1718 |
| 655 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 755.3148 | forty. | 755.8430 |
| 656 | PRV_int_01 | 756.0059 | Okay. | 756.4319 |
| 657 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 756.4981 | Yeah. | 756.7632 |
| 659 | | 757.3786 | And, um, | 758.2779 |
| 661 | | 758.9907 | they're trying to get um, Congress to um- | 761.5609 |
| 663 | | 762.7348 | to do a study | 763.5417 |
| 664 | PRV_int_01 | 763.6720 | Mm-hm. | 764.0649 |
| 665 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 764.4747 | on uh- on slavery. | 765.8805 |
| 666 | PRV_int_01 | 766.0841 | Okay. | 766.4391 |
| 667 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 766.4580 | And uh, the post trauma | 768.0437 |
| 669 | | 768.9762 | and how it um- | 770.1832 |
| 671 | | 771.7007 | how it would effect- | 772.7799 |
| 673 | | 774.4650 | the people | 775.0141 |
| 675 | | 775.3123 | as a whole. | 775.9797 |
| 676 | PRV_int_01 | 776.3469 | Uh-huh. | 776.7067 |
| 677 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 777.0333 | And um, | 777.8853 |
| 679 | | 779.1728 | and we- you- and you'd be surprised how many, um, | 781.6768 |
| 681 | | 782.9433 | Caucasian supporters- I call 'em my Caucasian [brothers-] | 785.8544 |
| 682 | PRV_int_01 | 785.5846 | [<laugh>] Right? | 786.2236 |
| 683 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 786.5881 | uh, are sympathetic | 787.8330 |
| 684 | PRV_int_01 | 788.0629 | Sure. | 788.3658 |
| 685 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 788.7635 | and can see | 790.0415 |
| 686 | PRV_int_01 | 790.3160 | Mm-hm. | 790.6142 |
| 687 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 791.0213 | that, um, | 792.0911 |
| 689 | | 793.2223 | that's part of the healing process. | 794.7500 |
| 690 | PRV_int_01 | 794.8155 | Okay. | 795.1232 |
| 691 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 795.2557 | Not necessarily to | 796.4959 |
| 693 | | 796.9976 | give us | 797.8970 |
| 695 | | 798.4129 | trillions of dollars | 799.6058 |
| 697 | | 799.9513 | but to acknowledge that a great wrong has been done, | 802.7089 |
| 698 | PRV_int_01 | 802.7610 | Mm-hm. | 803.1254 |
| 699 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 803.0876 | and something needs to be done to correct that because | 806.1738 |
| 700 | | 806.7635 | as long as you keep ignoring, um, | 809.1018 |
| 702 | | 810.2709 | the situation, | 811.1371 |
| 704 | | 811.8566 | and it continues to, um, | 813.8237 |
| 706 | | 814.4344 | fester, | 815.0734 |
| 707 | PRV_int_01 | 815.2580 | Mm-hm. | 815.6603 |
| 708 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 816.5313 | and um, it- it- it doesn't do the two | 818.9386 |
| 710 | | 819.4829 | injured parties- | 820.4060 |
| 712 | | 820.8935 | the oppressed is just as much, uh, injured as | 823.9655 |
| 714 | | 824.4747 | the suppressor. | 825.2273 |
| 715 | PRV_int_01 | 825.3551 | Yeah. | 825.5823 |
| 716 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 825.8521 | Yep. | 826.1219 |
| 717 | PRV_int_01 | 826.1030 | Mm-hm. | 826.4486 |
| 718 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 826.7326 | And uh, | 827.5846 |
| 720 | | 827.9159 | so that's what we're trying to do. I'm a member of NCOBRA. | 830.0223 |
| 721 | PRV_int_01 | 830.2448 | Okay. | 830.5240 |
| 722 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 830.7919 | And uh, been supportive. | 832.0983 |
| 724 | | 832.4249 | As a matter of fact, I would bring the, um- | 834.6259 |
| 726 | | 836.0223 | the national board here | 837.2605 |
| 728 | | 838.2782 | and uh, | 839.1349 |
| 730 | | 839.3905 | a retreat. | 840.2094 |
| 732 | | 840.7963 | And we would go on the- on the | 842.2400 |
| 734 | | 842.5173 | banks of Tar River, | 843.7338 |
| 735 | PRV_int_01 | 843.8758 | Mkay. | 844.2734 |
| 736 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 844.3586 | and I would show them, uh- | 845.4899 |
| 738 | | 845.6414 | talk, you know, a little bit of the history about | 847.1135 |
| 740 | | 847.7620 | the area and | 848.9765 |
| 742 | | 849.3362 | how- where I was baptized. | 850.7042 |
| 743 | PRV_int_01 | 850.9219 | Mm-hm. | 851.2580 |
| 744 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 851.5183 | But they would come down and um, | 853.2555 |
| 746 | | 854.3327 | spend | 854.9797 |
| 748 | | 855.8143 | about maybe | 856.5527 |
| 750 | | 857.7597 | two or three days here. | 858.7348 |
| 751 | PRV_int_01 | 858.9620 | Really. | 859.2649 |
| 752 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 859.4448 | Yeah. | 859.7241 |
| 753 | PRV_int_01 | 860.1481 | When was this? | 860.7540 |
| 754 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 861.0096 | This was um- | 862.0320 |
| 756 | | 862.9172 | I got that- | 863.4615 |
| 758 | | 863.7455 | I got some publications on that somewhere. | 865.7762 |
| 760 | | 866.7682 | So it musta been | 867.5681 |
| 762 | | 868.5243 | two thousand and | 869.6272 |
| 764 | | 870.9973 | t- two. | 871.5889 |
| 765 | PRV_int_01 | 871.8303 | Okay. | 872.1712 |
| 766 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 872.2611 | Yeah, the summer two thousand and two. | 873.9631 |
| 768 | | 874.5548 | Yep. | 874.7915 |
| 769 | PRV_int_01 | 875.9370 | And they were interested in the area just as- | 878.0717 |
| 770 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 878.9569 | Well I had invited 'em to come down because of the uh- the historical significance of it being the oldest, | 884.6871 |
| 772 | | 885.1557 | uh, | 885.5000 |
| 774 | | 885.9111 | settlement | 886.5075 |
| 776 | | 886.7489 | uh, by African Americans. | 888.0506 |
| 777 | PRV_int_01 | 888.1074 | Mm-hm. | 888.4387 |
| 778 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 888.5192 | And I thought it would be a good place for them to come and- | 890.6398 |
| 780 | | 891.1300 | and see, | 891.6555 |
| 782 | | 892.2803 | um, | 892.8767 |
| 784 | | 894.0032 | what- | 894.2115 |
| 786 | | 894.6044 | what progress | 895.5842 |
| 788 | | 896.3605 | hasn't been made and what progress has been [made.] | 899.0897 |
| 789 | PRV_int_01 | 898.8956 | [Mm-hm.] | 899.2696 |
| 790 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 899.6672 | And uh, | 900.4908 |
| 792 | | 901.4043 | and- but they came down and kept low /keyed/ and they had their meetings and stuff and- | 905.3548 |
| 793 | PRV_int_01 | 905.7666 | Okay. | 906.2068 |
| 794 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 906.3440 | and would get a new strategies. | 908.1049 |
| 796 | | 908.6208 | Well we would t- we were having a hard time, | 910.6400 |
| 797 | PRV_int_01 | 910.9903 | Really? | 911.2601 |
| 798 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 911.2696 | um, | 911.9322 |
| 800 | | 912.9073 | tryna get | 913.5369 |
| 802 | | 915.1253 | the Congress, the | 916.3371 |
| 804 | | 916.5122 | presidential candidates, | 917.9559 |
| 806 | | 918.4482 | and anybody else that | 919.6363 |
| 808 | | 919.9297 | wanted to use our votes | 921.2646 |
| 810 | | 922.0247 | to um- | 922.6542 |
| 812 | | 923.5252 | to recognize | 924.5002 |
| 814 | | 925.2387 | uh, what we wanted. | 926.4410 |
| 815 | PRV_int_01 | 926.5830 | Mm-hm. | 926.8954 |
| 816 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 927.3430 | And um, | 928.0815 |
| 818 | | 928.5643 | Texas- | 929.2506 |
| 820 | | 929.7476 | we- we- we've got um, | 931.1961 |
| 822 | | 931.8729 | I think it's about | 932.8176 |
| 824 | | 934.6211 | maybe ten- | 935.5252 |
| 826 | | 937.0209 | ten states that are interested in | 939.2740 |
| 828 | | 940.9003 | helping us /ecstablish/ a commission | 942.8742 |
| 830 | | 943.1203 | to study | 943.7593 |
| 832 | | 945.3383 | the post- | 945.8495 |
| 834 | | 946.8814 | /or as it's called/ | 947.5772 |
| 836 | | 947.9890 | post slavery trauma. | 949.0446 |
| 837 | PRV_int_01 | 949.1582 | Mm-hm. | 949.6173 |
| 838 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 950.0670 | And um, | 950.8622 |
| 840 | | 952.7441 | you know. | 953.1039 |
| 842 | | 953.3264 | So, | 953.6719 |
| 844 | | 954.3298 | w- w- we'll get there | 955.6599 |
| 846 | | 956.4694 | and this H two- H forty bill is a bill that would be introduced by, uh, | 960.2494 |
| 848 | | 960.5855 | Congressman John Conyers, | 962.1049 |
| 849 | PRV_int_01 | 962.4200 | Okay. | 962.8129 |
| 850 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 962.8555 | out of uh, Michigan. | 963.8827 |
| 851 | PRV_int_01 | 964.1525 | [Okay.] | 964.4933 |
| 852 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 964.3844 | [Yep.] | 964.6258 |
| 853 | | 965.6956 | And uh, this week- | 966.8742 |
| 855 | | 967.8540 | today is the eighteenth? | 968.9096 |
| 856 | PRV_int_01 | 969.4756 | I believe so, yeah. | 970.2215 |
| 857 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 970.4885 | This week they're having a conference, uh, in Washington DC | 973.6869 |
| 859 | | 974.2544 | for three or four days | 975.4898 |
| 861 | | 975.9111 | um, | 976.5974 |
| 863 | | 978.0269 | to discuss | 978.8174 |
| 865 | | 979.5747 | things and | 980.3037 |
| 867 | | 982.0436 | you know /recall/ | 982.9714 |
| 869 | | 983.6151 | strategies | 984.3724 |
| 870 | PRV_int_01 | 984.5192 | Mm-hm. | 984.7937 |
| 871 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 984.7417 | of the best way to- | 985.7025 |
| 872 | | 986.2280 | to present it without | 987.3024 |
| 874 | | 988.0247 | um, | 988.6353 |
| 876 | | 990.5902 | l- f- u- looking- looking like a threat. | 992.7155 |
| 878 | | 992.8670 | We just want people to | 993.9963 |
| 880 | | 994.4270 | acknowledge the wrong and | 996.0600 |
| 882 | | 996.4766 | let's see if we can, um, | 997.9061 |
| 884 | | 998.5593 | do something correcting it because, | 1000.3986 |
| 885 | PRV_int_01 | 1000.6589 | Mm-hm. | 1000.9808 |
| 886 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1001.1086 | uh, I have, um, | 1002.2920 |
| 888 | | 1004.3084 | talked to kids about it. | 1005.5750 |
| 890 | | 1006.8435 | Uh, | 1007.3690 |
| 892 | | 1007.8849 | for instance their uh- | 1009.0257 |
| 894 | | 1010.4741 | their behavior, | 1011.4283 |
| 896 | | 1012.1335 | their psychological inheritance of, uh, | 1015.3286 |
| 898 | | 1015.7499 | not being all they can be | 1017.0326 |
| 899 | PRV_int_01 | 1017.1774 | Mm-hm. | 1017.4898 |
| 900 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1017.7927 | is um- | 1018.7347 |
| 902 | | 1019.6198 | is a result of being, | 1021.2339 |
| 904 | | 1022.2706 | uh, how do we say, uh, | 1023.6697 |
| 906 | | 1024.5122 | uh, descendants of | 1025.7760 |
| 908 | | 1026.0742 | Jim Crowism and racism. | 1027.4990 |
| 909 | PRV_int_01 | 1027.5889 | Hm. | 1027.8114 |
| 910 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1028.2043 | Yep. | 1028.4713 |
| 912 | | 1028.7155 | And uh, | 1029.3715 |
| 914 | | 1029.9158 | the only way you can | 1031.2506 |
| 916 | | 1031.4920 | purge this- | 1032.5192 |
| 918 | | 1033.6315 | this, um- | 1034.6066 |
| 920 | | 1037.0187 | this | 1037.3690 |
| 922 | | 1037.6009 | uh- defect | 1038.5665 |
| 924 | | 1038.7180 | is to start with the children, | 1040.1617 |
| 926 | | 1040.6851 | and you have to educate | 1041.7785 |
| 927 | PRV_int_01 | 1042.3229 | Mm-hm. | 1042.6116 |
| 928 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1042.9524 | that seed | 1043.6719 |
| 930 | | 1045.1298 | because as quiet as it's being kept, | 1046.9948 |
| 932 | | 1049.0045 | if you have that- let's say that old oak tree out there, | 1052.1002 |
| 933 | PRV_int_01 | 1052.3179 | Mm-hm. | 1052.6776 |
| 934 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1053.4377 | as old /that it/- as it is- | 1055.1465 |
| 936 | | 1056.6328 | This is an analogy. | 1057.6883 |
| 937 | PRV_int_01 | 1057.8729 | Mm-hm. | 1058.2800 |
| 938 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1059.0969 | If you don't uh, nurture it, | 1061.3264 |
| 940 | | 1062.5476 | uh, | 1063.1156 |
| 942 | | 1063.3665 | take care of it, | 1064.0007 |
| 944 | | 1064.6303 | it will still produce | 1065.9868 |
| 946 | | 1066.6258 | um, | 1067.1844 |
| 948 | | 1068.0884 | a small defected | 1069.7357 |
| 950 | | 1070.1380 | /acron/. | 1070.5924 |
| 951 | PRV_int_01 | 1070.7865 | Mm-hm. | 1071.2125 |
| 952 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1071.6839 | So what you have to do, you have to take that /acron/ | 1073.3595 |
| 954 | | 1074.3630 | as a seed- seedling | 1075.8256 |
| 956 | | 1076.2185 | and nourish that | 1077.2314 |
| 958 | | 1078.2897 | and get rid of all the uh- it's called biogenics- | 1081.5842 |
| 959 | PRV_int_01 | 1081.8824 | Mm-hm. | 1082.2280 |
| 960 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1082.3984 | uh- | 1082.8338 |
| 962 | | 1083.0590 | that would effect us and w- and human beings are the same way. | 1085.8186 |
| 963 | PRV_int_01 | 1085.9370 | Mm. | 1086.2257 |
| 964 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1086.4292 | For instance, um, as great as my little home town is here, | 1089.7359 |
| 966 | | 1090.1477 | we were still uh, effected | 1091.8234 |
| 968 | | 1092.0364 | because | 1092.4908 |
| 970 | | 1093.8398 | the healing process has not been taken seriously | 1096.5075 |
| 971 | PRV_int_01 | 1096.6684 | Hm. | 1096.9335 |
| 972 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1097.2222 | and so that's we're /asting/ | 1098.5476 |
| 974 | | 1098.9073 | m- mainly, you know, | 1100.1049 |
| 976 | | 1100.2800 | through reparation, | 1101.1368 |
| 978 | | 1101.5040 | is to um, | 1102.3513 |
| 980 | | 1103.2317 | do something for the children | 1105.0304 |
| 982 | | 1105.3949 | uh, for the next generation. | 1106.7060 |
| 984 | | 1107.1537 | Start some programs, | 1108.5169 |
| 986 | | 1109.0045 | uh, set some programs in place, | 1110.9026 |
| 988 | | 1111.4611 | where | 1111.7830 |
| 990 | | 1112.2422 | all the kids will be- | 1113.6365 |
| 992 | | 1114.5974 | It'll be mandatory or guaranteed | 1116.5144 |
| 994 | | 1117.0257 | to get an education because if you don't educate that seed, if you don't nurture that seed on the tree, | 1121.3169 |
| 995 | PRV_int_01 | 1121.3974 | Mm-hm. | 1121.8565 |
| 996 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1121.9133 | it's gonna produce the same | 1123.1961 |
| 998 | | 1123.7735 | um, | 1124.3321 |
| 1000 | | 1124.8149 | and so this is what you see- I call that apathy. | 1126.9808 |
| 1001 | PRV_int_01 | 1127.3500 | Mm-hm. | 1127.6293 |
| 1002 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1127.5583 | Um, here- /???/- | 1129.1156 |
| 1003 | | 1129.3712 | is one of the chief reasons why Princeville | 1131.1557 |
| 1005 | | 1131.9584 | can't um, | 1132.6873 |
| 1007 | | 1133.1228 | move forward. | 1133.9370 |
| 1008 | PRV_int_01 | 1133.9796 | Hm. | 1134.2541 |
| 1009 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1134.6517 | The stagnation is still- | 1136.0859 |
| 1011 | | 1136.7818 | is still here. | 1137.4425 |
| 1013 | | 1138.1430 | And some folks | 1139.1465 |
| 1015 | | 1139.3264 | know about it and some folks don't, | 1140.7606 |
| 1017 | | 1141.6031 | but um, | 1142.1286 |
| 1019 | | 1142.2611 | I have to be | 1142.9711 |
| 1021 | | 1144.2187 | sort of | 1144.7820 |
| 1023 | | 1146.5523 | precarious about | 1147.4706 |
| 1025 | | 1147.9865 | how I say it. | 1148.9644 |
| 1026 | PRV_int_01 | 1149.3288 | Mm-hm. | 1149.6602 |
| 1027 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1150.0483 | Because once again, you know, | 1151.2601 |
| 1029 | | 1151.6956 | I'm an- I'm- I'm aware that I'm of a minority. | 1154.6492 |
| 1030 | PRV_int_01 | 1154.9265 | Hm. | 1155.1726 |
| 1031 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1155.2578 | And uh, | 1155.7738 |
| 1033 | | 1156.3465 | and you just have to be careful how you say what you say. | 1159.0020 |
| 1035 | | 1159.7262 | But hoping that you can appeal | 1161.1273 |
| 1037 | | 1161.8259 | to the, um, | 1162.5785 |
| 1039 | | 1162.9240 | to the goodness- | 1163.5441 |
| 1041 | | 1163.7334 | the goodness of man, | 1164.7843 |
| 1043 | | 1165.1582 | of those that listen to it and say yes, it is time. | 1167.6271 |
| 1044 | PRV_int_01 | 1167.8022 | Mm-hm. | 1168.1241 |
| 1045 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1168.2850 | It's long overdue, | 1169.1039 |
| 1046 | PRV_int_01 | 1169.6766 | Mm. | 1169.9086 |
| 1047 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1169.8470 | that something should be | 1170.8979 |
| 1048 | | 1171.4327 | done. | 1171.8540 |
| 1050 | | 1172.0575 | And once again, not necessarily, um, | 1173.8543 |
| 1052 | | 1174.6495 | monetary. | 1175.3027 |
| 1053 | PRV_int_01 | 1175.4684 | Mm-hm. | 1175.7713 |
| 1054 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1175.8376 | But programs that could help, um, | 1177.6599 |
| 1056 | | 1178.7486 | help- help set- set- set things sort of | 1180.8672 |
| 1058 | | 1181.1796 | in a- in a balance. | 1182.4198 |
| 1059 | PRV_int_01 | 1182.5192 | Mm-hm. | 1182.9215 |
| 1060 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1182.8695 | Yep. | 1183.1014 |
| 1061 | PRV_int_01 | 1183.8209 | Okay. | 1184.2232 |
| 1063 | | 1185.0354 | So you see | 1185.7691 |
| 1065 | | 1186.7299 | uh, | 1187.2459 |
| 1067 | | 1187.9985 | the affects of that | 1188.9925 |
| 1069 | | 1189.4990 | kind of | 1190.0291 |
| 1071 | | 1191.1557 | lack of healing, | 1191.9963 |
| 1072 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1192.4131 | [Mm-hm.] | 1192.7909 |
| 1073 | PRV_int_01 | 1192.6353 | [still-] still kind of | 1193.6624 |
| 1074 | | 1194.0222 | kind of continuing in the- in the area. | 1195.9534 |
| 1075 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1196.1854 | Mm-hm. | 1196.5924 |
| 1076 | PRV_int_01 | 1196.7277 | Okay. | 1197.1064 |
| 1077 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1197.2247 | Yeah. | 1197.5371 |
| 1078 | PRV_int_01 | 1197.6602 | And then, you're saying | 1198.7205 |
| 1080 | | 1199.5441 | <ts> you're a minority in the sense of | 1201.2860 |
| 1082 | | 1201.6789 | your ideas | 1202.6303 |
| 1084 | | 1202.8149 | are not | 1203.4093 |
| 1085 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1204.5169 | [They're-] | 1204.8719 |
| 1086 | PRV_int_01 | 1204.6116 | [popular] yet [or?] | 1205.9322 |
| 1087 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1205.5867 | [They're not] popular. Even though | 1206.9831 |
| 1088 | | 1207.5747 | people know, | 1208.3605 |
| 1090 | | 1209.7880 | um, | 1210.4128 |
| 1092 | | 1210.6921 | those that um- | 1211.7003 |
| 1094 | | 1213.2671 | how do we say um, | 1214.6492 |
| 1096 | | 1214.9048 | that are concerned- | 1215.8307 |
| 1098 | | 1217.0755 | they know that there's uh, an existing problem but | 1219.9345 |
| 1100 | | 1221.7880 | they- | 1222.3418 |
| 1102 | | 1222.6021 | they won't | 1223.1512 |
| 1104 | | 1223.3216 | speak up | 1223.9228 |
| 1106 | | 1224.0979 | or won't stand up and say anything about it. | 1226.1996 |
| 1108 | | 1226.6587 | E- and even though | 1227.6744 |
| 1110 | | 1227.8921 | I have some very good white friends too, | 1230.0648 |
| 1112 | | 1230.5476 | now | 1230.9357 |
| 1114 | | 1231.3854 | they won't say anything about it | 1233.1415 |
| 1115 | PRV_int_01 | 1233.3052 | Mm-hm. | 1233.6697 |
| 1116 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1233.8164 | because | 1234.4128 |
| 1118 | | 1235.3595 | I don't think they really want to revisit | 1237.1014 |
| 1120 | | 1237.8635 | the ugly [past.] | 1238.8386 |
| 1121 | PRV_int_01 | 1238.5952 | [Mm-hm.] | 1239.0354 |
| 1122 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1239.3288 | But at the same time, they need to be gently | 1241.7334 |
| 1124 | | 1243.0399 | awakened to say well, the only way | 1245.2835 |
| 1126 | | 1246.1998 | we can get past that | 1247.4684 |
| 1128 | | 1247.7524 | is to | 1248.3677 |
| 1130 | | 1249.0304 | address it | 1249.5321 |
| 1131 | PRV_int_01 | 1249.7735 | Mm-hm. | 1250.0765 |
| 1132 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1250.2165 | and go from there. | 1251.5324 |
| 1133 | PRV_int_01 | 1251.6933 | Mm-hm. | 1252.0152 |
| 1134 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1252.3844 | W- | 1252.5264 |
| 1136 | | 1252.7347 | w- you know, you know, [so.] | 1254.0837 |
| 1137 | PRV_int_01 | 1253.7240 | [Yeah.] | 1254.0458 |
| 1138 | | 1255.7309 | Now i- uh- you know, we were looking at a book here on Edgecombe County, | 1259.2128 |
| 1139 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1259.3500 | Mm-hm. | 1259.7098 |
| 1140 | PRV_int_01 | 1259.9275 | what | 1260.1405 |
| 1142 | | 1260.3251 | can you | 1260.7511 |
| 1144 | | 1260.8931 | tell me or do you know about the history of slavery in- | 1264.0700 |
| 1146 | | 1264.3607 | in this area? | 1264.9903 |
| 1147 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1266.3346 | Well, | 1266.8931 |
| 1149 | | 1267.1061 | this place, from what I've been told, um, | 1269.8732 |
| 1151 | | 1270.4128 | f- w- was first called Freedom Hill | 1272.1594 |
| 1153 | | 1272.9783 | and um, | 1273.9534 |
| 1155 | | 1275.0401 | I can imagine my great great grandparents were part of those um, | 1279.5037 |
| 1157 | | 1279.7735 | first freed um, | 1280.8528 |
| 1159 | | 1281.8495 | slaves that would settle here. | 1283.4778 |
| 1160 | PRV_int_01 | 1283.9938 | Now was that /RD-NAME-2/? | 1285.0493 |
| 1162 | | 1285.2434 | [Or?] | 1285.5700 |
| 1163 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1285.3097 | [Yeah] it was /RD-NAME-2/, and it was probably his um- | 1287.5608 |
| 1164 | | 1288.2282 | his dad, | 1288.8293 |
| 1166 | | 1289.5772 | or maybe him too. | 1290.5997 |
| 1168 | | 1291.3996 | But uh, | 1291.9439 |
| 1170 | | 1292.9948 | all around | 1294.0010 |
| 1172 | | 1294.2803 | uh, Edgecombe County, Nash County, | 1296.0932 |
| 1174 | | 1297.1014 | it was a | 1297.8256 |
| 1176 | | 1298.4173 | chief cotton and tobacco, | 1300.4791 |
| 1178 | | 1301.6435 | corn and peanuts | 1302.6044 |
| 1180 | | 1303.1440 | and uh, that was their crop | 1304.4173 |
| 1181 | PRV_int_01 | 1304.7750 | Mm-hm. | 1305.1158 |
| 1182 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1305.1206 | and so they were getting the free slave labor but they uh, were emancipated, | 1309.5416 |
| 1184 | | 1310.2280 | they needed a place | 1311.3545 |
| 1186 | | 1312.5311 | to um, | 1313.3216 |
| 1188 | | 1313.9701 | we call herd- | 1314.7322 |
| 1190 | | 1314.9925 | to- to put 'em. | 1315.6694 |
| 1191 | PRV_int_01 | 1316.2658 | Mm-hm. | 1316.7108 |
| 1192 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1316.6378 | And | 1317.1679 |
| 1193 | | 1317.8874 | the Union soldiers were camped over here, | 1320.2304 |
| 1194 | PRV_int_01 | 1320.2541 | Mm-hm. | 1320.6186 |
| 1195 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1321.1298 | uh, | 1321.6836 |
| 1197 | | 1322.1238 | and so | 1322.6729 |
| 1199 | | 1323.5845 | all of a sudden I guess someone | 1325.7524 |
| 1201 | | 1326.3346 | assigned, said well, | 1327.4091 |
| 1203 | | 1328.1428 | that's a safe haven for them because | 1330.2093 |
| 1205 | | 1330.4933 | Jim Crowism was still | 1332.1405 |
| 1207 | | 1332.3677 | going on- | 1333.1345 |
| 1209 | | 1333.4753 | that the- some of the southerners | 1334.9569 |
| 1211 | | 1335.1442 | just was bitter about | 1336.6495 |
| 1213 | | 1337.1844 | taking their free- | 1338.0600 |
| 1215 | | 1338.3346 | free slave labor away from 'em. | 1339.8209 |
| 1216 | PRV_int_01 | 1339.8256 | Mm-hm. | 1340.2848 |
| 1217 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1340.6303 | And uh, but they would come over here and this would become | 1344.0837 |
| 1219 | | 1344.8127 | um, | 1345.4327 |
| 1221 | | 1346.6871 | an important route in the Underground Railroad. | 1349.0045 |
| 1222 | PRV_int_01 | 1349.0944 | Hm. | 1349.3453 |
| 1223 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1349.5204 | Freedom Hill. | 1350.0458 |
| 1224 | PRV_int_01 | 1350.3014 | Really. | 1350.5699 |
| 1225 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1350.5381 | /?/ the- the- the slaves | 1352.3226 |
| 1226 | | 1352.7202 | uh, running from | 1353.9158 |
| 1228 | | 1354.0957 | the south | 1354.8767 |
| 1230 | | 1355.3548 | as far as uh, Georgia and South Carolina, | 1358.0244 |
| 1232 | | 1358.8413 | hoping they would find refuge and safety by going North. | 1361.9701 |
| 1234 | | 1362.3819 | Well Freedom Hill was, um- | 1364.0433 |
| 1236 | | 1364.3747 | was a spot that they would achieve to come. | 1366.3323 |
| 1237 | PRV_int_01 | 1366.7157 | [Hm.] | 1366.9666 |
| 1238 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1366.7441 | [And so] at one time, | 1367.8186 |
| 1239 | | 1368.0032 | I think they had about fifteen | 1369.3854 |
| 1241 | | 1370.2043 | hundred to two thousand people here at one time. | 1372.4365 |
| 1242 | PRV_int_01 | 1372.7347 | Wow. | 1372.9901 |
| 1243 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1373.0566 | Yeah. | 1373.3690 |
| 1245 | | 1373.5867 | Of free slaves. | 1374.5002 |
| 1246 | PRV_int_01 | 1374.9215 | Okay. | 1375.3712 |
| 1247 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1375.4848 | And um, you had educators, | 1377.5000 |
| 1249 | | 1378.3039 | uh, that would come in, uh, Doctor /RD-NAME-2/, | 1381.6268 |
| 1251 | | 1382.2138 | who was a Jamaican, | 1383.0705 |
| 1253 | | 1383.9253 | he would be the first one to set up a | 1386.1026 |
| 1255 | | 1386.3630 | school here. | 1387.1487 |
| 1256 | PRV_int_01 | 1387.5463 | Mm-hm. | 1387.9297 |
| 1257 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1387.9439 | I think it's was a | 1388.8433 |
| 1259 | | 1389.3998 | four room | 1390.1525 |
| 1261 | | 1390.3749 | school. | 1390.8814 |
| 1262 | PRV_int_01 | 1391.3406 | Mm-hm. | 1391.6861 |
| 1263 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1392.0080 | Yep, and | 1393.0399 |
| 1265 | | 1394.3463 | I- I don't know exactly where that was, | 1396.5027 |
| 1267 | | 1396.9382 | but I- | 1397.2743 |
| 1269 | | 1397.4494 | it's been told that um, | 1398.9878 |
| 1271 | | 1400.5782 | /RD-NAME-2/ or either | 1401.6223 |
| 1273 | | 1401.8874 | /RD-NAME-3/ and them, | 1402.9998 |
| 1275 | | 1403.6151 | uh, would donate | 1405.0446 |
| 1277 | | 1405.5369 | that land | 1406.4031 |
| 1279 | | 1407.6933 | where the original school- | 1408.9808 |
| 1281 | | 1409.5583 | the school that I went to | 1410.5381 |
| 1282 | PRV_int_01 | 1410.5760 | Okay. | 1410.9263 |
| 1283 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1410.9405 | back in nineteen forty six. | 1412.1333 |
| 1284 | PRV_int_01 | 1412.6756 | [You mean] the old town hall over there? | 1414.2282 |
| 1285 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1412.6776 | [Yeah.] | 1412.9238 |
| 1287 | | 1414.1951 | Uh-huh. | 1414.6353 |
| 1288 | PRV_int_01 | 1414.5311 | Okay. | 1414.9051 |
| 1289 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1414.8814 | Yep. | 1415.1607 |
| 1290 | | 1415.8234 | Yep. | 1416.1074 |
| 1292 | | 1416.3014 | And mama- think my mom would go there, | 1418.4788 |
| 1294 | | 1419.6981 | my dad would go | 1420.7441 |
| 1296 | | 1420.9808 | to that school, | 1421.7902 |
| 1298 | | 1423.0967 | and they were born in fifteen and sixteen- nineteen fifteen, nineteen f- nineteen sixteen. | 1426.8483 |
| 1300 | | 1427.7240 | And um, | 1428.5334 |
| 1302 | | 1429.0777 | so it's been around. | 1429.9013 |
| 1303 | PRV_int_01 | 1430.0717 | Yeah. | 1430.3274 |
| 1304 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1430.3794 | Yep. | 1430.5924 |
| 1305 | PRV_int_01 | 1431.5135 | Now you- you said you thi- you- it- | 1433.4021 |
| 1307 | | 1433.7950 | it's likely that /RD-NAME-2/ and your Uncle | 1436.2895 |
| 1309 | | 1436.6587 | /RD-NAME-1/ were former slaves? | 1438.6637 |
| 1310 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1438.8151 | Mm-hm. | 1439.1891 |
| 1311 | PRV_int_01 | 1439.5015 | And then, | 1439.9654 |
| 1312 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1440.2352 | Yeah. | 1440.4955 |
| 1313 | PRV_int_01 | 1440.4387 | they received | 1441.3333 |
| 1314 | | 1441.8540 | s- some | 1442.5782 |
| 1316 | | 1442.8054 | land after that. | 1443.9631 |
| 1317 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1444.0389 | Right. | 1444.5311 |
| 1318 | PRV_int_01 | 1444.6305 | And that was the location that | 1446.2825 |
| 1320 | | 1446.5002 | the old town hall and uh, | 1448.2516 |
| 1322 | | 1448.5877 | I guess what used to be /RD-NAME-2/'s store? | 1450.3371 |
| 1323 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1450.4270 | Right. | 1450.7063 |
| 1324 | PRV_int_01 | 1451.1512 | That was their- their land at one point. | 1453.0209 |
| 1325 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1453.0777 | Mm-hm. | 1453.5984 |
| 1326 | PRV_int_01 | 1453.5700 | Okay. | 1453.9250 |
| 1327 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1454.0575 | Yeah. | 1454.4173 |
| 1328 | PRV_int_01 | 1454.6188 | Now, | 1455.0090 |
| 1330 | | 1455.3762 | what did they do after slavery when- with that land? You said they had a- a store there? Or what- what were their- | 1460.7297 |
| 1331 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1461.3288 | Whatchu talk- Which- [What you talking about?] | 1462.5501 |
| 1332 | PRV_int_01 | 1462.0483 | [You thought you /either/- your great | 1463.5062 |
| 1333 | | 1463.8565 | uh, /RD-NAME-2/ or /?/? | 1465.3049 |
| 1334 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1464.9405 | [Well g-] granddaddy, | 1466.1191 |
| 1335 | | 1466.2800 | uh, /RD-NAME-1/ | 1467.2456 |
| 1337 | | 1468.0815 | um, | 1468.8625 |
| 1339 | | 1469.3216 | they would come in here from Rocky Mount, | 1471.2103 |
| 1341 | | 1472.0717 | the /RD-NAME-2/. | 1472.7486 |
| 1342 | PRV_int_01 | 1473.3572 | [Oh.] | 1473.5703 |
| 1343 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1473.4851 | [But] uh he would | 1474.4885 |
| 1344 | | 1474.9051 | work for the railroad. | 1476.1594 |
| 1345 | PRV_int_01 | 1476.6659 | Oh. | 1476.8316 |
| 1346 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1476.8363 | I don't know ex- I don't know what great granddaddy- what- what he did for a living, | 1480.3655 |
| 1348 | | 1481.2459 | whether he was a carpenter or farmer. | 1483.9108 |
| 1350 | | 1484.2800 | Coulda been a farmer. | 1485.1604 |
| 1351 | PRV_int_01 | 1485.3714 | Okay. | 1485.7549 |
| 1352 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1485.8827 | Yeah but uh, | 1486.7631 |
| 1354 | | 1487.5536 | granddaddy uh, /RD-NAME-1/, /RD-NAME-1/'s husband, | 1490.4788 |
| 1355 | PRV_int_01 | 1490.7439 | Mm-hm. | 1491.0658 |
| 1356 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1491.0354 | which is my granddaddy and grandmama. | 1492.5785 |
| 1357 | PRV_int_01 | 1492.8435 | Mm-hm. | 1493.1702 |
| 1358 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1493.1560 | Uh, I never did see him, but I saw my ma- | 1496.0859 |
| 1359 | | 1496.8244 | uh- granddaddy would die /for/ my father would be twelve years old, | 1500.1216 |
| 1360 | PRV_int_01 | 1500.2257 | Okay. | 1500.6943 |
| 1361 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1500.9594 | but uh, | 1501.5558 |
| 1363 | | 1501.7451 | I hear daddy talk about it, say that um- | 1503.7927 |
| 1365 | | 1504.3702 | that same uh, railroad track that runs | 1507.2150 |
| 1367 | | 1507.9297 | east and west | 1508.8812 |
| 1368 | PRV_int_01 | 1509.0969 | Mm-hm. | 1509.3714 |
| 1369 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1509.7312 | um, | 1510.3087 |
| 1371 | | 1511.1749 | used to stop | 1511.8612 |
| 1373 | | 1512.2730 | the- uh- | 1512.6233 |
| 1375 | | 1513.3428 | and would let him off there | 1514.8224 |
| 1377 | | 1515.4945 | coming from the roundhouse in uh- in Rocky Mount. | 1518.1926 |
| 1378 | PRV_int_01 | 1518.5949 | Mm-hm. | 1518.9783 |
| 1379 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1519.0493 | And uh, he used to | 1520.4457 |
| 1381 | | 1520.8555 | go meet him. | 1521.5576 |
| 1383 | | 1522.7124 | He could tell when he was coming or you hear the whistle and he would | 1525.5842 |
| 1385 | | 1525.9960 | go out there and wait | 1527.2788 |
| 1387 | | 1527.9111 | and- and walk and meet him. | 1529.5914 |
| 1388 | PRV_int_01 | 1529.8470 | Mm. | 1530.1736 |
| 1389 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1530.8742 | Yeah, I can- I can see him doing that. | 1533.0516 |
| 1390 | PRV_int_01 | 1533.0042 | Mm. | 1533.2788 |
| 1391 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1533.3904 | Yep. | 1533.5845 |
| 1393 | | 1533.7738 | As a- as a kid | 1534.6968 |
| 1395 | | 1534.9998 | going to meet his dad. | 1535.9417 |
| 1397 | | 1536.5807 | And he would walk us along that same track, my dad. | 1539.0184 |
| 1398 | PRV_int_01 | 1539.0874 | Really? | 1539.3714 |
| 1399 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1539.3904 | Yeah. | 1539.6034 |
| 1401 | | 1540.3276 | Yeah my daddy, well he would try to work for railroad but he said that work was just too hard for him, | 1544.8433 |
| 1403 | | 1545.4803 | and I think he said he lasted about a week. | 1547.8518 |
| 1404 | PRV_int_01 | 1548.4008 | Hm. | 1548.6233 |
| 1405 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1548.8837 | Yeah. | 1549.3049 |
| 1406 | PRV_int_01 | 1549.5842 | So your great | 1550.3226 |
| 1408 | | 1551.0638 | grandf- your father's father | 1552.7773 |
| 1409 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1552.9571 | Mm-hm. | 1553.4068 |
| 1410 | PRV_int_01 | 1553.4731 | worked for the railroad in Rocky Mount | 1555.1913 |
| 1411 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1555.3523 | Yeah, [the Atlantic] Coast L- | 1556.5593 |
| 1412 | PRV_int_01 | 1555.5179 | [and-] | 1555.7783 |
| 1413 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1556.9285 | [Atlantic Coast Line.] | 1557.7643 |
| 1414 | PRV_int_01 | 1557.1111 | [He would] commute | 1558.0625 |
| 1415 | | 1558.8435 | by the- | 1559.2412 |
| 1417 | | 1559.9275 | by the rail | 1560.6375 |
| 1419 | | 1560.9689 | from Princeville to- | 1562.1049 |
| 1421 | | 1562.1996 | [to Rocky-] | 1562.6303 |
| 1422 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1562.2658 | [To home-] | 1562.7250 |
| 1423 | | 1562.9096 | Uh-huh, yep. | 1563.3971 |
| 1424 | PRV_int_01 | 1563.5939 | Wow. | 1563.9063 |
| 1425 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1563.9395 | Yep. | 1564.1525 |
| 1427 | | 1564.6116 | They would drop- they would drop him off if he didn't drive or | 1567.2576 |
| 1429 | | 1567.6836 | he would catch the train on his way to Mildred or going out | 1571.1702 |
| 1430 | PRV_int_01 | 1571.4116 | Mm. | 1571.6293 |
| 1431 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1571.6340 | to Bethel or Williamston or whatever. | 1573.9013 |
| 1433 | | 1574.2516 | And they would uh- would stop | 1575.6507 |
| 1435 | | 1576.0294 | in uh, | 1576.6258 |
| 1437 | | 1576.8104 | freight- freight train | 1577.9843 |
| 1439 | | 1578.5476 | and let him off of. | 1579.5227 |
| 1441 | | 1580.6871 | And um- | 1581.3808 |
| 1442 | PRV_int_01 | 1582.5879 | And your father would be there | 1583.7666 |
| 1444 | | 1583.9985 | about how old? | 1584.7180 |
| 1446 | | 1585.0209 | Since he was young. | 1586.0197 |
| 1447 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1586.0055 | Uh- yeah, let me see. | 1587.2030 |
| 1448 | | 1588.8719 | Daddy was younger than twelve when- when grandpa was doing this. | 1592.0528 |
| 1449 | PRV_int_01 | 1592.1144 | Okay. | 1592.5072 |
| 1450 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1592.5782 | Yep. | 1592.8670 |
| 1451 | PRV_int_01 | 1593.4709 | And he would wait for him on the train. | 1594.7773 |
| 1452 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1595.0566 | On the tracks, yeah l- yep. | 1596.1689 |
| 1454 | | 1596.3961 | Yep. | 1596.6091 |
| 1456 | | 1597.6694 | He knew what time to, um, to go wait for him | 1599.8685 |
| 1458 | | 1601.3311 | and um, | 1602.0600 |
| 1460 | | 1604.0481 | so he looked forward to that. | 1605.0421 |
| 1462 | | 1606.1714 | It was exciting. He- | 1606.8341 |
| 1464 | | 1607.2175 | I- I'm- I'm still um, | 1609.1629 |
| 1466 | | 1609.9771 | amazed | 1610.7676 |
| 1468 | | 1611.2578 | of trains too. I would end up working for um, | 1614.2304 |
| 1470 | | 1614.4434 | /RD-WORK-3/. | 1615.2054 |
| 1471 | PRV_int_01 | 1615.3002 | Okay. | 1615.7530 |
| 1472 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1615.9771 | Yeah. | 1616.3747 |
| 1474 | | 1616.5573 | Which was uh, | 1617.4283 |
| 1476 | | 1617.7407 | Chesapeake and Ohio but now they call it the CSX | 1620.3772 |
| 1478 | | 1621.1393 | uh- tr- yep. | 1621.9297 |
| 1479 | PRV_int_01 | 1623.6933 | So you've uh, always had or there's some history of working for the- the- | 1627.8431 |
| 1481 | | 1628.1380 | train system. | 1628.8528 |
| 1482 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1628.8954 | Mm-hm. | 1629.2930 |
| 1484 | | 1629.7975 | [/?/] | 1630.2140 |
| 1485 | PRV_int_01 | 1629.7975 | [Now that-] | 1630.2377 |
| 1486 | | 1630.3797 | could- | 1630.7338 |
| 1488 | | 1631.0140 | so when your | 1631.8139 |
| 1490 | | 1632.6849 | father was | 1633.3002 |
| 1492 | | 1633.8161 | growing up, | 1634.2706 |
| 1494 | | 1634.5356 | you know, waiting for your | 1635.3308 |
| 1496 | | 1636.0862 | uh great- | 1636.6921 |
| 1498 | | 1637.5062 | for your grandfather come home | 1638.7464 |
| 1500 | | 1639.2387 | uh, | 1639.7073 |
| 1502 | | 1641.3620 | were- were they all s- | 1642.3939 |
| 1504 | | 1642.6968 | still living in that house across from [Turner] Prince's [house?] | 1645.6599 |
| 1505 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1644.5855 | [M-] | 1644.8316 |
| 1507 | | 1645.2150 | [Mm-hm.] | 1645.6694 |
| 1508 | | 1645.9534 | [Mm-hm.] | 1646.3652 |
| 1509 | PRV_int_01 | 1645.9771 | [Okay.] | 1646.3747 |
| 1510 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1646.7608 | Yeah. | 1647.0685 |
| 1511 | PRV_int_01 | 1647.2058 | And now did the- did the Prince family, was that always- were they always in that house or did you just | 1651.5227 |
| 1513 | | 1651.8351 | d- was there a different family? | 1653.1253 |
| 1514 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1653.5797 | Uh, | 1654.1383 |
| 1516 | | 1655.0234 | th- there was a different family. | 1656.3204 |
| 1517 | PRV_int_01 | 1656.3724 | Okay. | 1656.7180 |
| 1518 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1656.7464 | Um, <ts> | 1657.7357 |
| 1520 | | 1658.6350 | /RD-NAME-5/ I think | 1660.8861 |
| 1521 | PRV_int_01 | 1661.3453 | [Okay.] | 1661.6009 |
| 1522 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1661.5157 | [was] his name. | 1662.3346 |
| 1523 | | 1663.0399 | They would stay there when I was a kid, but I- but I knew that there- that was the history of the man that had founded [Princeville.] | 1668.9215 |
| 1524 | PRV_int_01 | 1668.5476 | [Okay.] | 1668.9405 |
| 1525 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1669.0730 | [That was-] | 1669.5132 |
| 1526 | PRV_int_01 | 1669.0730 | [You knew that?] | 1669.5842 |
| 1527 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1669.6978 | The legacy was- | 1670.4173 |
| 1529 | | 1670.5214 | t- it was attached to [that, yeah.] | 1671.8969 |
| 1530 | PRV_int_01 | 1671.4661 | [Alright.] | 1671.8117 |
| 1531 | | 1672.3655 | Th- that's the other thing talking to different people. How- how aware were you at that | 1676.2942 |
| 1533 | | 1676.5451 | point /?/ | 1677.1415 |
| 1535 | | 1677.3525 | back in those times and when you were real young, | 1679.5015 |
| 1537 | | 1680.6943 | how aware were people of the history [/around/?] | 1683.2045 |
| 1538 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1682.5214 | [Of the history?] | 1683.1084 |
| 1539 | | 1683.6839 | Well in our house, he had uh, | 1685.8470 |
| 1541 | | 1686.9026 | couple of matriarchs there. | 1688.3037 |
| 1543 | | 1688.9644 | Aunt /RD-NAME-2/, | 1689.7596 |
| 1544 | PRV_int_01 | 1689.8448 | Uh-huh. | 1690.2140 |
| 1545 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1690.5879 | who was the oldest | 1691.5204 |
| 1547 | | 1692.0695 | of 'em- | 1692.7748 |
| 1549 | | 1693.2197 | of my aunts, | 1694.1191 |
| 1550 | PRV_int_01 | 1694.2374 | Mm-hm. | 1694.5404 |
| 1551 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1694.7486 | and she um- | 1696.2093 |
| 1553 | | 1697.1465 | she loved to sit around. She and- and my /RD-NAME-1/, her mother, | 1700.2706 |
| 1554 | PRV_int_01 | 1700.3321 | Mm-hm. | 1700.7013 |
| 1555 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1700.7561 | and we'd sit on the porch and just listen | 1703.3974 |
| 1557 | | 1704.2399 | to the story. | 1704.8411 |
| 1559 | | 1705.1061 | I got some pictures, me and uh- | 1706.8622 |
| 1561 | | 1707.1300 | they out in the- | 1708.1051 |
| 1563 | | 1708.3087 | in the car- | 1708.8435 |
| 1564 | PRV_int_01 | 1709.0045 | Okay. | 1709.3974 |
| 1565 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1709.4920 | of me s- | 1710.2872 |
| 1567 | | 1710.8458 | in a diaper. I guess I'm about | 1712.4836 |
| 1569 | | 1714.4554 | five years old, | 1715.7855 |
| 1571 | | 1716.0364 | see my grandm- | 1716.7417 |
| 1573 | | 1717.6126 | /RD-NAME-1/, | 1718.3274 |
| 1575 | | 1719.0610 | to me, was white. | 1719.9868 |
| 1576 | PRV_int_01 | 1720.4885 | Really? | 1720.7867 |
| 1577 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1721.0092 | Yeah. | 1721.4447 |
| 1578 | PRV_int_01 | 1721.5725 | Okay. | 1721.9275 |
| 1579 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1721.8565 | Blue eyes, silver blue hair. | 1723.2150 |
| 1580 | PRV_int_01 | 1723.2623 | Wow. | 1723.5605 |
| 1581 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1723.9108 | And uh, and we are standing- /RD-NAME-2/ is standing next to her. | 1727.4542 |
| 1583 | | 1728.4624 | He's sitting and I'm standing, and I think I got a lollipop | 1730.9285 |
| 1585 | | 1731.1064 | in my mouth. | 1731.6767 |
| 1586 | PRV_int_01 | 1731.6081 | Uh-huh. | 1731.9679 |
| 1587 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1732.2329 | And she's got her arm around me. | 1733.6766 |
| 1589 | | 1734.0506 | But um, | 1734.9073 |
| 1591 | | 1735.7641 | she- she used to- | 1736.7297 |
| 1593 | | 1737.1584 | used to tell us | 1737.9158 |
| 1595 | | 1739.2412 | some stories | 1740.2088 |
| 1597 | | 1741.0351 | in uh- on the front porch. | 1743.1415 |
| 1598 | PRV_int_01 | 1743.4377 | Mm-hm. | 1743.7359 |
| 1599 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1743.7880 | We had a grape vine | 1745.0424 |
| 1601 | | 1745.3832 | on- on both ends of the porch. | 1746.9310 |
| 1602 | PRV_int_01 | 1746.9831 | Uh-huh. | 1747.3191 |
| 1603 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1747.3759 | One- one end of the porch was screened in. | 1749.4188 |
| 1605 | | 1749.7738 | We had two swings. | 1750.8151 |
| 1607 | | 1751.3406 | And she would um, | 1752.7606 |
| 1609 | | 1753.8114 | sit us in the swing with her | 1755.3261 |
| 1611 | | 1755.7265 | and she would | 1756.2803 |
| 1613 | | 1756.6163 | just | 1756.9240 |
| 1615 | | 1757.2838 | rock | 1757.6577 |
| 1617 | | 1757.9654 | the swing with us gently and- | 1759.2387 |
| 1618 | PRV_int_01 | 1759.3049 | Mm-hm. | 1759.6315 |
| 1619 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1759.5747 | and tell- and | 1760.2611 |
| 1620 | | 1760.4031 | tell how- about- you know, when she was growing up. | 1762.0578 |
| 1621 | PRV_int_01 | 1762.0957 | Mm-hm. | 1762.4507 |
| 1622 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1762.6637 | Now her mom would come out of um, | 1764.6517 |
| 1624 | | 1766.0197 | a little place called Lawrence's. | 1767.5987 |
| 1625 | PRV_int_01 | 1768.1525 | Okay. | 1768.3607 |
| 1626 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1768.5501 | /RD-NAME-2/. | 1769.1702 |
| 1627 | PRV_int_01 | 1769.5867 | Okay. | 1769.9133 |
| 1628 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1769.9370 | /RD-NAME-1/- | 1770.4337 |
| 1630 | | 1770.7653 | /RD-NAME-1/ uh, /RD-NAME-2/. | 1772.3652 |
| 1631 | PRV_int_01 | 1772.5120 | Okay. | 1772.9048 |
| 1632 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1773.0184 | Yep. | 1773.4113 |
| 1634 | | 1774.0436 | And that's what she was, a /RD-NAME-2/ before she married um, | 1776.5050 |
| 1636 | | 1777.6457 | grandpa. | 1778.3084 |
| 1637 | PRV_int_01 | 1778.5289 | Okay. | 1778.8792 |
| 1638 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1779.7217 | Yeah. | 1780.2945 |
| 1640 | | 1781.5110 | Can you imagine, man, what it was like for her? | 1783.5227 |
| 1642 | | 1784.0575 | You know, now | 1784.6634 |
| 1644 | | 1785.0732 | granddaddy was as dark as that book case. | 1787.7808 |
| 1645 | PRV_int_01 | 1787.8802 | Okay. | 1788.2636 |
| 1646 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1788.4955 | But he was smart. He was a business man. | 1790.3037 |
| 1647 | PRV_int_01 | 1790.2800 | Uh-huh. | 1790.6303 |
| 1648 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1790.5120 | Cause he was buying real estate | 1791.8685 |
| 1649 | | 1792.4601 | uh, with his money that he was making from the [railroad.] | 1794.4908 |
| 1650 | PRV_int_01 | 1794.2872 | [Mm-hm.] | 1794.8789 |
| 1651 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1794.9689 | And for him to um, | 1796.2043 |
| 1653 | | 1796.6634 | have married | 1797.3924 |
| 1655 | | 1798.2282 | t- um, /RD-NAME-1/ | 1799.7808 |
| 1657 | | 1801.0635 | and to move in Princeville, | 1803.0042 |
| 1658 | PRV_int_01 | 1803.3052 | Mm-hm. | 1803.8259 |
| 1660 | | 1804.2897 | [Wow.] | 1804.5785 |
| 1661 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1804.4175 | [<ts>] | 1804.5217 |
| 1662 | | 1804.8388 | can imagine- | 1805.5488 |
| 1664 | | 1805.7902 | [<laugh>] | 1806.6139 |
| 1665 | PRV_int_01 | 1805.8044 | [Naw, I can't.] | 1806.5902 |
| 1666 | | 1806.7748 | [<laugh> Wow (laughing).] | 1808.2232 |
| 1667 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1806.8127 | [<laugh>] | 1808.3889 |
| 1668 | PRV_int_01 | 1808.7202 | That's uh- | 1809.6223 |
| 1669 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1809.7691 | Yeah. | 1810.2945 |
| 1670 | PRV_int_01 | 1810.9240 | Wow that musta been | 1812.0966 |
| 1672 | | 1813.7499 | amazing. | 1814.3274 |
| 1673 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1814.5688 | Yep. | 1814.8149 |
| 1675 | | 1816.1714 | Yeah next time you- when you come back | 1817.6009 |
| 1677 | | 1817.7997 | um, | 1818.3298 |
| 1679 | | 1819.0257 | uh, with your camera, I'll have all s- s- | 1821.3052 |
| 1681 | | 1821.7596 | these pictures for you to see. | 1822.8767 |
| 1682 | PRV_int_01 | 1823.0140 | Definitely. | 1823.5407 |
| 1683 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1823.6056 | [Yeah.] | 1823.9417 |
| 1684 | PRV_int_01 | 1823.6530 | [In fact] I'd love to see [those.] | 1824.9594 |
| 1685 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1824.5855 | [Yeah.] | 1824.9736 |
| 1686 | PRV_int_01 | 1825.1535 | I'd love to see those. | 1826.0433 |
| 1688 | | 1827.2484 | [So you-] | 1827.6555 |
| 1689 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1827.2815 | [B-] | 1827.6602 |
| 1690 | PRV_int_01 | 1828.7347 | do you- | 1829.1418 |
| 1692 | | 1829.6435 | now, | 1829.9985 |
| 1694 | | 1830.6801 | maybe we should get | 1831.4659 |
| 1696 | | 1831.6931 | straight to- to beginning. | 1833.3288 |
| 1697 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1833.4330 | Mm-hm. | 1833.8779 |
| 1698 | PRV_int_01 | 1833.9111 | For you, you were born | 1835.3358 |
| 1700 | | 1836.2494 | uh, in that house on- on Main Street. | 1838.7513 |
| 1701 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1838.7439 | Right. | 1839.1983 |
| 1702 | | 1839.3714 | Uh-huh. | 1839.7738 |
| 1703 | PRV_int_01 | 1839.8164 | Um, | 1840.3655 |
| 1705 | | 1840.8341 | what- | 1841.0518 |
| 1707 | | 1841.3264 | what | 1841.5583 |
| 1709 | | 1841.8802 | year- what [was the date?] | 1842.8079 |
| 1710 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1842.1831 | [February-] | 1842.7985 |
| 1711 | | 1842.9594 | February thirteenth, nineteen forty. | 1844.8764 |
| 1712 | PRV_int_01 | 1845.0022 | Okay. | 1845.4188 |
| 1713 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1845.6555 | [Yep.] | 1846.1477 |
| 1714 | PRV_int_01 | 1845.9868 | [Okay.] | 1846.3465 |
| 1715 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1846.7725 | And um, | 1847.8281 |
| 1717 | | 1848.3630 | a legendary | 1849.3428 |
| 1719 | | 1849.6457 | doctor- | 1850.1096 |
| 1721 | | 1850.8839 | Doctor /RD-NAME-6/. | 1852.9808 |
| 1722 | PRV_int_01 | 1853.1607 | Yes. | 1853.6104 |
| 1723 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1853.8612 | would assist. | 1854.6281 |
| 1724 | PRV_int_01 | 1855.1109 | Okay. | 1855.5321 |
| 1725 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1855.9013 | And uh, | 1856.6776 |
| 1727 | | 1857.6413 | my mama told me, she say, and they would name me for- | 1860.4860 |
| 1729 | | 1861.0825 | for- for doctor- | 1861.9487 |
| 1731 | | 1862.3084 | doc- doctor [/RD-NAME-2/.] | 1863.5000 |
| 1732 | PRV_int_01 | 1862.3084 | [Really?] | 1862.6729 |
| 1734 | | 1863.3099 | [Oh] I didn't [know that.] | 1864.2187 |
| 1735 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1863.8732 | [/RD-NAME-2/-] /RD-NAME-2, yeah. | 1864.9003 |
| 1736 | PRV_int_01 | 1864.8530 | Yeah. | 1865.1654 |
| 1737 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1865.3074 | Yeah. | 1865.6151 |
| 1738 | PRV_int_01 | 1865.6908 | Okay. | 1866.1878 |
| 1739 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1866.6139 | And um- | 1867.5984 |
| 1740 | PRV_int_01 | 1867.5747 | Yeah they just did a- I saw a piece in the paper on- on | 1870.4601 |
| 1741 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1870.6873 | On [him?] | 1871.0566 |
| 1742 | PRV_int_01 | 1870.8246 | [Doctor] Quigless. | 1871.7808 |
| 1743 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1871.6766 | Yep. | 1871.9086 |
| 1744 | | 1873.0541 | Yep. | 1873.6552 |
| 1746 | | 1874.4173 | And um, | 1875.3734 |
| 1748 | | 1877.2364 | like I say, | 1877.7192 |
| 1750 | | 1878.1689 | I was born the year of the flood, | 1879.9913 |
| 1752 | | 1880.2232 | and they had a flood in nineteen forty. | 1881.9679 |
| 1753 | PRV_int_01 | 1882.1241 | Oh really? | 1882.5643 |
| 1754 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1882.8435 | That I don't remember | 1884.4150 |
| 1756 | | 1884.8837 | being so young | 1885.7451 |
| 1757 | PRV_int_01 | 1885.7688 | Mm-hm. | 1886.0859 |
| 1758 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1886.2090 | but I remember another one in forty- | 1888.7725 |
| 1760 | | 1889.9275 | forty six or forty f- | 1891.9203 |
| 1762 | | 1892.5668 | I think I had just started school. | 1894.2329 |
| 1764 | | 1897.7357 | Then they said the next one here is in fifty eight. | 1899.9016 |
| 1765 | PRV_int_01 | 1900.2424 | Mm-hm. | 1900.5974 |
| 1766 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1900.5879 | But that was a smaller one, | 1902.3118 |
| 1767 | PRV_int_01 | 1902.5476 | Okay. | 1902.9917 |
| 1768 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1904.2280 | which would cause us to move out here. | 1905.8401 |
| 1769 | PRV_int_01 | 1906.1903 | Oh really? | 1906.6542 |
| 1770 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1906.6873 | Yeah in the forties. | 1907.5583 |
| 1771 | PRV_int_01 | 1907.6340 | Oh [wow.] | 1908.0648 |
| 1772 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1907.8186 | [Yeah], yeah. | 1908.4813 |
| 1773 | PRV_int_01 | 1908.8032 | So it was- it was bad enough that you had to move? | 1911.3336 |
| 1774 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1911.3572 | Yeah it came- it came up to the house- | 1913.3216 |
| 1776 | | 1913.8802 | to the- | 1914.2068 |
| 1778 | | 1914.4340 | to the porch | 1915.1298 |
| 1780 | | 1915.3570 | and maybe | 1916.3226 |
| 1782 | | 1916.6330 | where the back | 1917.3620 |
| 1784 | | 1918.1099 | y- back | 1918.7583 |
| 1786 | | 1918.9619 | uh, kitchen parts | 1920.1310 |
| 1788 | | 1920.6612 | sort of declined. | 1921.8729 |
| 1789 | PRV_int_01 | 1922.0386 | Mm. | 1922.2800 |
| 1790 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1922.2564 | I think it came up in there a little bit. | 1923.9016 |
| 1791 | PRV_int_01 | 1923.9395 | Okay. | 1924.3323 |
| 1792 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1924.3655 | Yep. | 1924.6021 |
| 1794 | | 1924.7299 | I remember um, | 1925.6814 |
| 1796 | | 1926.5144 | us pushing you know, with the brooms and shovels getting the- the s- the- the silt | 1931.1323 |
| 1798 | | 1931.6482 | and the mud out of it. | 1932.7227 |
| 1799 | PRV_int_01 | 1932.9925 | Hm. | 1933.2671 |
| 1800 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1933.5653 | Yep. | 1934.0102 |
| 1801 | PRV_int_01 | 1934.1759 | And you were about six or seven? | 1935.5000 |
| 1802 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1935.6555 | Mm-hm. | 1936.0436 |
| 1803 | PRV_int_01 | 1936.1383 | Okay. | 1936.4649 |
| 1804 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1936.5785 | Yep. | 1936.7773 |
| 1805 | PRV_int_01 | 1937.3595 | What was uh- so that was one of your first memories | 1939.7410 |
| 1807 | | 1939.9439 | of growing up in- | 1940.8670 |
| 1808 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1940.8480 | Yeah, | 1941.1746 |
| 1809 | | 1941.3383 | and uh, | 1942.0199 |
| 1811 | | 1942.4980 | getting on uh- getting on the boat. | 1944.3535 |
| 1813 | | 1944.8079 | But prior to that flood, | 1946.1428 |
| 1815 | | 1946.5072 | I remember my uncle /RD-NAME-1/, | 1948.2329 |
| 1817 | | 1948.5595 | which was the baby boy, | 1949.6672 |
| 1818 | PRV_int_01 | 1949.8186 | Mm-hm. | 1950.1405 |
| 1819 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1950.5665 | um, | 1951.1819 |
| 1821 | | 1951.6931 | going off | 1952.9738 |
| 1823 | | 1953.2152 | or was he coming in from, um, | 1955.3453 |
| 1825 | | 1956.0884 | World War Two. | 1956.9310 |
| 1826 | PRV_int_01 | 1957.3949 | [Okay.] | 1957.9203 |
| 1827 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1957.7593 | [He] was sick. | 1958.4883 |
| 1828 | | 1958.6756 | Yeah, I think he had malaria. He had caught that in Iwo Jima or either the Philippine Islands. | 1962.9073 |
| 1830 | | 1963.2907 | I remember them bringing him home. | 1964.6634 |
| 1831 | PRV_int_01 | 1964.8886 | [Mkay.] | 1965.3004 |
| 1832 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1965.1632 | [So I] musta been around about- I hadn't started school then. | 1967.3548 |
| 1833 | | 1968.0458 | But I remember that. | 1969.1393 |
| 1835 | | 1969.8067 | And uh, | 1970.4646 |
| 1837 | | 1971.3620 | oh and /RD-NAME-2/ I had some- | 1972.6873 |
| 1839 | | 1973.6056 | some- | 1974.0458 |
| 1841 | | 1974.5429 | some vivid | 1975.2008 |
| 1843 | | 1976.1002 | incidents | 1976.9569 |
| 1845 | | 1978.2945 | um, | 1978.9098 |
| 1847 | | 1979.5062 | back in the day /that I-/ | 1980.3440 |
| 1849 | | 1980.5286 | I remember my first dog, | 1981.7493 |
| 1850 | PRV_int_01 | 1982.2090 | Okay. | 1982.4883 |
| 1851 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1982.4220 | Snowball. | 1983.2693 |
| 1852 | PRV_int_01 | 1983.2910 | <laugh> | 1983.6365 |
| 1853 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1984.1004 | Pure white Eskimo Spitz, | 1985.7003 |
| 1854 | PRV_int_01 | 1985.7950 | Okay. | 1986.2020 |
| 1855 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1986.3109 | and I used to lay down on the ground with him, | 1988.5120 |
| 1857 | | 1989.1206 | and then in the backyard, we had this big yard, | 1991.3595 |
| 1859 | | 1992.4292 | no grass, | 1993.4327 |
| 1861 | | 1994.3747 | and the ground was as hard as concrete. | 1996.4838 |
| 1862 | PRV_int_01 | 1996.6542 | Okay. | 1997.0234 |
| 1863 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1997.1465 | And we used to sweep it | 1998.1310 |
| 1865 | | 1998.3724 | with the | 1998.9878 |
| 1867 | | 1999.1819 | brush brooms. | 2000.1854 |
| 1869 | | 2001.4330 | And it would look neat | 2002.6163 |
| 1871 | | 2003.0045 | a- | 2003.2364 |
| 1873 | | 2003.5015 | uh, once you cl- you know, got it | 2005.3712 |
| 1875 | | 2005.9629 | cleaned and neat. | 2006.6445 |
| 1877 | | 2007.1253 | And um, | 2007.9111 |
| 1879 | | 2008.6353 | I used to lay on that | 2009.8707 |
| 1881 | | 2010.0884 | ground and look at that dog, look him in his eyes and | 2013.6413 |
| 1883 | | 2014.4128 | he'd look me right in mine and | 2016.0648 |
| 1885 | | 2017.0967 | then I would draw him. | 2018.5688 |
| 1887 | | 2018.9928 | I would draw on this ground. | 2020.3749 |
| 1888 | PRV_int_01 | 2020.4649 | Mm-hm. | 2020.9098 |
| 1889 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2021.4068 | That's how I would- I learned to- | 2022.9547 |
| 1891 | | 2023.4327 | to draw- you know, my- my skills of art. | 2025.0232 |
| 1892 | PRV_int_01 | 2025.3146 | Okay. | 2025.7785 |
| 1893 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2025.8732 | And um, | 2026.7820 |
| 1895 | | 2027.8896 | <ts> | 2027.9701 |
| 1897 | | 2028.5807 | the- and I'm shooting marbles right in that same ground. | 2031.4283 |
| 1898 | PRV_int_01 | 2031.5608 | Wow. | 2031.9253 |
| 1899 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2032.1335 | Now grass grew | 2033.2270 |
| 1901 | | 2033.7760 | on the side | 2034.9452 |
| 1903 | | 2035.5747 | of the yard, | 2036.2090 |
| 1905 | | 2036.5356 | but not- | 2037.0468 |
| 1907 | | 2037.5987 | that was our play area. | 2038.8530 |
| 1908 | PRV_int_01 | 2039.0802 | Uh-huh. | 2039.3879 |
| 1909 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2039.9322 | And | 2040.3630 |
| 1911 | | 2040.7748 | I used to be so mischievous [man.] | 2042.9758 |
| 1912 | PRV_int_01 | 2042.8176 | [<laugh>] | 2043.4803 |
| 1913 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2044.3371 | I recall | 2045.2554 |
| 1915 | | 2045.4021 | um, | 2045.9512 |
| 1917 | | 2047.0588 | after so many close incidents, | 2048.9048 |
| 1918 | PRV_int_01 | 2048.9880 | Uh-huh. | 2049.3525 |
| 1919 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2049.9584 | with death, | 2050.5974 |
| 1920 | PRV_int_01 | 2050.9098 | Yep. | 2051.1323 |
| 1921 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2051.5867 | my mama and them, they got a chain, | 2053.4327 |
| 1923 | | 2054.6634 | a dog chain, | 2055.6791 |
| 1924 | PRV_int_01 | 2055.9489 | Okay. | 2056.3655 |
| 1925 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2057.2222 | and put it around my waist. | 2058.8269 |
| 1926 | PRV_int_01 | 2059.5369 | Really. | 2059.8682 |
| 1927 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2060.1806 | Yeah. | 2060.6824 |
| 1929 | | 2060.9880 | And uh, | 2061.7123 |
| 1931 | | 2063.8328 | today that would be looked upon | 2065.4517 |
| 1933 | | 2066.0339 | as abuse. | 2066.7439 |
| 1934 | PRV_int_01 | 2067.0306 | Mm. | 2067.3099 |
| 1935 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2067.5466 | But to me, | 2068.2140 |
| 1937 | | 2068.7489 | that wont nothing but love. | 2069.9559 |
| 1938 | PRV_int_01 | 2070.0316 | Yeah. | 2070.3677 |
| 1939 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2070.5050 | Cause I was- | 2071.2387 |
| 1941 | | 2071.9108 | I was into it. | 2072.9285 |
| 1942 | PRV_int_01 | 2073.2531 | Hm. | 2073.4519 |
| 1943 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2073.5797 | I was | 2073.8827 |
| 1945 | | 2074.0957 | not | 2074.4838 |
| 1947 | | 2075.3406 | a bad kid, just inquisitive. | 2077.2576 |
| 1948 | PRV_int_01 | 2077.3097 | Yeah. | 2077.6789 |
| 1949 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2077.9629 | Uh, | 2078.3033 |
| 1951 | | 2078.4580 | she- mama, she used to say, | 2079.7217 |
| 1953 | | 2080.1525 | at three and four years old, you used to cross that railroad track, used to walk out the back, | 2085.8117 |
| 1954 | PRV_int_01 | 2086.0436 | Mm. | 2086.2803 |
| 1955 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2086.6921 | down by that pecan tree, | 2088.1642 |
| 1956 | PRV_int_01 | 2088.1878 | Uh-huh. | 2088.5902 |
| 1957 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2088.5760 | through the garden, | 2089.2765 |
| 1958 | PRV_int_01 | 2089.3712 | Right. | 2089.6789 |
| 1959 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2089.9250 | to go see her mom, | 2090.8954 |
| 1960 | PRV_int_01 | 2090.9360 | Mm-hm. | 2091.3525 |
| 1961 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2091.8637 | which lived across the railroad track. | 2093.5867 |
| 1963 | | 2093.9985 | And she said she used to see this red head | 2095.9392 |
| 1965 | | 2096.9806 | going | 2097.5480 |
| 1967 | | 2098.4601 | and um, | 2099.1938 |
| 1969 | | 2099.9938 | she would hear mama- | 2101.1582 |
| 1971 | | 2101.3523 | /RD-NAME-4/ her mama- | 2102.4315 |
| 1973 | | 2102.6871 | would holler back, | 2103.5000 |
| 1975 | | 2103.8543 | I got him. | 2104.4933 |
| 1976 | PRV_int_01 | 2104.6116 | Mm-hm. | 2104.9003 |
| 1977 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2105.5015 | And I would sh- /unintelligible/. | 2107.2292 |
| 1979 | | 2107.5605 | I was always telling 'em, | 2108.3632 |
| 1981 | | 2108.6094 | I wanted to go see Ma /RD-NAME-3/. | 2109.9347 |
| 1982 | PRV_int_01 | 2110.0957 | [Mm.] | 2110.3939 |
| 1983 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2110.1809 | [I wanna] go see Ma /RD-NAME-3/. | 2110.9950 |
| 1984 | PRV_int_01 | 2111.0613 | Mm. | 2111.3264 |
| 1985 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2111.6293 | But she w- | 2112.2210 |
| 1987 | | 2112.4198 | man, but um, | 2113.3239 |
| 1989 | | 2113.9960 | <ts> | 2114.1854 |
| 1991 | | 2115.2436 | i- it was too much for mama. | 2116.7205 |
| 1992 | PRV_int_01 | 2117.1276 | Yeah. | 2117.3595 |
| 1993 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2117.3784 | She said she couldn't take it | 2118.4340 |
| 1995 | | 2118.8032 | cause | 2119.0967 |
| 1997 | | 2119.3570 | one of us- I think my baby- younger brother had got hitten by a car, | 2123.0566 |
| 1999 | | 2123.7571 | going across the street | 2125.0351 |
| 2001 | | 2126.0007 | to Mr. /RD-NAME-1/ house | 2127.2362 |
| 2002 | PRV_int_01 | 2127.5087 | Oh. | 2127.7217 |
| 2003 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2127.6034 | where /RD-NAME-3/ | 2128.4791 |
| 2004 | PRV_int_01 | 2128.7631 | [Wow.] | 2129.1134 |
| 2005 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2128.8435 | [/RD-NAME-2/] stay. | 2129.5820 |
| 2006 | | 2130.3393 | And um, | 2131.1251 |
| 2008 | | 2131.7546 | so that's when uh, the chain | 2133.4377 |
| 2010 | | 2134.4885 | came in | 2135.2506 |
| 2012 | | 2135.7571 | in the play- and uh- | 2136.8363 |
| 2014 | | 2137.6599 | it- it- | 2138.1664 |
| 2016 | | 2138.5498 | it was long enough for me to- and she put it around that big pecan tree. | 2141.7429 |
| 2017 | PRV_int_01 | 2141.9228 | Hm. | 2142.3014 |
| 2018 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2142.3961 | And I'd be just as- | 2143.3144 |
| 2020 | | 2143.4895 | I'm'a tell you. I know what the deal was. | 2145.5000 |
| 2022 | | 2146.0957 | /??/ This ain't no abuse. | 2147.4636 |
| 2024 | | 2147.7997 | This is life saving. | 2149.2576 |
| 2025 | PRV_int_01 | 2149.2765 | Yeah. | 2149.5179 |
| 2026 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2149.7499 | Yeah cause- | 2150.2706 |
| 2027 | PRV_int_01 | 2150.6046 | Now did your brother- You said your brother was hit by a car? | 2153.0518 |
| 2028 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2153.1938 | Yeah /RD-NAME-1/. | 2153.6766 |
| 2030 | | 2154.3677 | Yeah, he- there- it was four of us. | 2156.3084 |
| 2031 | PRV_int_01 | 2156.4410 | Uh-huh. | 2156.7392 |
| 2032 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2156.7987 | And the third boy | 2157.7501 |
| 2034 | | 2157.9205 | uh, /RD-NAME-1/ he would be hit by uh, | 2159.8612 |
| 2036 | | 2160.2494 | a car. | 2160.6896 |
| 2038 | | 2161.2860 | And um- | 2162.0623 |
| 2039 | PRV_int_01 | 2162.1380 | But he didn't- | 2162.8433 |
| 2040 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2163.0874 | No, n- didn't /hurt/ him, just a little [bump on the] head. | 2164.9477 |
| 2041 | PRV_int_01 | 2164.4838 | [Oh.] | 2164.7915 |
| 2042 | | 2165.0282 | Oh. | 2165.2696 |
| 2043 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2165.1938 | By that time, it wa- they was using a- them | 2166.6754 |
| 2044 | | 2166.8647 | A model or T model Fords. | 2168.4504 |
| 2045 | PRV_int_01 | 2168.5120 | Really. | 2168.7534 |
| 2046 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2168.8318 | And they kind of high, | 2169.7549 |
| 2047 | PRV_int_01 | 2169.8874 | Okay. | 2170.2140 |
| 2048 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2170.3134 | and so uh- and they weren't g- the man wasn't going that [fast.] | 2173.1771 |
| 2049 | PRV_int_01 | 2172.9641 | [Oh.] | 2173.2197 |
| 2050 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2174.0055 | And um- | 2174.6492 |
| 2051 | PRV_int_01 | 2175.1584 | That was enough to get everybody- | 2176.5453 |
| 2052 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2176.8435 | Yeah get every- get everybody upset. | 2178.3578 |
| 2053 | PRV_int_01 | 2178.7322 | Yeah. | 2179.0541 |
| 2054 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2179.0399 | Yep. | 2179.2907 |
| 2055 | | 2180.0291 | And we had a- a gentleman here in town by the name of Mr. /RD-NAME-2/ | 2183.5441 |
| 2056 | PRV_int_01 | 2183.6340 | Mm-hm. | 2183.9938 |
| 2057 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2184.5902 | who wore three or four hats. | 2186.2327 |
| 2059 | | 2186.9616 | He was | 2187.7090 |
| 2061 | | 2188.7299 | the police chief, | 2189.6828 |
| 2063 | | 2190.5618 | he was electrician, | 2191.7309 |
| 2065 | | 2192.7060 | he was everybody's daddy, | 2194.4459 |
| 2066 | PRV_int_01 | 2194.5217 | Okay (laughing). | 2195.1891 |
| 2067 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2195.3074 | he- and he and my daddy were pretty tight too. | 2197.3002 |
| 2069 | | 2197.7593 | And he had horses. | 2198.8717 |
| 2070 | PRV_int_01 | 2198.9218 | Uh-huh. | 2199.2105 |
| 2071 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2199.2531 | So he would- | 2199.9300 |
| 2073 | | 2200.6968 | /RD-NAME-2/ was just- he was our hero. | 2203.1014 |
| 2074 | PRV_int_01 | 2203.1629 | Mm-hm. | 2203.5747 |
| 2075 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2204.0055 | But I remember one day | 2205.3241 |
| 2077 | | 2207.1938 | I- | 2207.7003 |
| 2079 | | 2208.2872 | his daughter /RD-NAME-3/, | 2210.0812 |
| 2080 | PRV_int_01 | 2210.1380 | Mm-hm. | 2210.4457 |
| 2081 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2210.3964 | and /RD-NAME-4/ who happened to stay | 2212.5075 |
| 2082 | | 2212.9998 | in Mr. /RD-NAME-2/'s house, | 2214.2825 |
| 2083 | PRV_int_01 | 2214.4955 | Mm-hm. | 2214.9357 |
| 2084 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2215.1393 | we were standing on the sidewalk- | 2217.2930 |
| 2086 | | 2217.7691 | Would you believe we had sidewalk? | 2219.0660 |
| 2087 | PRV_int_01 | 2219.3358 | Mm- Okay. | 2220.0032 |
| 2088 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2219.9748 | Back in the [forties?] | 2220.8269 |
| 2089 | PRV_int_01 | 2220.6896 | [Mm-hm.] Wow. | 2221.3049 |
| 2090 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2221.4611 | And um, | 2222.2374 |
| 2092 | | 2222.4078 | looking at him | 2223.3288 |
| 2094 | | 2223.6649 | and my daddy work this- | 2225.0045 |
| 2096 | | 2225.3690 | pull these lines up, | 2226.3535 |
| 2098 | | 2226.6091 | [running] these- these electric wires. | 2228.1712 |
| 2099 | PRV_int_01 | 2226.6091 | [Mm.] | 2226.9310 |
| 2100 | | 2228.3936 | Mm-hm. | 2228.7960 |
| 2101 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2229.9489 | And along came this- | 2231.3690 |
| 2103 | | 2233.6268 | was it a bus or a truck? | 2235.0448 |
| 2105 | | 2235.7075 | Anyway, | 2236.2424 |
| 2107 | | 2238.0364 | daddy had to cut | 2239.1819 |
| 2109 | | 2240.2895 | the wire because it didn't seem like that guy was gonna stop. | 2242.8388 |
| 2110 | PRV_int_01 | 2243.1228 | Yeah. | 2243.3784 |
| 2111 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2244.1026 | And when he cut it just in time, | 2245.8777 |
| 2113 | | 2246.4126 | it wrapped around that car- | 2248.0531 |
| 2115 | | 2248.6116 | the car's wheel, | 2249.4447 |
| 2117 | | 2249.7476 | and we were standing on it- | 2250.9310 |
| 2119 | | 2251.5037 | on the line, on the sidewalk. | 2252.6303 |
| 2120 | PRV_int_01 | 2252.9691 | Wow. | 2253.2578 |
| 2121 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2253.3194 | And it would pick us up | 2254.2992 |
| 2123 | | 2254.9619 | and | 2255.2980 |
| 2125 | | 2255.5867 | throw us. | 2256.1689 |
| 2126 | PRV_int_01 | 2256.6375 | Uh- | 2256.8505 |
| 2127 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2256.9973 | /RD-NAME-3/ went under the car. | 2258.7439 |
| 2129 | | 2259.0685 | I don't know what happened to /RD-NAME-4/, but I would be- I would land | 2262.1121 |
| 2131 | | 2262.9405 | on the front porch of my Uncle /RD-NAME-1/'s house | 2265.0658 |
| 2133 | | 2265.3714 | in the swing. | 2266.0199 |
| 2134 | PRV_int_01 | 2266.4791 | Wow. | 2266.9193 |
| 2135 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2267.0187 | And I remember this like it was yesterday. I was um, | 2269.4517 |
| 2137 | | 2270.3195 | /druggy/ man and it just hurting, | 2272.4459 |
| 2139 | | 2272.7820 | and he didn't know | 2273.5536 |
| 2141 | | 2274.3251 | what to do cause they- but he just picked me up, | 2276.2848 |
| 2142 | PRV_int_01 | 2276.4836 | Mm. | 2276.7013 |
| 2143 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2276.6729 | and when he did, | 2277.3545 |
| 2144 | | 2277.6318 | I- one of my bones, | 2278.9477 |
| 2146 | | 2279.9322 | rib bones was cracked. | 2281.1393 |
| 2147 | PRV_int_01 | 2281.6221 | Uh-oh. | 2282.0149 |
| 2148 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2282.0244 | And uh, | 2282.8575 |
| 2150 | | 2283.3525 | he came around the back | 2284.3418 |
| 2152 | | 2284.8104 | and | 2285.2175 |
| 2154 | | 2285.3690 | put- | 2285.5867 |
| 2156 | | 2285.9654 | told us /about/ a pump- just to pump water. | 2287.6315 |
| 2157 | PRV_int_01 | 2287.9771 | Uh-huh. | 2288.2611 |
| 2158 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2288.1948 | A little hand pumps. | 2289.0989 |
| 2159 | | 2289.4898 | And I remember that coming down on face, and I- j- I thought he was tryna drown me. | 2293.0919 |
| 2160 | PRV_int_01 | 2293.0967 | <laugh> | 2293.6505 |
| 2161 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2293.6457 | But anyway, | 2294.1570 |
| 2162 | | 2294.9454 | Daddy come running around and, where's /RD-NAME-2/? And they- and just- s- Uncle /RD-NAME-1/ say, | 2298.8269 |
| 2164 | | 2299.2339 | we got to get him to the hospital, say he's bleeding. | 2301.0942 |
| 2165 | PRV_int_01 | 2301.1632 | Mm. | 2301.4188 |
| 2166 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2301.8685 | And um, | 2302.7962 |
| 2168 | | 2303.2554 | at that time, | 2304.0695 |
| 2170 | | 2305.3949 | Doctor /RD-NAME-2/ didn't have an emergency room, | 2307.5000 |
| 2171 | PRV_int_01 | 2307.5819 | Mm. | 2307.9275 |
| 2172 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2308.6328 | and | 2309.2576 |
| 2174 | | 2309.4848 | Edgecombe General | 2310.5498 |
| 2176 | | 2311.6385 | was downtown. | 2312.4763 |
| 2177 | PRV_int_01 | 2312.5453 | Mm-hm. | 2313.0849 |
| 2178 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2313.2648 | And at that time, black folks | 2314.7322 |
| 2180 | | 2315.5794 | weren't um, | 2316.8196 |
| 2182 | | 2318.9544 | allowed to come through an emergency situation. You had- | 2321.3996 |
| 2184 | | 2322.0007 | they had to look at you first and get your name [and your birthday.] You could be bleeding out your head. | 2326.1736 |
| 2185 | PRV_int_01 | 2324.1166 | [Mm.] | 2324.5000 |
| 2186 | | 2326.1973 | Mm. | 2326.5949 |
| 2187 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2326.9262 | And uh, | 2327.6173 |
| 2189 | | 2328.6871 | but daddy you know, broke on in there, | 2330.7461 |
| 2190 | PRV_int_01 | 2330.9997 | [Mm-hm.] | 2331.2837 |
| 2191 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2331.2033 | [and uh], had a few harsh words. He tell 'em, say, we need a doctor around here- We ain't got time to go through none of that- | 2336.1592 |
| 2192 | | 2336.9165 | that | 2337.0849 |
| 2194 | | 2337.3263 | ism. | 2337.6671 |
| 2195 | PRV_int_01 | 2337.7476 | [Right! <laugh>] | 2340.2563 |
| 2196 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2337.7665 | [<laugh>] | 2339.6788 |
| 2197 | | 2340.3037 | And uh, | 2341.0042 |
| 2198 | PRV_int_01 | 2341.0137 | Yeah. | 2341.4492 |
| 2199 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2341.5486 | that would be my first encounter uh, in the emergency room. [Yeah.] | 2344.5570 |
| 2200 | PRV_int_01 | 2344.2162 | [Okay.] | 2344.5618 |
| 2201 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2344.8647 | Yep. | 2345.1487 |
| 2203 | | 2345.4753 | O- over- you know- and in a hospital- /within/ a hospital | 2347.8136 |
| 2205 | | 2348.0077 | as many close shaves | 2349.9606 |
| 2206 | PRV_int_01 | 2350.2304 | Mm. | 2350.6517 |
| 2207 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2350.6091 | I would get myself into. | 2352.1948 |
| 2208 | | 2352.7817 | But over all, man, my uh- my life's | 2354.9354 |
| 2210 | | 2355.5109 | growing up here in Princeville | 2357.1392 |
| 2212 | | 2357.8682 | was just | 2358.7155 |
| 2214 | | 2359.9462 | like a paradise. | 2360.8408 |
| 2215 | PRV_int_01 | 2360.9808 | Really? | 2361.3879 |
| 2216 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2361.4825 | Yep, we were poor, | 2362.6328 |
| 2217 | PRV_int_01 | 2362.8884 | Uh-huh. | 2363.3144 |
| 2218 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2363.4800 | didn't know it, | 2364.0859 |
| 2220 | | 2364.8433 | didn't care about it, | 2365.7900 |
| 2221 | PRV_int_01 | 2365.9130 | Okay. | 2366.3958 |
| 2222 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2366.3059 | wont worried about it. | 2367.1816 |
| 2223 | PRV_int_01 | 2367.3027 | Okay. | 2367.7097 |
| 2224 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2367.7997 | Yeah. | 2368.2115 |
| 2226 | | 2368.4056 | Christmas time come, | 2370.0055 |
| 2228 | | 2370.5877 | I thought I had something if I had | 2372.3769 |
| 2230 | | 2372.9354 | a orange | 2373.7902 |
| 2232 | | 2374.1641 | and uh, | 2375.0351 |
| 2234 | | 2375.7782 | some | 2376.2753 |
| 2236 | | 2376.5356 | grapes or raisins and an apple | 2378.7792 |
| 2237 | PRV_int_01 | 2378.9118 | Mm. | 2379.1485 |
| 2238 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2379.1275 | and one toy. | 2379.9133 |
| 2239 | PRV_int_01 | 2380.4576 | Really. | 2380.7322 |
| 2240 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2380.7274 | I was | 2381.1487 |
| 2241 | | 2381.3475 | tickled to death. | 2381.9250 |
| 2242 | PRV_int_01 | 2381.9676 | Mm-hm. | 2382.4930 |
| 2243 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2382.6445 | Yep. | 2382.8669 |
| 2245 | | 2383.5107 | And uh, | 2384.3154 |
| 2247 | | 2385.6245 | but the Christmas tree, | 2386.7416 |
| 2249 | | 2386.9168 | I will never forget /RD-NAME-2/ the baby girl | 2389.2645 |
| 2251 | | 2389.9888 | uncle- aunt, | 2390.8313 |
| 2252 | PRV_int_01 | 2390.9855 | Yeah. | 2391.3689 |
| 2253 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2391.4541 | she- it was her job to um- | 2393.8256 |
| 2255 | | 2395.0989 | to make the snow | 2395.9462 |
| 2256 | PRV_int_01 | 2396.7272 | Okay (laughing). | 2397.1579 |
| 2257 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2397.8849 | The fake snow? | 2398.6943 |
| 2258 | PRV_int_01 | 2398.7085 | Uh-huh. | 2399.0446 |
| 2259 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2399.1014 | And we- we get us the tree out of the woods, a cedar tree. | 2402.2396 |
| 2260 | PRV_int_01 | 2402.4384 | Uh-huh. | 2402.7698 |
| 2261 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2403.0565 | And uh, | 2403.7713 |
| 2263 | | 2404.8458 | she used to get us on the floor, | 2406.3321 |
| 2265 | | 2406.6871 | uh, all the kids, me and my brothers, | 2409.0727 |
| 2267 | | 2409.7571 | and cut these rings out of n- of paper, | 2412.3936 |
| 2268 | PRV_int_01 | 2412.5877 | Mm-hm. | 2412.9521 |
| 2269 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2413.6338 | a- about a half an inch | 2414.8834 |
| 2271 | | 2415.4683 | wide and maybe | 2416.6564 |
| 2273 | | 2416.9736 | three inches long, | 2417.9487 |
| 2274 | PRV_int_01 | 2418.0007 | Mm. | 2418.2516 |
| 2275 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2418.3652 | and we would use um, | 2419.8894 |
| 2277 | | 2420.7110 | this old white s- stick, | 2422.3109 |
| 2279 | | 2422.4766 | glue, to make these chains | 2424.1427 |
| 2280 | PRV_int_01 | 2424.3605 | Mm-hm. | 2424.7107 |
| 2281 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2424.8433 | and loop 'em. | 2425.3923 |
| 2283 | | 2425.6385 | But before we did that, we would | 2426.6846 |
| 2285 | | 2426.9808 | use crayon and color 'em different colors. | 2428.9357 |
| 2286 | PRV_int_01 | 2429.0635 | Mkay. | 2429.4516 |
| 2287 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2429.4942 | These would be the Christmas loops, the Christmas chains | 2432.1686 |
| 2288 | PRV_int_01 | 2432.3769 | [Right.] | 2432.5757 |
| 2289 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2432.4763 | [around] the /?/. | 2433.3189 |
| 2290 | | 2433.6813 | And then I remember one- one Christmas, she got fancy with us. | 2436.6019 |
| 2292 | | 2437.0421 | She had us sewing | 2438.2870 |
| 2294 | | 2438.5568 | popcorn, | 2439.1295 |
| 2295 | PRV_int_01 | 2439.4021 | Okay. | 2439.7287 |
| 2296 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2439.8565 | put popcorn on a- [you know, and] | 2441.2339 |
| 2297 | PRV_int_01 | 2440.7416 | [Uh-huh.] | 2441.2102 |
| 2298 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2442.0244 | and uh, the angel hair | 2443.5770 |
| 2300 | | 2445.2317 | and those big | 2446.3677 |
| 2302 | | 2447.5037 | light- Christmas light bulb about the size of an egg. | 2450.4337 |
| 2303 | PRV_int_01 | 2450.6041 | Oh okay. | 2451.0538 |
| 2304 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2451.0613 | Those were the ones, man. | 2452.6138 |
| 2305 | PRV_int_01 | 2452.7038 | Yeah. | 2453.1487 |
| 2306 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2453.1440 | You remember? You don't know nothing about that. | 2454.3699 |
| 2307 | PRV_int_01 | 2454.4636 | Christmas light bulb? | 2455.3014 |
| 2308 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2455.4008 | The big ones. | 2456.0597 |
| 2309 | PRV_int_01 | 2456.0919 | The real big ones. | 2456.8635 |
| 2310 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2456.9013 | Yeah, them big ones (laughing)- | 2457.5214 |
| 2311 | PRV_int_01 | 2457.5167 | Yeah yeah. I remember those- [<laugh>] | 2459.4148 |
| 2312 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2458.5296 | [<laugh>] | 2458.9604 |
| 2313 | | 2459.8550 | Yeah. | 2460.3094 |
| 2315 | | 2460.6719 | They were on a- | 2461.6138 |
| 2317 | | 2462.6173 | on a big big | 2463.7581 |
| 2319 | | 2463.8764 | wire, | 2464.4065 |
| 2320 | PRV_int_01 | 2464.5486 | Uh-huh. | 2465.0645 |
| 2321 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2465.1450 | but you talking about something pretty. | 2466.8707 |
| 2322 | PRV_int_01 | 2467.2730 | Yeah. | 2467.5381 |
| 2323 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2467.5949 | Man that would just- just- | 2468.6410 |
| 2325 | | 2468.8729 | just- just did something to me. And I would- I be looking for 'em now. Say I wish I could find | 2472.8517 |
| 2326 | PRV_int_01 | 2472.9511 | Mm-hm. | 2473.2730 |
| 2327 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2473.2777 | some of them big bulbs. | 2474.4895 |
| 2328 | PRV_int_01 | 2474.5368 | <laugh> | 2475.6539 |
| 2329 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2475.6918 | Yeah. | 2476.2361 |
| 2330 | PRV_int_01 | 2476.6811 | Wow. | 2477.0408 |
| 2332 | | 2477.1686 | It sounds like you got a lot of memories. | 2479.0458 |
| 2334 | | 2479.1878 | /Seems like you do./ | 2480.0540 |
| 2335 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2480.2102 | Oh yeah. | 2480.8777 |
| 2336 | PRV_int_01 | 2482.6054 | Now you uh, | 2483.5331 |
| 2338 | | 2484.6340 | s- | 2484.8044 |
| 2340 | | 2485.0458 | you were right there on Main Street til | 2486.7167 |
| 2342 | | 2486.9392 | you were about six. What do you remember | 2488.7994 |
| 2344 | | 2489.4148 | about | 2489.8881 |
| 2346 | | 2490.5062 | that downtown | 2491.4860 |
| 2348 | | 2491.8694 | or Main Street area? What- what did it look like back then? | 2494.5202 |
| 2349 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2495.2633 | Well we had uh- | 2496.5251 |
| 2351 | | 2497.2635 | it- it was a nice neighborhood, ha- had houses um, close together, nice front yards | 2502.2431 |
| 2353 | | 2502.9227 | with hedges | 2503.6233 |
| 2355 | | 2504.2860 | and crepe myrtle. We had a crepe myrtle tree- we had two crepe myrtle trees in the front yard. I used to | 2508.4873 |
| 2357 | | 2508.6482 | climb up. | 2509.1405 |
| 2358 | PRV_int_01 | 2509.4434 | Mm-hm. | 2509.8126 |
| 2359 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2509.7842 | And used to carve um, | 2511.4693 |
| 2360 | | 2511.8480 | my name | 2512.5959 |
| 2361 | PRV_int_01 | 2513.2396 | <laugh> | 2513.3911 |
| 2362 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2513.6467 | on 'em | 2514.1485 |
| 2364 | | 2514.5346 | and then we had a mulberry, a | 2516.4232 |
| 2366 | | 2516.5842 | big mulberry tree that sat on the line, which was right- | 2519.5994 |
| 2368 | | 2520.1512 | it divided the- the property line of uh, | 2522.3522 |
| 2370 | | 2522.7924 | /RD-NAME-6/. | 2523.8575 |
| 2372 | | 2524.1604 | The /RD-NAME-2/'s and our [house.] | 2525.6656 |
| 2373 | PRV_int_01 | 2525.3560 | [Okay.] | 2525.7062 |
| 2374 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2526.4778 | And um, | 2527.3298 |
| 2376 | | 2528.5889 | I remember eating those- | 2529.7344 |
| 2378 | | 2529.9095 | those dark | 2530.6811 |
| 2380 | | 2530.9414 | purple | 2531.4526 |
| 2382 | | 2532.1133 | juicy uh- berries man. | 2533.7748 |
| 2383 | PRV_int_01 | 2533.8410 | Mm-hm. | 2534.1960 |
| 2384 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2534.9155 | And then in the back we had | 2536.3119 |
| 2386 | | 2536.4492 | two cherry trees that was on the line and we used to go back there and uh, | 2540.0730 |
| 2388 | | 2541.3510 | go up the cherry tree and just | 2542.6716 |
| 2390 | | 2543.6159 | stay up in the cherry tree and eat til we get sick. | 2545.9210 |
| 2391 | PRV_int_01 | 2546.1699 | Uh-huh. | 2546.4208 |
| 2392 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2546.4350 | Just eat them big black cherries or- | 2548.2006 |
| 2394 | | 2548.5414 | Yep. | 2548.7686 |
| 2395 | PRV_int_01 | 2548.8632 | <laugh> | 2549.1425 |
| 2396 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2549.1662 | And the plums | 2550.2265 |
| 2398 | | 2550.8276 | uh, yeah, that grew wild on- on the- | 2553.2681 |
| 2400 | | 2553.4053 | you know, in the woods, | 2554.3804 |
| 2401 | PRV_int_01 | 2554.4798 | Mm-hm. | 2554.8632 |
| 2402 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2554.8396 | the yellow sugar plum and then you had the red one. | 2557.2110 |
| 2403 | | 2557.8717 | And then the blackberries. | 2559.0929 |
| 2405 | | 2560.1769 | But um, | 2560.9816 |
| 2407 | | 2561.8052 | what I- what I really remember | 2563.2063 |
| 2409 | | 2564.6527 | most of all was going to school. My first days going to [school] | 2567.4034 |
| 2410 | PRV_int_01 | 2567.3082 | [Oh] really? | 2567.8147 |
| 2411 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2567.8194 | in Princeville. | 2568.5815 |
| 2412 | PRV_int_01 | 2568.6335 | Okay. | 2569.1684 |
| 2413 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2569.2773 | Yep. | 2569.6370 |
| 2414 | PRV_int_01 | 2569.8575 | [/inaudible/] | 2570.8468 |
| 2415 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2570.2599 | [All of my] buddies um, | 2571.5568 |
| 2416 | | 2572.3189 | <ts> we would go there together. | 2573.4360 |
| 2418 | | 2574.2549 | My first grade teacher was named Miss /RD-NAME-2/. | 2576.3498 |
| 2419 | PRV_int_01 | 2576.6243 | Okay. | 2577.0882 |
| 2420 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2577.3485 | And come to find out, she would teach my mom. | 2579.3129 |
| 2421 | PRV_int_01 | 2579.4502 | Really? | 2579.7105 |
| 2422 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2579.8573 | Yeah. | 2580.1791 |
| 2423 | PRV_int_01 | 2580.2785 | Okay. | 2580.6477 |
| 2424 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2580.7472 | And um, | 2581.7033 |
| 2426 | | 2582.6859 | then Miss /RD-NAME-3/ which was Mr. /RD-NAME-2/'s wife, she taught second grade. | 2586.6430 |
| 2427 | PRV_int_01 | 2586.6761 | Okay. | 2587.2205 |
| 2428 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2587.5640 | And Miss /RD-NAME-2/, | 2588.9557 |
| 2429 | PRV_int_01 | 2589.3911 | Okay. | 2589.8033 |
| 2430 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2590.0917 | third grade. Miss /RD-NAME-2/ had a reputation | 2592.0277 |
| 2432 | | 2592.8513 | of uh, | 2593.4477 |
| 2434 | | 2593.6066 | being the baddest teacher. | 2594.8941 |
| 2436 | | 2595.3959 | She would beat you | 2596.3946 |
| 2438 | | 2597.5117 | um- | 2598.0797 |
| 2440 | | 2599.7459 | The other teachers- if the other teachers uh- couldn't- uh, didn't want to beat you, | 2603.1615 |
| 2442 | | 2603.5165 | they send you to Miss /RD-NAME-2/. Miss /RD-NAME-2/ act like she would be waiting- | 2606.2795 |
| 2443 | PRV_int_01 | 2606.6480 | Mm. | 2606.8610 |
| 2444 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2607.3438 | waiting for the opportunity to get on somebody's case. | 2610.0466 |
| 2446 | | 2610.5389 | [<laugh>] | 2610.8797 |
| 2447 | PRV_int_01 | 2610.5578 | [Yeah.] | 2610.8513 |
| 2448 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2611.3341 | And then the fourth grade teachers was Mrs. /RD-NAME-2/. | 2613.3249 |
| 2450 | | 2614.6408 | And that's as- | 2615.2135 |
| 2452 | | 2615.3745 | that's as high as Princeville would go. | 2617.2252 |
| 2453 | PRV_int_01 | 2617.4761 | Okay. | 2617.8737 |
| 2454 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2617.8480 | And then from there we would go over | 2619.6231 |
| 2455 | | 2620.3994 | to um, | 2621.2656 |
| 2457 | | 2621.4029 | /RD-SCHOOL-3/ Elementary which was Miss /RD-NAME-2/ would be the fifth grade teacher. | 2624.6430 |
| 2458 | PRV_int_01 | 2624.6433 | Okay. | 2625.0598 |
| 2459 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2625.1213 | Yeah. | 2625.4243 |
| 2460 | PRV_int_01 | 2625.6894 | Now /RD-SCHOOL-3/ was- | 2626.7875 |
| 2462 | | 2627.0384 | was uh- | 2627.5733 |
| 2463 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2627.9377 | /RD-SCHOOL-7/. | 2628.8844 |
| 2464 | PRV_int_01 | 2628.9460 | That was | 2629.2300 |
| 2466 | | 2629.4646 | a- still a segregated school. | 2630.9793 |
| 2467 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2631.1261 | [Uh-huh.] | 2631.5095 |
| 2468 | PRV_int_01 | 2631.3343 | [At that] [time.] | 2632.0538 |
| 2469 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2631.6515 | [Segregated] s- Mm-hm. | 2632.6218 |
| 2470 | PRV_int_01 | 2632.7733 | And how far- did that go all the way up to high school at the [time?] | 2635.0832 |
| 2471 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2634.6383 | [Y- Mm-hm.] | 2635.2820 |
| 2472 | PRV_int_01 | 2635.6776 | What was it [like] /??/? | 2636.7569 |
| 2473 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2636.0895 | [Yeah.] | 2636.3356 |
| 2474 | | 2636.8279 | That was great man. | 2637.9923 |
| 2475 | PRV_int_01 | 2638.1580 | Yeah? | 2638.4704 |
| 2476 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2638.5224 | Yep. | 2638.9011 |
| 2478 | | 2639.9141 | The years uh, was it forty nine and fifty? | 2643.2917 |
| 2480 | | 2644.8254 | And um, | 2645.8289 |
| 2482 | | 2648.7143 | I would meet | 2649.5521 |
| 2484 | | 2650.8443 | <ts> | 2650.9958 |
| 2486 | | 2651.4549 | our music teacher, Mrs /RD-NAME-2/. | 2653.9731 |
| 2487 | PRV_int_01 | 2654.1510 | Okay. | 2654.5249 |
| 2488 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2655.5852 | She would | 2656.1674 |
| 2490 | | 2656.3473 | detect the tenor- | 2657.5875 |
| 2492 | | 2658.5294 | the vocal tr- you know, talent that I had. | 2660.3119 |
| 2493 | PRV_int_01 | 2660.3119 | /Alright/. Okay. | 2661.0172 |
| 2494 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2661.4385 | Plus I had already been singing in my first church over here that I would join which was Macedonia Baptist. | 2666.7711 |
| 2495 | PRV_int_01 | 2666.9036 | Uh-huh. | 2667.2491 |
| 2496 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2667.3391 | Which set in a cow pasture. | 2668.7638 |
| 2497 | PRV_int_01 | 2669.1425 | Okay. | 2669.6064 |
| 2498 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2669.7389 | Uh, | 2670.3022 |
| 2500 | | 2670.6809 | right there where /RD-NAME-1/'s- I think when you came- soon as you crossed the railroad track, | 2674.4562 |
| 2501 | PRV_int_01 | 2674.6313 | Mm-hm. | 2675.0052 |
| 2502 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2675.5922 | well, | 2675.9898 |
| 2504 | | 2676.1839 | just to the right, | 2677.0738 |
| 2506 | | 2677.3199 | where you see /RD-NAME-1/'s um, | 2678.9036 |
| 2508 | | 2679.6799 | <ts> | 2680.0728 |
| 2510 | | 2680.9106 | what is it- hazardous material? | 2682.3022 |
| 2511 | PRV_int_01 | 2682.2407 | Mm-hm. [Mm-hm.] | 2682.9034 |
| 2512 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2682.8087 | [That's] where Macedonia Baptist Church used to be. | 2685.0001 |
| 2513 | PRV_int_01 | 2684.9793 | Okay. | 2685.3485 |
| 2514 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2685.4385 | And it was this um, | 2686.7875 |
| 2516 | | 2687.2230 | bull out there that we used to | 2688.8418 |
| 2518 | | 2689.4572 | have fun with | 2690.3498 |
| 2519 | PRV_int_01 | 2690.5723 | <laugh> | 2690.8059 |
| 2520 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2690.9320 | during /my/ mischievous times, you [know.] | 2693.2041 |
| 2521 | PRV_int_01 | 2693.0526 | [<laugh>] | 2693.8383 |
| 2522 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2693.9898 | But um, | 2695.0690 |
| 2524 | | 2697.9686 | that uh- | 2698.7828 |
| 2526 | | 2700.6335 | Miss /RD-NAME-2/ uh, | 2701.6702 |
| 2528 | | 2702.4350 | she would- she would- she would see that | 2704.3568 |
| 2530 | | 2704.7307 | that little boy can sing a little bit. | 2706.2927 |
| 2531 | PRV_int_01 | 2706.6430 | Mm-hm. | 2707.0596 |
| 2532 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2707.0832 | And uh r- | 2707.7459 |
| 2534 | | 2708.3261 | just bring me along and I'd get in the choir | 2710.4136 |
| 2536 | | 2711.2514 | at /RD-SCHOOL-3/ | 2711.8762 |
| 2537 | PRV_int_01 | 2712.2170 | Uh-huh. | 2712.5625 |
| 2538 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2712.7850 | and | 2713.2300 |
| 2540 | | 2713.9285 | I think they got some pictures- | 2715.7509 |
| 2542 | | 2716.1106 | somebody's got some pictures of me in the choir, | 2718.2833 |
| 2543 | PRV_int_01 | 2718.5673 | Mm-hm. | 2718.8986 |
| 2544 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2719.5972 | but um, | 2720.3829 |
| 2546 | | 2721.3722 | and we would- they would travel. | 2722.5745 |
| 2548 | | 2723.2514 | My older brother /RD-NAME-2/ was also in the choir. He sang [too.] | 2726.7001 |
| 2549 | PRV_int_01 | 2726.5344 | [Okay.] | 2727.0077 |
| 2550 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 2727.0361 | Yep. | 2727.3154 |
| 2552 | | 2727.7036 | So we got our singing | 2728.9011 |
| 2554 | | 2729.2798 | from mom, | 2730.0087 |
| 2556 | | 2730.5389 | and then I would | 2731.4078 |
| 2558 | | 2731.7960 | find out I was athletic- um, -ly | 2734.5177 |
| 2560 | | 2734.8064 | inclined too, physically. | 2736.2975 |